Web services like Mail & Messengar on SE phones

[gxsaurav]

I activated GPRS on my BSNL SIM with my K750i. The reason for activating GPRS was not browsing, but it was to check my Yahoo Mail, G-Mail, & Windows Live Mail, along with Yahoo messenger while I m away from computers. I did not go for Windows live Messenger or GTalk with Jabbar compatible clients because I hardly need them while on the move.


To configure your Yahoo Mail in K750i. K790i & other similar SE phones, do the following, the settings should be about the same for other phones such as Nokia or Samsung too

Open Control Panel -> Messaging-> E Mail->Settings

Create a new account Name it “Yahoo” & fill in the following settings
Connect Using = Your GPRS portal, in case of BSNL select “bsnlgprs”
Protocol = Pop3
Incoming server = pop.mail.yahoo.com
Incoming port = 110
Encryption = No
Mailbox = your yahoo ID
Password
Outgoing server = smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Outgoing port = 25
E mail Address = your full mail ID including @yahoo.com
Download = Headers only, this only downloads the subject & name
of the sender, no real mail is downloaded. This saves bandwidth,
as you only open or download the mail which u want.
From name = your name
Signature
Copy outgoing & check interval = off, Check interval determines the
automatic mail checking time, turn it off & do so manually, this
again saves bandwidth & tariff charges.

Now, go to your inbox & click on “send & receive”, it will at max download 10 to 20 kb only, again saving money because you are only downloading headers & not the full mail

To Access G Mail on your Mobile phone, you can thank Google for releasing a JAVA based client for mobile phones. This means just like real G Mail only some text based data is transited & not the full webpage or inbox.
Go to http://gmail.com/app from your mobile phone’s inbuilt browser. This will straight way give u an option to download the G Mail app for mobile, which is 113 KB only, download & install it. Its JAVA based so it will even work with Symbian Phones (Motorola phones have problems though).

After installation, you need to allow the G Mail client access to internet, for this go to

Control panel->Settings->Connectivity tab->Settings for JAVA, & select your GPRS access point, in case of BSNL select “bsnlgprs”

Now go to File manager -> Applications folder-> & Start the G mail client, now just enter your mail id including @gmail.com & password. It’s secure with SSL. U will see your inbox by default. Now right click to open the menu->Go to->Settings & uncheck the option “preload …….” Again, just like yahoo mail in mobile as mentioned above Gmail will only download the headers & not the whole mail. It will download the mail when you open it.

For Google Talk, check out Talkonaut. It is a Jabber client which supports text only chatting with Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, and AIM & Google Talk.

Yahoo messenger in mobile phones.
There are 2 methods, the GPRS one & SMS one, since SMS method is not supported on BSNL, I opted for the GPRS one.

First, go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/ click on Messenger on the left hand sidebar, you will find two options, either SMS or GPRS, depending on what you like, opt for either one of them.

If you are going to use the SMS method, the simplest way is to download the yahoo messenger for SMS client, which is again JAVA based. Transfer it to your mobile phone usually & install it. Now simply enter your yahoo ID & Password, to login. When you receive an IM it will be delivered as a SMS. Another such method is via Yahoo messenger for Windows, in which you can simply “Sign in to mobile device”. This however does not support BSNL yet

If you are like me, opting for the GPRS method, so that you only manually check for messages when you need, then check out this page. Using this method, you can check your messenger simply using GPRS irrespective of the carrier. You just sign in using the yahoo Mobile webpage, & you will show as "I am mobile" in Yahoo Messenger, now when ever u recieve an IM, it will be delievered there. Now here is a catch, you don't need to have GPRS enabled always. Just sign in using the mobile client, you will show as Mobile in Yahoo messenger, now exit the browser, which will close GPRS, but you will still be signed on to Messenger, in case someone messeges u, it will be delievered as offline messege & when you manually sign in again, you will see it in your phone

For Windows Live Mail & Messenger, you can follow this page, it uses GPRS Data so it will work with all the carriers out there. I would really suggest MS (gave feedback already) to release a JAVA based WLM client like the G Mail client for mobile
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just founf out a few new things

If you are willing to pay, you can use QuickIM for logging in to MSN messenger using GPRS in your mobile phone. It features basic chat features, which are good enough for on the go needs

[Pathik]

man.. Knew all of it already except the windows live thing.. 1 more thing try mig33.. www.mig33.com

I'm unable to connect to my yahoo mailbox from my qd. After entering the settings you gave i tried to retrieve the mail. But it asks for my user name and password again and again and finally says 'Connection refused by server. Check username and password'. What am i doing wrong? Also my email id ends in @yahoo.co.in and not in .com

[Pathik]

@krazy r u able to connect to gmail?? Try using profimail

[Kiran.dks]

Install Free Opera Mini. I am able to surf everything on my K750i, including thinkdigit forum without problems. No settings are required. It's all taken care by Opera Mini. Try it.

I don't have a gmail account pathiks. But i'll try using ProfiMail. Kiran i already have Opera Mini installed and yes its great to use.

[Pathik]

opera mini is a browser not a email client

[Kiran.dks]

Originally Posted by pathiks

opera mini is a browser not a email client

Ofcourse Boss! Did anybody said that it is a email client? I was jus mentioning that it is a good browser.

Well i tried through ProfiMail but even there i'm told incorrect id and password even though i entered the correct one. What could be wrong?

