Motorola Defy and Defy+

[giprabu]

^^you can trust motorola service than anyone (yes better than nokia! ).. Coz I never had problem with any nokia phones. With motorola, they will fix up any problem without any quarrels whenever u visit them with problems..

[abhi615]

just a thought!!

i agree defy is a value for money android, and may be the best in its price range. but the moment i type "best android in india around 15k", i'm yet to open a link which features defy as one of the recommended devices (except if the link i open is one of the forums).( have even tried changing the search settings to last month, so that defy with 2.2 is in picture). i hope i'v made myself clear. if not just type in the line on google and check the search results.
it might sound silly to some but just couldnt ignore it, so thought i'l post it here.

and i'l be more than glad if some one is able to direct me to a link which lists defy as a recommended device.

[desiibond]

just a thought!!

i agree defy is a value for money android, and may be the best in its price range. but the moment i type "best android in india around 15k", i'm yet to open a link which features defy as one of the recommended devices (except if the link i open is one of the forums).( have even tried changing the search settings to last month, so that defy with 2.2 is in picture). i hope i'v made myself clear. if not just type in the line on google and check the search results.
it might sound silly to some but just couldnt ignore it, so thought i'l post it here.

and i'l be more than glad if some one is able to direct me to a link which lists defy as a recommended device.

Let me guess. Most of the posts point to Ace or one of the galaxies or Wildfire (the older one) right?
80% of Indians still consider Nokia as the best mobile phone manufacturer, any gaalaxy phone as the best android phone, lux as the best soap, clinic plus as the best shampoo, maruti as the best car. Most act like a pack of sheep. Two says Ace is the best one and the rest will spread that without even thinking why. And time and again, I see the same attitude with few members here.

And yes, it does sound silly.

so, many Indian sites say that Ace is the best midrange droid. You do a google search 'motorola defy or galaxy ace' and you will find the answer.

PS: When most of those articles were written, Defy was priced at 18k+ INR. But the current price of 15k has made it a much better value.

[lywyre]

Do you want Defy with 1GHz processor?
Do you want Defy with Gingerbread?

Then, if you wait a couple of months you can get Defy+

From GSMArena

According to German website mobiFlip.de, O2 in Germany is planning on launching the Motorola DEFY+, an updated version of the current Defy.
The only changes we know of right now is a upgraded 1GHz processor from the 800MHz in the current DEFY and Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread instead of Froyo. Everything else seems identical, including the design.
To be honest, those were the only two drawbacks of the current DEFY and we're glad that the new model addressed those. This does raise questions whether the old model will get the Gingerbread update or will be limited to Froyo.
The release date is set sometime in the third week of September and the phone will be sold at an approximate price of € 300.

Source: Motorola DEFY+ leaks on O2 Germany - GSMArena.com news

[abhi615]

Let me guess. Most of the posts point to Ace or one of the galaxies or Wildfire (the older one) right?
80% of Indians still consider Nokia as the best mobile phone manufacturer, any gaalaxy phone as the best android phone, lux as the best soap, clinic plus as the best shampoo, maruti as the best car. Most act like a pack of sheep. Two says Ace is the best one and the rest will spread that without even thinking why. And time and again, I see the same attitude with few members here.

And yes, it does sound silly.

so, many Indian sites say that Ace is the best midrange droid. You do a google search 'motorola defy or galaxy ace' and you will find the answer.

PS: When most of those articles were written, Defy was priced at 18k+ INR. But the current price of 15k has made it a much better value.

i agree about the mentality stuff. ya they list ace as better when anyone can see its not. but even the reviewers for various sites who shud be smart enugh dont recommend defy. i agree "defy or ace" search, results come in favour of defy ( i did mention abt forums in my post).
i thought defy's available for 15k for quite long now. anyways.

regarding defy 2 i'm not sure when it wil come to india. few months could well turn out to be next year.
the only thing i hate abt motorola is they neglect indian users big time, but their products are awesome(build quality etc).

[sach1000rt]

probably defy+ will come with gingerbread and 1ghz proc at original price of 18-19k maybe. but current defy is able to do all that(1ghz proc, cm7 or miui).

And i think its just plain ideocracy that why this is not coming as best android phone in 15k range? just put that phrase on any website or facebook etc and google will show you that result(dont take it seriously).
people will ignore this phone because newer phones are coming and they will get paid by the manufacturers to advertise it or may be hail it as best phone in that range or this range.

[ss max]

Check out this cool review of defy that i found out on youtube ,‪Motorola Defy Review, water, scratch test, dust proof‬‏ - YouTube

Lastly you can go for class 10 as it will be future proof.

[abhi615]

hi guys,
anyone has any idea of retailer selling defy in west delhi or central delhi. a price quote will help too. i' want to check out this phone. out of numerous stores i'v tried, none of them keeps moto products.

