Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 Vs Motorola Defy Vs Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8

[detonator2359]

hey frnds what you think which one is better
Samsung Ace abt -15k
Vs
Motorola Defy -18k
Vs
Sony ericsson Xperia X8 -13k

m a lil rough mobile user.....

[Sam]

please don't insult Defy & Ace by comparing it to a flop X8. also X8 is overpriced, 128Mb ram & android 2.1. nothing but a big joke.

[AndroidFan]

The main competition is Defy Vs Ace...

Wait for a few days... Defy has a faster processor. Ace is very new.

Lets see some reviews of Ace first. I suspect it could be really good.

Or you could look at Samsung Galaxy SL @19.5k which is another amazing piece of tech.

[Sam]

Galaxy SL is really worth. also waiting a month will bring price of SL to around 18k or lower. so forget Defy & Ace. and remember, X8 = idiot's mobile.

[detonator2359]

Galaxy SL doesnt have flash with camera...so does it matters..?? while defy has Led Flash with its camera..

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Samsung Galaxy is giveing Android 2.2 n Defy had Android 2.1 does this thing matters...??

[Sam]

^^ depends on what you prefer. if you want it fr clicking pics, get Defy. else Galaxy S SL is really worth the price.

[axes2t2]

If you are on a tight budget buy Ace otherwise go for Defy.

[Soumik]

Among the 4 mobiles mentioned here...
If you're a non tech savy girl - X8.. got a cute pink color (otherwise i simple dont like it.)
Tight budget - Ace (like the design and looks, higher ram and better screen would have made it a sure deal.)
Want a phone with high potential and not afraid to mod - Defy (only rugged phone with one of the most compact bodies with biggest screens. Power proc, 512 ram, hi res 3.7" lcd... perfect
Want a phone with high potential and afraid to mod - Galaxy SL(Same powerful proc of Defy only clocked little higher, 478mb ram, 4" sclcd.. best display among them. no flash on camera. 4gigs mem. basically a mock up of the mightly galaxy S, but actually performs pretty well compared to the competition. excellent vfm)

But finally - go check the working mobiles in some shop, see the UI and check for lags... pick the one u like most

[detonator2359]

wot you mean by mod. can defy be overclocked...???? and wots vfm...??

[axes2t2]

I think vfm = value for money.

And yes,you can do lot's of things to the Defy.

[desiibond]

None of the mentioned phones will get Gingerbread update. Defy is still stuck on Eclair and Moto may or may not release Froyo.

I would pick Galaxy SL over Ace because of its better specs and more importantly, bigger and better battery life.

[pauldmps]

^^ Except camera flash.

Another query is that it seems that Galaxy S Gingerbread update files have been leaked. Any chance of them working on the Galaxy SL ?

[detonator2359]

so should i go for samsung galaxy sl over Defy n Ace..???

[vishurocks]

Yeah. Galaxy sl is a total vfm device @ 19.5k. But u can wait atleast a month and could get galaxy sl atleast 1k cheaper

[NainO]

Originally Posted by detonator2359

so should i go for samsung galaxy sl over Defy n Ace..???

Unless you want flash.
But I really think you shouldn't sacrifice other features (esp. 1GHz hummingbird chipset) for just flash

[detonator2359]

ok then i'll finally go for Samsung Galaxy SL

[Soumik]

Originally Posted by NainO

Unless you want flash.
But I really think you shouldn't sacrifice other features (esp. 1GHz hummingbird chipset) for just flash

