Google Nexus 4 Thread

[abhidev]

It feels like they are following the Apple way by not providing SD card slot....and having the price difference just on the basis of the memory size :/ . I just don't understand the reason behind not providing a memory slot...does it increase the manufacturing cost or what??? I mean I can understand that in the case of Apple...but why Android?? X(

[acervenky]

After viewing that benchmark results I would rather go for Huawei Honor 2 it is also priced similar to Nexus 4 and also has expandable memory(With 8GB onboard)
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[guru_urug]

While I do understand the critisism the nexus 4 is getting based on benchmark performance. One point to note before blatantly writing this phone off is that the benchmarks are being done on a non-optimised or far from final version of android 4.2 . These benchmarks should not be taken seriously IMO. Maybe the review models that were passed out were prototype models and not the final manufacture pieces. We should wait till 13th november when someone gets the final retail model and benchmarks it.
The good thing is that, I really dont think Google will let LG off so easily and spoil the reputation of its nexus line. So if there are any huge hardware design flaws, rest assured that Google will presurize LG in getting them rectified ASAP. If its a matter of software optimization then Google will be prepared with the final version on 13th.

[rider]

While I do understand the critisism the nexus 4 is getting based on benchmark performance. One point to note before blatantly writing this phone off is that the benchmarks are being done on a non-optimised or far from final version of android 4.2 . These benchmarks should not be taken seriously IMO. Maybe the review models that were passed out were prototype models and not the final manufacture pieces. We should wait till 13th november when someone gets the final retail model and benchmarks it.
The good thing is that, I really dont think Google will let LG off so easily and spoil the reputation of its nexus line. So if there are any huge hardware design flaws, rest assured that Google will presurize LG in getting them rectified ASAP. If its a matter of software optimization then Google will be prepared with the final version on 13th.

I don't think those were prototype models, as we can see the back of the phone. Also no one mentioned that the phone is prototype in their reviews. Major tech sites like anadtech, engadget, cnet reviewed the phone and the review will remain the same even after the launch and people will judge with those benchmarks. If they reviewed the non final version this means its google's fault to give them early for the review. I believe it's all because of heating and throttling issue of the phone.
http://www.thinkdigit.com/Mobiles-PD...s-a_11293.html

yes...in case of Apple I can understand that they have strict policies on sharing the content and to keep piracy out of it...and so no memory slot and strict use of Itunes is hammered on the users. But in case of Android...thats not the case...it would have been the best device(memory slot provided) in that price range...I mean it still is at the given price.

Still 299/350 USD price tag worth it for 8/16GB models. Even the 8GB is big memory if you keep don't keep music, movies in the phone. Thanks to USB OTG feature for this.

[abhidev]

I guess...most of them will opt directly for the 16GB models...also I hope the heating doesn't actually burn the phone.

[rider]

I guess...most of them will opt directly for the 16GB models...also I hope the heating doesn't actually burn the phone.

Finger crossed! It is LG BTW. The back cover is made of glass that can be cracked easily according to the verge review.

[ajaymailed]

from looking at LG Optimus G benchmarks, which has same S4 quad chipset, the CPU raw power benchmarks seems to be quite good, topped both Linkpack & benchmark Pi. So are they GL benchmarks, Adreno 320 is competing with iPhone 5s triple core SGX543 in GL 2.1.
Both Adreno 320, Krait Quad do have raw power,
LG Optimus G review: Grand Slam - GSMArena.com
but its the SunSpider & Browser Benchmark that S4 has failed very badly. clearly something is wrong with Soc unable to boost Android performance.

I have seen this with HTC One S too.
HTC One S review: Onederful - GSMArena.com
It has outperformed S2 by a huge margin in Linpack & Pi, but only slightly higher in SunSpider & browser benchmark.
infact gsmarena writes Galaxy S2 with ICS actually beats One S by 10% on Sunspider.

there seems to be similar problem next generation Exynos 5. I expected more but Mali T-604 has atleast 2X performance boost over S3s Mali 400 MP4.

[rider]

from looking at LG Optimus G benchmarks, which has same S4 quad chipset, the CPU raw power benchmarks seems to be quite good, topped both Linkpack & benchmark Pi. So are they GL benchmarks, Adreno 320 is competing with iPhone 5s triple core SGX543 in GL 2.1.
Both Adreno 320, Krait Quad do have raw power,
LG Optimus G review: Grand Slam - GSMArena.com
but its the SunSpider & Browser Benchmark that S4 has failed very badly. clearly something is wrong with Soc unable to boost Android performance.