[maddy1205]

.i dont know about central or west delhi but you can get one from reliance digital store....its located in the ambience mall(both gurgaon and vasant kunj)

[sach1000rt]

miui rom updated to 1.8.5 (updated to android 2.3.5)
for changelog follow this thread
[ROM] Motorola Defy MIUI.us Presents MIUI 1.8.5 Pure English [AOSP] - xda-developers
or this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079150

[socrates]

.i dont know about central or west delhi but you can get one from reliance digital store....its located in the ambience mall(both gurgaon and vasant kunj)

Same with me in Mumbai. Many retailers bluntly told me aare saab why are you wasting time enquiring Sony Ericsson & Mororola Even Flipkart has raised its price from 14800 to 15399. I was warned of this by a person who attribute it to the festive season going on.

[Soumik]

Defy + (not Defy 2) is an upgraded version of Defy. Its the exact same phone with addition of 1 GHz overclock, 720p video recording with Bayer Lens and Gingerbread out of the box.
The leaked GB ROM from Moto was actually for the new device. This was confirmed quite sometime back even in Moto service forums, not sure y GSMArena took so long to announce it. Anyways, its just a marketing gimmick. If you have the Bayer Module lens, just get the official ROM for Defy+ and u will be having a Defy+ in ur hands.

Well, ppl who write reviews as to Ace being better than Defy, they would be normal hired ppl who use their phones for basic evryday purposes with no interest in what all the smartphone can actually do for u, or what underneath the outer covers. They might even go and say Super LCD is better than Super Amoled cause they show brighter pictures. just saying..
Small scenario abt the mentality thing. Last week, one of my seniors(IT proffessional) wanted to buy a new phone. in the range of 12-13K. She was also asking if any Galaxy is availale in that price. I clearly said, if u get Ace for 13K, go for it. else, lower ur budget and get Optimus One, or make it higher and get Defy. Her response was.. LG! Motorola! are their phone any good? Isnt there any other option, Like Nokia and Sony? I pointed her to this forum and asked her to go through the threads, u will get to know which ones are worth buying. Yesterday she calls me and tells me... I got a SE Xperia phone (not sure if its W8 or X8, it is either of them by her description), and asked how it this one? I said yeah its a good looking phone. Enjoy it.

[abhi615]

guys where can can i lay my hands on defy for testing it out. west or central delhi.

[Soumik]

^^ dont know if u have any, but u can chk Croma outlets. They have working samples of the devices. Or even some Ezones...

@sach1000rt - Hey i got another query regarding MIUI. I installed MIUI for Desire on my room mate's phone today. Its seems to be totally like iPhone. I started to miss an app drawer from the word go. And the MIUI store for themes and lock screens is totally in Chinese.
Is there any version of MIUI available with everything in English? And does the MIUI for Defy have an app drawer?

[arjundg]

can some one provide me the link to buy a screen guard for this chick ??
bought this yesterday and and its simply awesome !!

Congratulations on your purchase, wise decision...
Regarding screen guard, I think you better go with a local shop, it will cost around Rs 150. The screen guards do not come in exact screen size for Defy, they blocks the sensors which dont turn the screen off when you are on a call. I bought a 4 inch screen guard from a local shop and the service person there resized it and fitted it excellently.

[AndroidFan]

Small scenario abt the mentality thing. Last week, one of my seniors(IT proffessional) wanted to buy a new phone. in the range of 12-13K. She was also asking if any Galaxy is availale in that price. I clearly said, if u get Ace for 13K, go for it. else, lower ur budget and get Optimus One, or make it higher and get Defy. Her response was.. LG! Motorola! are their phone any good? Isnt there any other option, Like Nokia and Sony? I pointed her to this forum and asked her to go through the threads, u will get to know which ones are worth buying. Yesterday she calls me and tells me... I got a SE Xperia phone (not sure if its W8 or X8, it is either of them by her description), and asked how it this one? I said yeah its a good looking phone. Enjoy it.

This is sad... an IT Professional doesn't care to research one bit about the phone she is buying? Why don't people love technology?

[Soumik]

^ Its the mentality thing. Instead of taking the pain of searching and reading through the threads, is easier to take comments. And i probably have been the only one pointing her to LG or Motorola over Samsung and SE. And truth be told, LG and MOTO do have a bad reputation with most ppl. Even though they have redeemed themselves by making phones like Optimus One and Defy available to us, not many ppl know abt these phone. In my ofc bus, i hardly see anyone holding any android other than Samsung Galaxies(inclucing SGS and SGSII along with G3 G5 GAce GPop etc), HTC(mostly Wildfire or Wildfire S), and SE(X10, X10 mini and X8/W8). Absolutely no LG/Moto anywhere.

[abhi615]

hi guys,
finally laid my hands on defy, a decent phone, good when u take into account 15k price tag. but its touch disappointed me ( was that moto blur or plain android), no where near htc's sense UI., even touch wiz appears better.
is ther any way to improve defy's touch without rooting it.


P.S : shopkeeper asked me not to consider this phone as it is not a good phone, advised me samsung / htc., well i just smiled back.

