Xperia mini or Moto DEFY

[adrianstone83]

Hi all...m upgrading from my Nokia 5800 to an Android smarty
My budget is 15K MAX..!!
I'm confused between two good phones - The NEW SE Xperia mini or the Moto DEFY
I'll be using this phone for fun light gaming like angry bids,fruit ninja,etc and not graphics-intensive games like NOVA AND for web browsing and music playback
So will the smallish 3" screen of the Xperia mini be too small for gaming and hinder the overall Android experience??
And will the Moto DEFY get IceCreamSandwich thro Cyanogenmod 8??

Wich phone vl be better now?

[vgowtham97]

I too have the same confusion.I too need a mobile under 16k.Please suggest Defy or Mini Pro or some other phones.

[Sam]

defy have double the resolution & 0.7" more screen. games may run slightly better on xperia mini cause of low resolution & faster processor but to enjoy it, you'll need a big screen (3.5" or more).

[ssb1551]

Guys its simple : if you guys prefer big screen with high resolution then go for DEFY 'cause Xperia Mini has 3" screen with 320×480 resolution..

[vgowtham97]

Which one is better for gaming without any lags?

[ss max]

Motorola Defy because its fast and very tough phone also it has the bigger screen.

[AndroidFan]

Motorola Defy all the way... Don't even think of Xperia Mini...

[adrianstone83]

Thanx

But I'm worried about the brand Motorola and its service in India...Anyone can shed light on this?
No such worries with Sony Ericsson though!

This is important coz m planning to use this cell for 2 years atleast!!

[sach1000rt]

Originally Posted by adrianstone83

Thanx

But I'm worried about the brand Motorola and its service in India...Anyone can shed light on this?

I respect your opinion but sony ericssson also has one of worst service(last time they took 40 days to just replace display, i had to threaten them with police complaint).
I dont know how well is motorola as brand but alot of people on internet said good things about motorola's signal reception and etc. I think they are the first who to started manufacturing phones. So for their history its a good brand and iam using defy i dont have problem till now.

[aroraanant]

xperia mini is no way man coz its quite an old phone and SE sucks in terms sevice so better go for defy or you can have a look at HTC desire,it is available for 16k at saholic.com or can have a look at wildfire s for 12k

[ssb1551]

^^ Dude where dija get Wildfire S at 12K? The lowest I found was at Flipkart for a lil over 13k.

@ adrian - blindly go for DEFY!! Even Wildfire S sucks BIG TIME as compared to DEFY with a measly 3.2" & crappy 320×480 resolution, so you can forget about a good gaming & video viewing experience. Go to gsmarena & compare the specs of both the phones. I hope you'll get some idea!!

[randomuser111]

Why are you guys getting confused ?????? He is talking about the NEW Xperia Mini ST15i.
It is better in every area compared to Defy except the screen.
1ghz MSM8255 1ghz CPU + Adreno 205 GPU
512MB RAM
5 MP cam with HD video
Reality Display with Mobile Bravia Engine.
And much better audio quality than Defy.
Android 2.3 Gingerbread OS

So @OP If you want a bigger screen and a more rugged phone get the Defy, but if you value a good camera, smooth performance and a high "quality" display over size then the Mini/Mini pro would be unbeatable in this range specs wise and as a result performance wise.
You are getting same specs as Xperia Arc and Incredible S that cost 10k more.

[ssb1551]

Originally Posted by randomuser111

You are getting same specs as Xperia Arc and Incredible S that cost 10k more.

Dude really!!!"Same specs as Arc"...Arc has a whopping 4.2" screen with a 480×854 resolution. How can you even compare that to a measly 3" screen with a crappy 320×480 resolution. Resolution does matter when it comes to watching videos.

[sujoyp]

@OP how about Xperia mini pro...it even have a hardware keyboard and heard that priced 15.6k...remaining specs r same as New xperia mini

Guys this is not x10 mini or x10 mini pro....its xperia mini and xperia mini pro

[Anorion]

The Xperia Mini is out? I think OP is still referring to the Xperia X10 mini,

[adrianstone83]

Nope I was talking abt the NEW Xperia mini which should release in abt 2 weeks ...heard rumors that the Xperia mini pro was already out though!
Also if I'm going for DEFY would it be better if I went for a red lens one?

[sujoyp]

Originally Posted by Anorion

The Xperia Mini is out? I think OP is still referring to the Xperia X10 mini,

nope he wrote NEw xperia mini...which cost around 14-15k (coz xperia mini pro is costing around 15.6 in letsbuy or some site

[Anorion]

we need a SE general to discuss SE phones, as the defy and the nexus s are going to be the most recommended
the greenheart phones have pretty good battery lives, and the specs look pretty good as well. theres a feathertouch implementation on this one, as against those chunky buttons on the other xperias, so thats some progress over top end models (not the arc )

[desiibond]

The SE general seems to be busy with whatever. not seeing him on twitter or on forums

anyways, Defy over Xperia Mini Pro or Xperia Mini (not the x10 ones):

Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro vs. Motorola DEFY - GSMArena.com

1. Bigger display and display is better for reading etc (LCD) and the 0.7" extra real estate cannot be ignored.
2. more onboard storage
3. better call quality in noisy situations (thanks to active noise cancellation, but helps the person who is on the other side of the call)
4. better battery
5. terrific rom support
6. build quality

and this is where mini pro scores:

