Nokia E50

[Pathik]

I m goin to take it in a week..
I need some feedback from someone who has used this fone properly ....
Pls post if u know of any problems wit this fone...
Pls dont suggest any other fones... i hav done a lot of R&D and i know this is good for me cos i desperately need a os9.1 and cant afford more than 10k..
Doubts:
Does it hav a really small font???
Is its video recording quality (qcif) extremely bad???
Do videos play properly on it or is there any lag?? or low frame rates??
Does it hav low battery life??

[gxsaurav]

Contact andy, He is using this phone.

QCIF means 174X144 pixel recording which is meant to be used for MMS etc. Don't expect quality with it. My K750i records video ar 127X144 pixel with 128kbps video bitrate & AMR narrowband audio, while W810i records at 256kbps video bitrate.

& for flaunting's sake , get the black model. The white one looks ugly. E50 is a productive phone, not meant to be sleek but even then black is better then White model.

[gmanog]

yes pathiks, font is very small. but you will get used to it. (its really small font, difficult for the people in the age group of 40s and above to read).

Video recording is bad, but for the purpose of this phone is not that. You know it.

Videos meant for mobile phones plays well, but divx files in the original resolution will not play properly.

Battery Life Low? No. you are not correct. It has a good battery life. about 8 hrs of talk time.

(I am using it for the past 20 days or so)

[Pathik]

@ gx yea i know that... ny idea abt the low frame rates wen playing video rumor???
btw wats the price difference btw the camera version and the non camera one...
@gmanog so divx avi files wont play good???
and is the font really toooooo small or just normally small ??

[gxsaurav]

@ gx yea i know that... ny idea abt the low frame rates wen playing video rumor???
@gmanog so divx avi files wont play good???
and is the font really toooooo small or just normally small ??

1) Video playback is supported at 24fps max. While recordings are captured at 15fps.

2) You better make sure, if possible ask andy or use the phone yourself & must check out weather it supports MP4 Videos or not.
For video playback in mobile phone, stay away from DivX, it will drain the battery like hell. Convert the video to mp4 file with 320X240 pixel resolution & 196kbps bitrate, along with 64kbps audio & 24fps. For E50 this should be enough. Actully this is the setting I use with my phone.

Do check video bitrate of 256kbps, with rest of the setting as above. it might work. Andy has a E50, where is he?

btw wats the price difference btw the camera version and the non camera one...

hmm...a very tough question. i think the difference is the camera.

The font is small indeed, atleast for my taste, Like I said, you better use it for 5 mins or so to check weather it is good for you or not.

[Pathik]

arey i asked for the price diff gx...
and i dont care abt the battery... i jus want to play divx decently in it like i do in my qd...
and yea mp4 works wit it... but i like divx/xvid a lot more than mp4...

[gmanog]

divx avi files will play, but it has to be ripped for the mobile, the files ripped for PC and TV will not play propery. (it will have a slag).

I didnt come across a E50 without Camera.

Font is small. for the first time users and people who got slight eye problems its tooooo small. If you use it for some time, you will get used to it. I like the clear display. I think its because of this small font and small screen, when compared to the N72 and N70.
I have installed lot of applications and tried, it works well. (one problem, some apllications take time to open, I think this problem will be there in all the mobiles)

[gxsaurav]

DivX is good for Computer or TV, but not for mobile phone.

Check one thing. Weather is playes 320X240 pixel video in full screenmode

Nokia E50 device details

here is the list of codecs in S60

The phone has nice features. Lets see, the same features + 2 mp camera + sleek looks = N72

Even with the same features, Nokia should make it a bit sleek

[aku]

u can alwayz go for smartmovie.. it has its own divx codecs.. adn can play div x vids prty well

[gxsaurav]

as far as i know, smart movie converts the video again before copying to mobile phone. Well, if you have to do conversion anyway, then better convert to mp4 which is meant to be played on phones at Low bitrate

[Pathik]

dude i know all dat.... smartmovie can play divx/xvid/avi/mp4/ blah blah... jus askin if there s a problem playin video in e50... nd pls dont give fone suggestions gx...
and i know wat formats nokia fones can play wit/without codecs... pls answer the main questn....

[gxsaurav]

Oh...k, send andy a PM cos I have not played a video in E50 myself so far.

Normal 3gp video will playback fine.

[Pathik]

@gx i m addicted to xvid avi... optimised for cell fones... i dont prefer mp4...
so ll xvid videos play @ a decent frame rate of arnd 24fps or 15 only(same as video recording)???

[gxsaurav]

Ok, then Xvid\DivX it is for u

about fps
15fps = yes
24fps = maybe
30fps = no way, it's not N series. Frames will skip

[kalpik]

I think video playback is just fine (in smartmovie).. It has a 220 Mhz processor, same as N70/N72.. So the phone IS powerful.. Dunno about video recording.. The font is small though.. But the screen looks great, its a very good buy so go for it!