[AndroidFan]

hi guys,
finally laid my hands on defy, a decent phone, good when u take into account 15k price tag. but its touch disappointed me ( was that moto blur or plain android), no where near htc's sense UI., even touch wiz appears better.
is ther any way to improve defy's touch without rooting it.


P.S : shopkeeper asked me not to consider this phone as it is not a good phone, advised me samsung / htc., well i just smiled back.

Change the launcher... Try Go Ex Launcher or Launcher Pro. Stay away from ADW Launcher...

Personally, I use MoDaCo's Gingerbread launcher... It really speeds up the phone...

P. S. Inquired last week. Defy is available for 13.8k in Hyderabad shops...

[abhi615]

Change the launcher... Try Go Ex Launcher or Launcher Pro. Stay away from ADW Launcher...

Personally, I use MoDaCo's Gingerbread launcher... It really speeds up the phone...

P. S. Inquired last week. Defy is available for 13.8k in Hyderabad shops...

hi,
u mean to say changing launcher will speed up the lag which is there when scrolling through apps in defy. and both of these will work on froyo (un rooted) ?
wow 13.8k.. price quoted to me was 15,400 (delhi). (its much cheaper on letsbuy, after coupon ofcourse).

[socrates]

P.S : shopkeeper asked me not to consider this phone as it is not a good phone, advised me samsung / htc., well i just smiled back.

lol same is happening to me in Mumbai. I am not sure if they say this coz they don't stock it or its cpz of complaints/poor commissions which led to poor sales hence not stocking it

[sach1000rt]

^^ @sach1000rt - Hey i got another query regarding MIUI. I installed MIUI for Desire on my room mate's phone today. Its seems to be totally like iPhone. I started to miss an app drawer from the word go. And the MIUI store for themes and lock screens is totally in Chinese.
Is there any version of MIUI available with everything in English? And does the MIUI for Defy have an app drawer?

Sorry i didnt notice your post.
miui is mainly chinese rom devoloped by chinese.but there are also english translated versions. I dont know for any other phone but for defy if you want a launcher in miui check this link
[ROM][MOD] WajkIUI 1.7.29 - MULTiLanguage - xda-developers

[Soumik]

hi,
u mean to say changing launcher will speed up the lag which is there when scrolling through apps in defy. and both of these will work on froyo (un rooted) ?
wow 13.8k.. price quoted to me was 15,400 (delhi). (its much cheaper on letsbuy, after coupon ofcourse).

Yeah... changing the Launcher does speed up the phone. I am using GO Launcher Ex, and it feels a lot faster in everything over the stock launcher.

Sorry i didnt notice your post.
miui is mainly chinese rom devoloped by chinese.but there are also english translated versions. I dont know for any other phone but for defy if you want a launcher in miui check this link
[ROM][MOD] WajkIUI 1.7.29 - MULTiLanguage - xda-developers

Not a problem.
Ya i know MIUI is a chinese ROM, but since they could translate almost everything to English, y leave the MIUI Store chinese? I was thinking there might be some way to push an English language pack to system..?

WajkIUI looks cool. I would probably go for that one for my Defy. Am not just going for it right now, cause GO Launcher has soo many themes,.. just cant get bored with it.
Anyways, now that i have modded my rommie's Desire, and friend's X8, itching to get a new device from somewhere and try to mod it out...hehe

[sach1000rt]

who installed miui can follow this thread for its hidden features etc..
MIUI Hidden Features [Video Included 6.30.11]
example : miui rom has inbuilt screenshot taking option i.e. hold volume down and menu button it will take screenshot.
In 1.8.5 when screen is locked just hold home button to start torch(screen has to be active i.e. just press power button and screen comes alive.)
when screen is locked double tap on lock to start music player.
You can donwload themes from here also http://forums.miuiandroid.com/forumd...Theme-Releases
Miui comes with dnd mode which when activated allows you to blacklist calls and sms. you can block sms by keyword also.
apply any theme and you can still edit that theme like changing locksreen, font ,status bar, icons, launcher etc and you can backup that modified theme also.
Swiping from left to right or right to left gives you the option to select and delete a message or call log.

[soumya.b]

i hv updated Android Market application..but it is running quite slow. how cud i revert it back to my older one?

[sach1000rt]

dont worry it will come to normal after sometime. If the problem persists then revert back.

[soumya.b]

dont worry it will come to normal after sometime. If the problem persists then revert back.

cud u tell me the process how to revert it back....

[sach1000rt]

well i dont know exactly how to revert back but dont do it as it will update again to new version. may be it is updating in background. if problem perists then download the apk from internet and install it manually.
maybe reset will revert it but you will lose some data and settings.

[abhi615]

Yeah... changing the Launcher does speed up the phone. I am using GO Launcher Ex, and it feels a lot faster in everything over the stock launcher.

thanks soumik,
thats grt. and do u feel the general lag in apps also., and did this lag also disappear with go launcher.

[shuhailnp]

hi ..
i m thinking of buying this phone or samsung wave 2 . can anyone check which one has good screen , like which one has vivid .. and does wave and defy can play angry birds without lag ?????