Samsung Galaxy S II

[ax3]

phone is awesome bt the price is 2 heavy .....

[ithehappy]

GS II will come S-AMOLED + coz the LCD is not yet released officially, but after the release of the LCD version it will replace the LED ones, that's why you have to buy it at first lot

[kalpik]

Hmm.. Seems like S2 will be delayed for 2 months at least

[ithehappy]

What, why, how do you know that ???

[sam]

^^ i guess another of kalpik's so called source

[kalpik]

Hmm.. Here's the source: https://twitter.com/#!/Praval/status/50872043201236992

This guy arranges Samsung PR events in India..

Oh, and yeah, learn to respect your sources

[sam]

^^ thanks for uncovering your anonymous source.

you always tell source but never told which, nor gave any clue. sorry but didn't mean to disrespect anyone

[kalpik]

Well, I could name him as the conversation happened on a public medium (Twitter).. As for some other sources, you cannot really name them.. And yes, I have other sources too

[ithehappy]

Frankly speaking I don't believe S II will come 2 months late here.

On pre order and these Prices seem correct.
Samsung Galaxy S II i9100
Samsung Galaxy S II (Black) (Unlocked)

[Soumik]

So, we should be expecting a price of 30K or wat?
That would be great, cause that would mean the mini price would be around 22-24K
ANyways... if it doesnt get released soon india, be sure it will be a nvidia tegra 2 batch.

[ithehappy]

Nope, the AMOLED version will come out here within two weeks.

[kalpik]

Nope, the AMOLED version will come out here within two weeks.

Lets hope so!

[Soumik]

It will always be an amoled version. I doubt 8.6mm waistline is possible in normal or SC LCD... unless PLS tech is used, which i know very little of.
Anyways... hope you are right and we get the cream bunch soon .. (ahem.. at a price point which doesnt give us a mild heart attack... )

[Hrithan2020]

gr8 phone unlike its bro Galaxy S

Can you explain why? It seems to have the same plastic body, very light/fragile feel, which many found to be undesirable.

Plus, it doesn't have industry leading graphics/cpu performance which SGS had(should be iPhone5 this round, else Optimus 3D or similar phones with TI OMAP 4430).
It has a larger screen with the same resolution (but hopefully, the SAMOLED+ 's sharpness would be equivalent to a normal RGB-style LCD).

Having said that, hope this time around SGS II doesn't come with any glaring firmware issues out of the box. (which in itself, along with the specs, could potentially make it a best-seller, if priced competitively).

@kalpik,
Your sources have been wrong. (The one which I remember now, for instance,is your source saying gingerbread for SGS phones by Feb mid? Even now, no 2.2.1 released in India .. )..

But, this time I hope your source is correct. (not about being delayed part, though ). Although, to me it seems like the launch price would be between 32-34k (so, the street prices would indeed be closer to 30k.)

[ithehappy]

@Hrithan2020- SGS is a good phone, undoubtedly. But it never can be compared with SGS II. SGS II is a way better device and more than worthy upgrade. In brief, SGS II has 1080p Video recording, 1GB RAM (Double of SGS), Dual Core A9 Processor (Compare with single core A8 of SGS), Bigger screen (Yes of same resolution of SGS, but that's more than enough), 8MP Camera with LED Flash (Compared with a Non Flash 5 MP of SGS), SUPER AMOLED PLUS (Compared with S-AMOLED of SGS, though I don't think it's a huge update), NFC Support and etc etc.

Here is the comparison of them, in a single line, SGS II will outdate and defeat SGS by a huge margin.

Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II vs. Samsung I9000 Galaxy S - GSMArena.com

[Dangerous Dave]

awsome phone

[Soumik]

@Hrithan2020 - SGSII does have industry leading hardware. Samsung's implementation of ARM based procs were best last time, and i bet they are the best this time round too. Probably first benchmarks would proove that. And its already noted that Mali 400 is quite ahead of Tegra 2 ULP geforce.Its got the highest ram so far, along with Atrix. It probably would beat anything else in the market for screen quality. So, for the moment, SGS II would have the best hardware in the market.
If you are talking about future, yes, it would be overtaken before end of this year. TI OMAP 4430 would be used very soon. Not iPhone 5 certainly. Also dual core snapdragons with Adreno 220 would also be coming out this year.
But for now, SGS II is the clear winner.. just like SGS was during its launch

[evewin89]

The 1st time when i saw this phone on "gsmarena" i was very thrilled. and i made my mind to buy this one if it cost around 25k to 27k but now i think i have to stick with my old samsung SGH-E-490 which still looks new (though lacks many featured of current gen phones) but i'll definately buy this phone if its price comes down.

[kalpik]

@kalpik,
Your sources have been wrong. (The one which I remember now, for instance,is your source saying gingerbread for SGS phones by Feb mid? Even now, no 2.2.1 released in India .. )..

When I speak about ROM releases, I don't speak about India specifically.. And for GB, I had said it will be out in March.. And sure enough, it is out

[Hrithan2020]

@ithehappy,
Dude, obviously. SGS II should be in every way better than SGS. I was comparing SGS with its peers. (It wasn't until the tegra 2 phones, that SGS's graphics capabilities were overtaken)

However, SGS II when it launches won't stay much ahead of its peers.