1. text input (hardkey qwerty rocks anyday)
2. camera quality
3. music quality
4. UI
5. CPU
6. video calling (no secondary cam on Defy)
7. bravia display is better for movies and makes the UI beautiful


Defy: for those who always try new ROMs, ebook reading, internet surfing
Xperia mini pro: text junkies, shutterbugs, multimedia lovers, G+ hangout addicts

[sujoyp]

@desibond...so u mean ...for day to day usage xperia mini pro is better coz of cam, music, qwerty
and for experimenting and reading defy is better right

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by sujoyp

@desibond...so u mean ...for day to day usage xperia mini pro is better coz of cam, music, qwerty
and for experimenting and reading defy is better right

if if if 3" display is okay for the buyer!

[sach1000rt]

Originally Posted by desiibond

if if if 3" display is okay for the buyer!

and 320x480 resolution(with that hardware).
Put it in other way
xperia mini for girls(small, design, all tends to girly look)
defy for men(rugged,hunky look)
Dont get me wrong though.

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by sach1000rt

and 320x480 resolution(with that hardware).
Put it in other way
xperia mini for girls(small, design, all tends to girly look)
defy for men(rugged,hunky look)
Dont get me wrong though.

not exactly. the older x10 mini is for girls. the 3.0" on this one is just a bit less than what we see in most sub 15k galaxy devices but it outclasses those galaxies in every other aspect. I think O1 and Defy are the only sub15k droids that match X10 mini pro in overall performance/features.

[ssb1551]

^^Nice way to put it...

[puneetgarg]

go for motorola defy very sturdy built and bigger screen and resolution

[Zangetsu]

Defy is recommended

@desiibond: add one more pro for DEFY...waterproof

[sach1000rt]

Originally Posted by desiibond

not exactly. the older x10 mini is for girls. the 3.0" on this one is just a bit less than what we see in most sub 15k galaxy devices but it outclasses those galaxies in every other aspect. I think O1 and Defy are the only sub15k droids that match X10 mini pro in overall performance/features.

did you mean x10 mini pro or mini pro.
i was talking about look and design - x10 mini pro height - 90mm and
mini pro height - 92mm
so dimensions are almost same for new and old one. so this small device looks girly. yes i dont question its other specs which you will get in 20k-25k range mobiles. But what is the use of that spec if display is low it dimnishes user experience.
I will put it this way again
mini pro - regular smartphone use like, for girls.
defy - as name suggests defy, adventurous for men.

[sujoyp]

I think u people r neglecting the fact that it have 1ghz procc and adreno 205 graphics...its size is 3" and not 2.6 like old ones...
Its preloaded with gingerbread
have somewhat better sound and cam then Defy
even u have a keypad to type...u dont need a cramped up qwerty pad on screen

other advantages r just gimmik...ok y do u purchase a galaxy S which is not rugged, waterproof etc...

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by sach1000rt

did you mean x10 mini pro or mini pro.
i was talking about look and design - x10 mini pro height - 90mm and
mini pro height - 92mm
so dimensions are almost same for new and old one. so this small device looks girly. yes i dont question its other specs which you will get in 20k-25k range mobiles. But what is the use of that spec if display is low it dimnishes user experience.
I will put it this way again
mini pro - regular smartphone use like, for girls.
defy - as name suggests defy, adventurous for men.

SGS: 122.4
SGSII (with 0.3" larger display): 125.3

does this mean that SGSII is less meant for guys coz it has 0.3" bigger display but is not much longer compared to SGS?

and btw, I would anyday take a 3" display with vibrant colors and standard resolution over a 3.2" display with pathetic color reproduction and resolution that makes text look washed out.

[sach1000rt]

Originally Posted by desiibond

SGS: 122.4
SGSII (with 0.3" larger display): 125.3

does this mean that SGSII is less meant for guys coz it has 0.3" bigger display but is not much longer compared to SGS?

and btw, I would anyday take a 3" display with vibrant colors and standard resolution over a 3.2" display with pathetic color reproduction and resolution that makes text look washed out.

you are not getting my point.I am not talking about the size here. dont drag it to somewhere else. mini's are small phones which look comfortable in girls hands. they are kind of girly.
dont drag this to other phones and sizes etc.think it in general (mobile phone's universal way), not comparing small phone to big phone.

which phone u r refering to that 3.2" display with pathetic color reproduction?

Originally Posted by sujoyp

I think u people r neglecting the fact that it have 1ghz procc and adreno 205 graphics...its size is 3" and not 2.6 like old ones...
Its preloaded with gingerbread
have somewhat better sound and cam then Defy
even u have a keypad to type...u dont need a cramped up qwerty pad on screen

other advantages r just gimmik...ok y do u purchase a galaxy S which is not rugged, waterproof etc...

nobody is neglecting it. in fact they are great specs as i said in my previous post . but what is the use of 1ghz and adreno 205 on 320x480 res screen?
I have seen x8 screen which has 3'' 320x480 res. and i must say pixels were visible on text, icons etc.

I am not telling anybody to buy this or that.
im just raising few points here to the buyer who may get dissappoint after buying certain phone without researching.