Its not really a Hummingbird chipset!!!
Its the same proc and GPU as that of Defy. Its a TI OMAP chipset.
The diff bet the two are:
CPU speed bump of 200Mhz - SL>Defy (Hardly matters)
RAM downgrade 34MB - SL<Defy (Almost Negligible)
Screen Upgrade from 3.7" LCD to 4" SCLCD on almost similar res. - SL>Defy (Matters quite a bit)
Size increase - SL<Defy (Defy is a significantly more compact and has a better grip)
Lower Build quality - SL<Defy (Defy has a much much better build than SL)
Froyo upgrade - SL>Defy (SL comes with froyo, defy is still stuck with eclair)
Flash missing - SL=Defy (Its a tie as SL has the better camera, but without flash cancelling each other out)
XDA support - SL<Defy (Defy has huge dev support and using roms, the potential of Defy increases many folds)
HD video recording - AFAIK SL supports 720p video recording, while Defy doesnt, so SL>Defy
Secondary Camera - SL has one, Defy doesnt. SL> Defy.
GPU - Both have the same decently powerful GPU.

Now.. take ur pick

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Other can add in the battery backup of the two and their latest street price. I cant comment on them for sure...

[detonator2359]

in specification Gpu is not mentioned in defy...???

[vishurocks]

Defy and galaxy sl both have powervr sgx530 gpu

[NainO]

Originally Posted by Soumik

Its not really a Hummingbird chipset!!!
Its the same proc and GPU as that of Defy. Its a TI OMAP chipset.

My bad

Originally Posted by Soumik

The diff bet the two are:
CPU speed bump of 200Mhz - SL>Defy (Hardly matters)

It does matter.
Samsung Ace with 200 MHz CPU clock speed bump and same GPU (though significantly lower RAM) as that of Optimus One, performs better.
Head to GSMarena and check out their respective BenchmarkPi scores

[Soumik]

^^ Hmm Thats true... Strange that it would be so. But since 600MHz to 800MHz would be a 33% speed increase, i guess it makes sense.
I did not find any benchmarkPi score for SL or Defy(please share if u find any), but Defy would certainly loose this test for both 25% speed increase and Froyo difference.
Still, I wonder if it would make any difference in day to day working at all. I used Defy, and Wave II(1 GHz hummingbird), from croma this weekend, and both felt quite smooth without any lag. While zooming in on pics Wave II gave a lag, which defy didnt, but it guess it would be touchwiz problem.
Anyways, I still think that 800MHz to 1GHz wont make too much of a difference in day to day life... but i may be wrong...

[detonator2359]

so overall which one is better Defy or Samsung Galaxy SL..???

[NainO]

^ my vote is with Galaxy SL

[Sam]

SGS SL worth the extra 2k (maybe available cheaper locally) over Defy.

[LegendKiller]

meanwhile i checked out Ace at mobilestore and its screen is awesome.........atleast in front of my n85....

SL galaxy wasn't available with them............

[Soumik]

Originally Posted by detonator2359

so overall which one is better Defy or Samsung Galaxy SL..???

Depends on your needs. If you need camera with flash, then defy. If you can live without flash and want a better video recorder, then SL.
Also, as i said, if ur afraid to mod, go for SL. If you are not, at the moment, Defy has more dev support than SL.
Usabilitywise, samsung is more user friendly IMO, plus the home screens are a lot more customizable.
I think defy prices will go down after a few days, but at current price, SL is more VFM(value for money).

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by detonator2359

so overall which one is better Defy or Samsung Galaxy SL..???

Except in build quality and low light photography, SGSL has upper hand over Defy. Not to forget that the modding community of Samsung is better than Motos

[detonator2359]

samsung is lil more delicate than defy...and can defy be overclocked..?? i m a rough phone user n which of the phone have better camera...??

[NainO]

^^^ Yup, Defy can be overclocked. And same goes for almost every android phone.

In still imagery defy has upperhand cuz of its LED flash.
And Galaxy SL is better in video recording thanks to its 720p video recording capability.

[aakashdave11]

think right now is the best time for under 20k buyers in the market.....
Though nobody mentioned Defy cam is not as good as that of SL .....
also Defy cannot record 720p video...though a guy at XDA modded it and did that....
One more thing is UI ....both suck one has to go and choose the one he/she finds the least sucking accordingly......

Android needs some serious dev help.....