mobile for internet

[torrent08]

hi .. which all features are required for mobile internet browsing.i currently have a nokia 7250 old model, which contins only gprs..
i was looki to buy nokia 6085 which was in range of 6999 rupees but i found that it doesnt have HSCSD, though it has gprs & Edge..will that affect internet browsing speed? also the USB version is v 1.1 not the latest version..i have a limited budget of within 8000 rupees only...
Is tere anyother model with all the InterNEt features .though i liked Sony 750 i, it doesnt have Edge is Edge really provide good speed.??

[Kiran.dks]

Yes. Edge technology increases internet speeds if service provider is giving that option.
Without EDGE, GPRS speed: 5-6KBps
With EDGE, GPRS speed: 10-15KBps

[torrent08]

ok thankyou Kiran for the quick reply..So Edge s a must.

what about HSCSD and other features like Bluetooth version ,
Infraredport,
Internal Memory etc..
does an internal memory of 4 Mb like affect in openi up files in a cell? .is it almost like our rAM in Pcs where less the Ram memory, less the computer works.?

[Pathik]

i wd suggest u to get a 6630... mebbe or a 2nd hand 7710...
in new cells get a z550i...

[Kiran.dks]

You are welcome.
HSCSD will improve data transfer speeds. It is a must for good reception of radio signals. Now-a-days almost all mid-range and high-end mobiles feature this.

Bluetooth comes into play if you wanna connect PC to Mobile and use it for data transfer or Internet surfying. Make sure your set should meet phone meets Bluetooth specification 2.0. That will give good speed data transfers.

Infrared is not useful for internet connectivity. It's only for file transfers between mobiles or PC.

Internal memory do have effect in phone speeds. If you are operating GPRS in phone, then consider atleast 10MB of internal memory.

[Pathik]

internal memory isnt at all related wit ur ram...
ram decides how much u can multitask
int mem decides how much data u can save on ur fone... but thats not a prob if u take a fone wit mmc support

[47shailesh]

but rem'ber tarifs for edge r also high... more speed more u r billed

[Pathik]

edge is at the same rates as gprs in the areas in wich its available in india...

[torrent08]

Originally Posted by pathiks

i wd suggest u to get a 6630... mebbe or a 2nd hand 7710...
in new cells get a z550i...

hi pathiks..thanks for ur suggestions but, both the nok models costs more than 11000 .
well, Sony z550i dont have edge enabled facility.

Then go for SE W300i or Samsung X700

[torrent08]

Originally Posted by Kiran_tech_mania

You are welcome.
HSCSD will improve data transfer speeds. It is a must for good reception of radio signals. Now-a-days almost all mid-range and high-end mobiles feature this.

Bluetooth comes into play if you wanna connect PC to Mobile and use it for data transfer or Internet surfying. Make sure your set should meet phone meets Bluetooth specification 2.0. That will give good speed data transfers.

Infrared is not useful for internet connectivity. It's only for file transfers between mobiles or PC.

Internal memory do have effect in phone speeds. If you are operating GPRS in phone, then consider atleast 10MB of internal memory.

Hi Kiran yes i need a Cell which i will be uisng for data transfer/internet surfing . will be looki for a 10 mb internal memory r more..but i hope it will come below 8000 rupees
"your set should meet phone meets Bluetooth specification 2.0. " u mean the handset shld be bluetooth enabled ver 2.0

[Kiran.dks]

Originally Posted by torrent08

Hi Kiran yes i need a Cell which i will be uisng for data transfer/internet surfing . will be looki for a 10 mb internal memory r more..but i hope it will come below 8000 rupees
"your set should meet phone meets Bluetooth specification 2.0. " u mean the handset shld be bluetooth enabled ver 2.0

Yes.

[torrent08]

Originally Posted by Kiran_tech_mania

Yes.

hi Kiran, so Cld u suggest Cellmodels with all the requestie features that you / i suggested..
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Originally Posted by krazyfrog

Then go for SE W300i or Samsung X700

hey krazyfrog, tats a good suggestion & i reviewed the prices here http://www.univercell.in/compare1.asp?mno=254&mmno=194 a price diff of 200 Rs.
well, overall Sony looks good..i hope there will be emi/finance schemes for cells..But i always i had in min dmy fav band NOKIA , but i know i wnt get it in tat range with the all the 3 features
GPrS , EDGE class 10, HSCSD, Bluetooth, USB ver 2.0 ---wel, is the bluetooth version , latest on ein ths model.?

Or s tere a Nokia model with all the above features..!!
i love NOKias !!!!

First of all you don't need HSCSD if you're connecting to net via GPRS/EDGE. HSCSD is different and GPRS is different. In HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data, a faster version of CSD) the data is transferred through a voice call. The phone dials a specific number (provided by service provides) and then the data transfer takes place. During this you cannot receive/make calls/sms. This method is not used nowadays. Now usually GPRS is used. Thats why you don't need to search for a phone with HSCSD. A phone with GPRS/EDGE Class 10 would be enough for regular net surfing/downloading. Also you can use the data cable to connect to the computer. You don't need to have Bluetooth v2.0. Using data cable is faster and also charges the battery while the phone is connected.
I suggest you go for SE W300i. It has EDGE class 10, bluetooth, and USB 2.0. It also comes with a data cable.
Btw its ok to have favourites but when your budget is low, you have to make compromises. Currently no Nokia phone with your needs comes within your budget.