@Hrithan2020 - SGSII does have industry leading hardware. Samsung's implementation of ARM based procs were best last time, and i bet they are the best this time round too. Probably first benchmarks would proove that. And its already noted that Mali 400 is quite ahead of Tegra 2 ULP geforce.Its got the highest ram so far, along with Atrix. It probably would beat anything else in the market for screen quality. So, for the moment, SGS II would have the best hardware in the market.
If you are talking about future, yes, it would be overtaken before end of this year. TI OMAP 4430 would be used very soon. Not iPhone 5 certainly. Also dual core snapdragons with Adreno 220 would also be coming out this year.
But for now, SGS II is the clear winner.. just like SGS was during its launch

Actually ,previous time also , it (ARM implementation) wasn't the best. It lacked true [128-bit ala Snapdragon Processors.] NEON support,(the primary reason the jump to Froyo, didn't come with huge performance jump in Benchmarks. It was with the SGX 540 , that SGS stood tall. (SAMOLED screen also certainly helped )

In terms of initial performance impressions of SGS II, have a look at these:
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

LG Optimus 3D Preliminary Performance - OMAP4 Tested - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

I'm not talking about it being overtaken by end of year, it would be much earlier.
Also, if iPhone 5 manages to have similar SPECs to iPad 2 , it will have class-leading performance for a while:

Apple iPad 2 GPU Performance Explored: PowerVR SGX543MP2 Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

When I speak about ROM releases, I don't speak about India specifically.. And for GB, I had said it will be out in March.. And sure enough, it is out

Of course, I didn't mean India. I couldn't find the exact post I was referring to,(don't have time). But, in this post, you seem to say it was in Feb.

Anyway, leave it. And it is not out yet (Well, not officially)

[kalpik]

Haha.. I am connected to Samsung devs through some contacts.. So I can only tell when the ROM is ready.. When Samsung releases it where is mostly a business decision

Also, its normal for projects to get delayed.. So even if I said Feb, and its out in March, its really not a big deal

[Hrithan2020]

@kalpik,
Yeah not a big deal, but having heard from you about the possibility of a gingerbread release, I was at least hoping for a 2.2.1 official release in India by March !! (Not for me, but for few of my friends, who are very hesitant to do rooting/loading a custom ROM! )..

[kalpik]

Hmm.. Yeah.. I think they skipped 2.2.1 for India

[Hrithan2020]

Hmm.. Yeah.. I think they skipped 2.2.1 for India

And ,if XXJVK is any indication, I will be disappointed with the official release .
(Maybe , it's because now, I have become used to custom ROM's , but the new 2.2.1 releases seems to be much smoother compared to the XXJVK.. But, then again the latter releases of 2.3.3 ought to be much better )

[kalpik]

And ,if XXJVK is any indication, I will be disappointed with the official release .
(Maybe , it's because now, I have become used to custom ROM's , but the new 2.2.1 releases seems to be much smoother compared to the XXJVK.. But, then again the latter releases of 2.3.3 ought to be much better )

JVK has been smooth so far.. And things will only get better Anyway, we are going offtopic now!

[Soumik]

@Hrithan2020 - True. It does seem Gingerbread running Exynor cant keep with Froyo running OMAP 4430. :'( This saddens me really. I had high hopes for samsung.

[kalpik]

@Hrithan2020 - True. It does seem Gingerbread running Exynor cant keep with Froyo running OMAP 4430. :'( This saddens me really. I had high hopes for samsung.

Don't go by current benchmark apps.. They are not optimised for the quad core GPU that the Mali400 is! The Mali400 GPU is better than the GPU inside XBOX 360

[Hrithan2020]

Don't go by current benchmark apps.. They are not optimised for the quad core GPU that the Mali400 is! The Mali400 GPU is better than the GPU inside XBOX 360

True. Having heard rumours that it was quad core, I was stunned to see it perform so low. Expected it to perform at least faster than Tegra 2 . Let's hope you are correct!!

But, considering that Sony NGP has a SGX 543 MP4+, and it advertises the GPU to be as fast as the PS3 or XBOX 360, I find it hard to believe that, Mali400 which right now is struggling against Tegra 2 (from what you say, there will be a huge performance jump, hopefully at least competitive with SGX 543 MP2, which iPad2 comes with) can lay that claim ? ( Most likely it is because of the rumoured 450 M TPS, provided Samsung's claims are true, which comes near X Box 360's 500 MTPS and surpasses PS3's 250 MTPS)

[kalpik]

Well, its all a waiting game right now my friend! Let the phones launch, and let us get decent reviews But I'm betting on Samsung.. They are known to put the best hardware in their phones.. And let me tell you, there is a reason for that.. If you see *any* phone (even the iWhat), most of the internal components are from Samsung.. So you see, they save the best for themselves

[Soumik]

But I'm betting on Samsung.. They are known to put the best hardware in their phones.. And let me tell you, there is a reason for that.. If you see *any* phone (even the iWhat), most of the internal components are from Samsung.. So you see, they save the best for themselves

Thats y i hope samsung SGSII will be the best phone for the time being. And would be beating iPhone5 in benchmarks .