[Pathik]

I dont care if the cam isnt that good.. Just that it shd play high bitrate movies fine.. Btw kalpik r u using the mono headfones or u took new stereo ones?? And 4 how much did u get ur e50? Wit a cam or without??

[kalpik]

Heh.. I have an N70 But my friend has an E50, therefore i know it plays videos just fine.. And dont buy nokia sterio headphones.. Instead buy the normal earphone adaptor, and use it with some good earphone (even 200-300 Rs sony ones sound great!).. My friend got it for around 10.3k a week back.. And E50 is with cam only!

[gmanog]

pathiks, you can buy e50, its a good phone. for video play back the screen too small buddy. if you are particular about video playback pls chose someother phone with big screen.

[gcbeldar]

Hello to All,

I am tried Nokia 3250(wonderful, size an weight with i cannot compromise), 5300(quit good, but not a symbion OS), SE550 (battary & ringtone sound is low) and last SE750(good in all aspect even is camera very good but, i like symbion OS) nothing satisfied me execept Nokia E50 in all aspects execpt font size and speed (i am concluded that the price what i paid worth, I am unaffordable N73-master piece).

I have contacted many web sites regarding font size. I hope this problem will be resolved by nokia.

Ok so you've decided on E50 finally. About video playback, i think E50 has enough processing power to play videos sufficiently smoothly. Even my qd plays avi files in smartmovie smoothly. I don't know why E50 wouldn't. So don't worry. Go for it. And i don't think the non-camera version is available in India. And oh, go for the black one. And afterwards write a review when you get it.

[Pathik]

yea i ll go 4 the black one only... And i know its proccy is more than twice as powerful as qd(remember i hv a qd too? ) but i hav seen many users complain abt the video playback..

[gxsaurav]

The video playback can be atributed to the codecs. Remember, a normal DivX video found on computer will not play when copied to the phone even in smartmovie. U will need to convert it using smartmovie convertar for PC.

About the font issue, try using it yourself & then check.

I say, make it a standerd that all the mobile phone manufacturers must support the cleartype font face in there mobile phone such as SegoeUI & Deja vu sans

[gmanog]

I have tried playing a divx file ripped for mobile (Dvx player and smart movie) its working fine. If the screen size is ok with you, you can get it. Over all, its a very good phone. Value for money.
I got the black one, black one is the good looking one. Silver color I didnt like.
reminding you, the back portion of the phone is Metal, not plastic.
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Hi i am posting this message from my e50 mobile, sitting in court, this one is almost working like a computer.

[gxsaurav]

Hey, i just used both E50 & Nokia 6300 today. Still finding out whether we can install applications in it or not. Even if we can, I guess they won't be comparable to Symbian OS.

Nokia E50 does have small fonts, tooo small from my point of view. It did had problem while playing 256kbps mp4 video with 24fps at 320X240. iI encoded a video from Constantine movie just for this purpose. The frames were skipping so I guess 196 kbps will run fine in it.

[Pathik]

@gx e50 is s60v3 os9.1.. So it obviously supports apps.. 6300 is s40v2 so it supports only crappy java apps.. :s

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by pathiks

@gx e50 is s60v3 os9.1.. So it obviously supports apps.. 6300 is s40v2 so it supports only crappy java apps.. :s

I meant "Still finding wether 6300 supports applications".

Since u just mentioned it does not, well...then I guess it is still a nice phone for those who don't want to install applications on there phones like me or SE users, but rather want to use the phone like a phone insted of a Computer. Not everyone wants a phone to watch PDF or .doc files.

With a 2 MP camera, i would compare this phone as Nokia's answer to K550i, now if only I knew the price of K550i . They could have easily made a killer phone if they combine 6300 body & design with Nokia E50 OS & Software inside. A near perfect combination. Here is a comparision of 6300 & K550i

[Pathik]

k550i is 10.6k wit bill... Arnd same as 6300.. But if i were to take a java based fone then i wd rather take a SE than a s40... And 6233 is neday better than 6300.,

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by pathiks

k550i is 10.6k wit bill... Arnd same as 6300.. But if i were to take a java based fone then i wd rather take a SE than a s40... And 6233 is neday better than 6300.,

I hate so rapid growth in technology. i bought my K750i for same price in septembar 2006. Oh well....all I miss is EDGE which is not even available with BSNL .

6233, hmm....nah it's not stylish & a looker. Whats with the low memory/RAM in Nokia phones anyway, atleast E50 has inbuilt 70 MB Memory (RAM).

Did u PMed andy?

[Pathik]

yup i had pmed mail2and but he didnt reply.. Btw e50 has 70mb fone memory not ram.. Its ram is only abt 15-16 mb wich is good enough 4 multi tasking.. btw i checked out w830i tdy.. The build quality is ultra stylish.. But the price is 16.x k.. Rather take a n73..

[gxsaurav]

N73 ME costs more then 20k if i m right?

& Symbian Mobile phones use the phones inbuilt memory as RAM, actully all phones do. This is why I mentioned them as same.