[gxsaurav]

mig33 is good, but it needs a gateway system to access your WLM & Yahoo contacts, which again eats extra bandwidth, also mig33 is paid

Originally Posted by krazyfrog

I'm unable to connect to my yahoo mailbox from my qd. After entering the settings you gave i tried to retrieve the mail. But it asks for my user name and password again and again and finally says 'Connection refused by server. Check username and password'. What am i doing wrong? Also my email id ends in @yahoo.co.in and not in .com

First you will need to enable yahoo mails to enable delievery to Mail clients. For this go to your yahoo mail preference->Account info, there set the option to deliever yahoo promotion mails directly to your inbox, now u can access mails in phone. Even my ID ends in .co.in, i don't like .com here

Profimail is good, but I don't think it's for JAVA MIDP2 based phones. It's only for symbian & Windows Mobile phones. This G Mail client is JAVA based so it will work everywhere

Originally Posted by Kiran_tech_mania

Install Free Opera Mini. I am able to surf everything on my K750i, including thinkdigit forum without problems. No settings are required. It's all taken care by Opera Mini. Try it.

Opera mini 3.0 is awsome, with support for SSL & TLS, it has become very good. however, donno why last night i tried surfing my orkut profile using it, logged in fine, but when i wrote a scrap to a friend, it was not delievered . Oh well.....atleast it does the essential jobs.

Edit: Opera mini 3.0 also supports normal wap sites, i just checkd my Windows Live Mails, using Opera mini & Windows Live mail mobile on mobile.live.com

So far, QuickIM is something I m willing to pay for, I wonder why Yahoo or MS doesn't release a such client for mobile phones based on JAVA

Note : Yahoo Go 2.0 beta is also an extremely good service, however it's not available in India yet, & doesn't support Messenger yet, Seems like Yahoo! might relese a Chat client soon, i mean, they can infact.....just provide one with text & emoticon support, thats all what is needed

It should be an ISO Standerd to use Segoe UI on Mobile phones , these current fonts look crap on LCD, Segoe UI with cleartype will rock man

Thanks gx_saurav. Now its working perfectly.

[gxsaurav]

I found an alternative to QuickIM, it's call LiveMSN, same thing as Windows live messenger dektop

[Pathik]

@krazy r u able to use the default mailbox in QD for yahoo/gmail ??

Ya pathiks, default mailbox in qd is also working. I used it only for my yahoo account as i don't have gmail account. Only thing is that the default mailbox only shows text from email and not images, unlike ProfiMail which loads the complete mail.

[Pathik]

r u using any settings wizard or jus the normal mailbox settings????

I just entered the settings given by gx_saurav in Messaging>Settings>E-mail>Mailbox in my qd. No setting wizard.

[blueshift]

I have Airtel connection and w300i mob.

There is no mailbox option. Instead there is username and password for both Incoming and Outgoing servers. Are these the same as my mail address?
Also will I get an SMS alert through this?

Originally Posted by blueshift

I have Airtel connection and w300i mob.

There is no mailbox option. Instead there is username and password for both Incoming and Outgoing servers. Are these the same as my mail address?
Also will I get an SMS alert through this?

Yes the username and password are the same you use for your e-mail account. After you've entered the setting and connected to your mailbox, your phone will download all your mails in the phone. Later whenever you connect to your mailbox through your phone, it'll update the inbox and will show if there are any new mails. You won't get any sms alerts though.

[blueshift]

It is not working. It says wrong mailbox username and pswd.
I read somewhere on the net that pop3 account is only for Yahoo Plus users. Is it?

GMail is working fine.

I think Yahoo charges for using their messenger through mobile.

[Pathik]

No yaar.. Yahoo gives u free pop3 if u hv a .co.in account

Originally Posted by blueshift

It is not working. It says wrong mailbox username and pswd.
I read somewhere on the net that pop3 account is only for Yahoo Plus users. Is it?

GMail is working fine.

I think Yahoo charges for using their messenger through mobile.

Read the 10th post in this thread. That'll solve your problem. I faced the same one.

[Stick]

Don't we need GPRS Service to Enabled to received and send mails, Now Hutch only Charges 10ps per 10KB or something like that (Not Sure), No Monthly Rentals.

[blueshift]

@Stick: Ofcourse we need GPRS for this. Yes Hutch charges 10paise/10kb.

[Pathik]

Man 10ps/10 kb is toooo costly... My dad ll go bankrupt..

[blueshift]

Oh..I have a .com Yahoo account. I think theres no way to convert this to .in account and there will be no other option to access it via mobile coz forwarding too is not supported in .com, is it??

Now I have created a .in account.

For this go to your yahoo mail preference->Account info, there set the option to deliever yahoo promotion mails directly to your inbox, now u can access mails in phone.

Is is not under Account Info. Its POP Access and Forwarding under Mail Options.

Also the outgoing server port is now 587.

You can also configure GMail like this w/o app. Learn more

[Pathik]

yup the outgoing port is 587 n incoming port is blank...

[gxsaurav]

hey anyone able to use POP3 yahoo mail & Gmail app as mentioned in post 1 with airtel prepaid? i took airtel SIM & activated NOP on it, Airtel live & PMMS are not yet activated.,i m able to use opera mini fine but GMail app says " data connection not found" & yahoo mail just keeps Finding Server. pathiks need help
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gr8, airtel sux...I just found the catch in Airtel Prepaid. U cannot access POP3 Mails using NOP plan . that means no Yahoo mail using phones inbuilt mail client & Gmail app in Prepaid.
but I can still check using Opera mini but thats not the same as opera mini is just a thin client with no access to memory card.

[gxsaurav]

Today while searching for a Mobile Google Talk application for my K750i I stumbled upon a very useful application named Talkonaut. It is a Jabber client which supports text only chatting with Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, and AIM & Google Talk. Finally something which is worth using.


For those on unlimited data plan, don’t worry. You can use it with either TCP or SSL or HTTP layer. Those with bandwidth based plans in which they pay for each KB downloaded need not worry also as Talkonout doesn’t download data when not required.


You can download it from here. Keep in mind that it requires your real phone number to work, which you will have to enter while signing in to Google talk.