[Manshahia]

how edge can speed up ?
i mean wat r the new things it includes which help in speeding up the internet speed?

[Kiran.dks]

Originally Posted by krazyfrog

First of all you don't need HSCSD if you're connecting to net via GPRS/EDGE. HSCSD is different and GPRS is different. In HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data, a faster version of CSD) the data is transferred through a voice call. The phone dials a specific number (provided by service provides) and then the data transfer takes place. During this you cannot receive/make calls/sms. This method is not used nowadays. Now usually GPRS is used. Thats why you don't need to search for a phone with HSCSD. A phone with GPRS/EDGE Class 10 would be enough for regular net surfing/downloading. Also you can use the data cable to connect to the computer. You don't need to have Bluetooth v2.0. Using data cable is faster and also charges the battery while the phone is connected.
I suggest you go for SE W300i. It has EDGE class 10, bluetooth, and USB 2.0. It also comes with a data cable.
Btw its ok to have favourites but when your budget is low, you have to make compromises. Currently no Nokia phone with your needs comes within your budget.

Yes. You are right considering one need a internet connectivity without bothering much about the speed and error correction. For a smoother connection, the combo of HSCSD and GPRS works perfect. It is never possible to attain the theoritical maximum speed using GPRS alone. Becoz error correction is not handled by GPRS system. So the bandwidth available for GPRS will be lesser than possible. In absence of HSCSD, GSM will handle the error correction in radio signals. Due to this, major portion of bandwidth is wasted and you get lesser bandwidth for data transfer. This is where HSCSD comes into play. HSCSD provides all possible error corrections thus maintaining enough bandwidth for data transfer.
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Originally Posted by torrent08

hi Kiran, so Cld u suggest Cellmodels with all the requestie features that you / i suggested..

I too suggest what krazyfrog suggested. SE W300i. It is HSCSD and GPRS enabled.

[Tech.Masti]

@torrent08........
Samsung is a good set with big screen, EDGE class 10, BT....etc....
but it's your choice.... some people don't like samsung......
but ur budget is low u have to consider this..... SE W300i i think more than your budget..... and screen is also small in w300i.....
and Nokia 5200 is rs. 500 more than your budget..... if you are a nokia lover u can go 4 it.... it also has EDGE class 10......not sure about BT

[Crazy Kidd]

From my personal experience:


Sony Ericsson good speed.

Nokia good speed.

Motorola good speed. L7 gives the highest speed for me. More than any Nokia or SE phones.

Samsung bad speed.

Rest not sure.

If you want EDGE then stick to Nokia. Because Motorola And SE EDGE phones won't fit your budget. And remember to check if your area has EDGE and also the rate plans for GPRS with EDGE.

[torrent08]

well, i m sersly considering to increase my budget to 10 k or else i will buy Second hand phones. from the grey market..
i find in univercell.in tat the Exchange rate of N70 is 6000 only when the first time rate is a whooping 14 k !! my god!!
but, havent brought such yet & I request members to do write a thread regarding " how to detect Fake mobile phones" like a thread for "fake memory sticks" exists here...

[Stick]

Originally Posted by torrent08

well, i m sersly considering to increase my budget to 10 k or else i will buy Second hand phones. from the grey market..
i find in univercell.in tat the Exchange rate of N70 is 6000 only when the first time rate is a whooping 14 k !! my god!!

Yes and than they will or there partner will sell it for 75% of Mkt. Rate. I think all 2nd Hand Cell Dealer makes more profit compare to selling New One.

Originally Posted by torrent08

I request members to do write a thread regarding " how to detect Fake mobile phones" like a thread for "fake memory sticks" exists here...

There is nothing like FAKE MOBILE PHONE. All Mobile Handset you get is ORIGINAL.

Only Battery-Memory can be fake and phone may have defect (may repaired) if you buy Second Hand/Grey Mkt.

If buy from grey mkt. make sure it should be Company Sealed.
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Nokia 6080 @ Rs.6596/- futurebazaar.com

[torrent08]

ompany Sealed ?? how to check it..!!??? .........also, how to find whether battery memory s weak,,a new battery s so expensive ?
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[Stick]

Nokia 6080 @5500/- have GPRS/EDGE/HSCSD

[Crazy Kidd]

Every new phone comes in boxes and the are either laminated or sealed with sticker. While buying check them and ensure that they are intact.

There is no way to ensure memory card or battery quality in second hand phone. You'll have to rely on the seller. And 2nd hand phones doesn't have company seals.

[sanddy]

frnds NOKIA 6070 also has EDGE ,GPRS & HSCSD, costs about RS 5000, pretty good except for the small memory