I have seen this with HTC One S too.
HTC One S review: Onederful - GSMArena.com
It has outperformed S2 by a huge margin in Linpack & Pi, but only slightly higher in SunSpider & browser benchmark.
infact gsmarena writes Galaxy S2 with ICS actually beats One S by 10% on Sunspider.

there seems to be similar problem next generation Exynos 5. I expected more but Mali T-604 has atleast 2X performance boost over S3s Mali 400 MP4.

Check these benchmarks done by anandtech on Nexus 4 and 10 AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 Performance Preview

[ajaymailed]

Check these benchmarks done by anandtech on Nexus 4 and 10 AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 Performance Preview

yes read it, as anand sir says its Android Optimization issue.
In GL benchmarks, Adreno 320 beats all other android phones. next year we would probably see Galaxy S4 with Mali T-604 retaking the crown.

have a look at Optimus G.
AnandTech - LG Optimus G Performance Preview
it blows every other smartphone out of the water as far as Linpack is concerned. but sucks badly in browser, javascript benchmarks.

But then they have sorted it out and final version will be much better. it topped the sunspider (exclude the lava phone)
AnandTech - LG Optimus G - JavaScript Performance Improving in Final Software

so as guru_urug said Google hopefully would resolve it in final shipping version. if you see Galaxy S3 with Exynos 4, which has lower CPU/GPU performance has done very well in browser benchmarks, their optimization is pretty good. Galaxy S3, Nexus, S2 seems to have excellent browser benchmarks may be coz Exynos chipset is Samsungs own. ofcourse somehow they didnt repeat with Exynos 5, Nexus 10.

[guru_urug]

New Nexus 4 Benchmarks from Anandtech show huge improvement! - xda-developers

New benchmarks by AnandTech show nexus 4 at the top

[kaz]

what about this Nexus 4 Battery Shot Reveals Potential Quality Issues – xda-developers

[rider]

New Nexus 4 Benchmarks from Anandtech show huge improvement! - xda-developers

New benchmarks by AnandTech show nexus 4 at the top

I don't think they are official and real. The user who posted is not even a developer. May be someone OC'ed for the benchmarks. Well I would better wait to see the full benchmarks in some reliable reviewing sites.

[ajaymailed]

those seem to be directly from ppl who developed GL benchmark
GLBenchmark - High performance mobile benchmark for OpenGL ES environment

[guru_urug]

New Anandtech Review
AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 Review - Google's new Flagship

[khmadhu]

nexus 4 already sold out in google play..

[AndroidFan]

In UK, USA, Australia, Germany, France... sold out in less than 1 hour...

[pratyush997]

^totally Worth it

[rider]

New Anandtech Review
AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 Review - Google's new Flagship

So, how is it overall? I read somewhere that it is coming on 30 november with the price tag of 30k for 16GB model.

[thetechfreak]

Great News guys. The phone might be launched in India by Jan next year!! Yup. Although might cost more than the US version. Read this - Online retailer lists Nexus 4, LG denies India launch

[rider]

Great News guys. The phone might be launched in India by Jan next year!! Yup. Although might cost more than the US version. Read this - Online retailer lists Nexus 4, LG denies India launch

What great about this news? LG is not even cleared the date of launch. Previously buyers were expecting the launching date of 30 November.

[thetechfreak]

What great about this news? LG is not even cleared the date of launch. Previously buyers were expecting the launching date of 30 November.

any hope of a phone launching officially then getting through grey without warranty etc is great news. Those who couldn't wait have already bought through Ebay or other sources IMO. Of course LG won't deny or approve anything now. We just have to wait

[pratyush997]

Damn.... Nexus 4 got issues man... Nexus 4's camera produces purple lens flare, too

[rider]

Damn.... Nexus 4 got issues man... Nexus 4's camera produces purple lens flare, too

It's classic sony lens issue.

[ssk_the_gr8]

BTW What is the point to get benchmarks in freezer?

prevent the heat throttling issue. which basically means that it has heating issues. Seems like a typical LG phone.

[pratyush997]

A w e so m e LG Nexus 4 listed for pre-order online in India - Mobile Phone | ThinkDigit News

[rider]

A w e so m e LG Nexus 4 listed for pre-order online in India - Mobile Phone | ThinkDigit News

Well Sameer Mitha just copy pasted tech2 news.

[pratyush997]

^Sorry, Can't Get ur point
Nvm Got it

[thetechfreak]

ooo just look at how much the phone costs now on eBay for prospective Indian buyers LG Nexus 4 available online in India now at Rs 35,999

[rider]

ooo just look at how much the phone costs now on eBay for prospective Indian buyers LG Nexus 4 available online in India now at Rs 35,999

36k on a LG phone, no thanks.

[pratyush997]

36k on a LG phone, no thanks.

Huh?
even S3 from Sammy fails after 150-200 days of use may be cuz of nand Mem getting corrupted !