Samsung Galaxy 3 vs LG Optimus One

[jetboy]

Guys while my hunt for a good budget andriod was just about to end on galaxy 3, suddenly LG have started playing with my mind again .

The phone which will really give a run for galaxy 3 would be LG optimus one. I feel if LG can come up with a good phone this time then this model will easily climb up to the most preferred budget andriod phone.

Check the below specs for LG optimus

LG Optimus One Price in India - LG P500 Price in India - LG Optimus One P500

I feel it definitely has a good look than G3. Also the screen advantage will help a lot(HVGA). I am not sure as to how much difference would it do for the proc being 67 mhz less.

I feel if LG has a good chance to show there potential with this phone lanch..Its going to be launched in this month..somewhere on 13th or 15th November 2010.

Lets discuss about it here..what say?


...Not to forget it will come with Froyo..So you can store your applications on the SD card..The internal memory of 170mb wont hurt much.

[Aditya11]

While inclusion of FroYo is delectable, LG Optimus One has following shortcomings:

- no Multi-touch input (thus, no pinch-zoom in browsers)
- only 256k colors (some apps, games may not support such low color depth / may not look good)
- no support for WiFi 'n' (WLAN speed suffers)
- no support for BlueTooth 3.0 (not future-proof)

Since I feel the screen resolution of G3 is adequate for almost all purposes, I don't see any immediate advantage of Optimus One. I am also not much sure about LG customer care / after sales support, though even Samsung doesn't exactly score there. I think with FroYo update and/or custom ROM (some guys are already working on it), Galaxy 3 would still prove superior to Optimus One. Its also given that Optimus One will cost more than 12k when it launches.

[Gollum]

Optimus has multitouch. But yeah bad colour space
LG Optimus One P500 Review | Mobile Phones | CNET UK
I Just hope apollo gets froyo

[Aditya11]

Optimus One has Multi-touch? Hmm. Gsmarena doesn't list it tho.

LG Optimus One P500 vs. Samsung I5801 Galaxy Apollo - GSMArena.com

Optimus One also doesn't support Flash, another drawback.

[jetboy]

Does it really put LG in minus score that even being HVGA display but just because ok256K it goes down and wont support applications?

I have read in GSMARENA, many users infact have reviews that games are more suited even on lg optimus G450 than galaxy 3. Wont optimus one do more justice than less?

If it supports more games then automatically it should also go for the apps too??

Are there any strong prrofs if G3 will be upgarded to 2.2 ?

cnet review says its very less likely that samsung will do it.

[NainO]

Yeah, Galaxy 3 will get froyo update. See this:
Froyo update rolling out for Galaxy S in the UK, Apollo is next - GSMArena.com news

And above comparisions:

GALAXY 3
Galaxy 3 only have plus point in havin wifi-n support.
But i dont know any place in my lacality with wifi-n. Although there may be some places with wifi-n at yours, but are they open network or need security code to enter???.

LG OPTIMUS ONE
Lets start
1. Better screen resolution
2. Better looks
3. Preloaded froyo
4. 512 MB RAM

Lets elaborate
About screen colour being 256K and not 16.7M, it should not be a big concern as colours and images are clear enough to look for. The main concern is poor resolution of Galaxy 3. I think a person spend more time viewing text than images and with poor resolution text on Galaxy 3 looks crippled, pixelated, blurry (you can guess more words yourself ). I have seen text on Galaxy 3(240*400) and Galaxy Spica(320*480), and the later one is more superior.
There are two versions of Galaxy 3- i5800 & i5801 aka Apollo. Although only Apollo is available in india with front mirror finish. This phone looks good only from BACK. But sadly the back is only visible to others(we the users have to face the front ). On the other hand Optimus One looks COOL.
Android eclairs users are waiting for froyo update for quite a long time. But Optimus One already have froyo, so NO WAITING.
Galaxy 3 has 256MB RAM, and this phone is said to be quite fast and snappy. But Optimus One has 512MB RAM(oooooo..... this thing is only available in high end android devices). I dont think it will be any slower than Galaxy 3.

About BLUETOOTH 3, indian version of Galaxy 3 dont have this it has the same old version 2.1(noooo.... Samsung cheated as )
All other features are same. And about 67 less MHz processor, do you really feel it will cause any performance difference???

And at the end an important notice- I M A GALAXY 3 OWNER.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by NainO

And at the end an important notice- I M A GALAXY 3 OWNER.

Who wants lg optimus. But samsung boasts a very good audio quality which is deemed as a dedicated mp3 player replacement. The review at gsmarena is quite detailed and this phone is certainly better than wildfire minus the 5mp camera.
I have a question though. Does this phone play 540p[640x480] video [divx and h264(avc3)]?
Or is conversion necessary to reduce the resolution. What is the max video playback resolution supported[lag free].

[NainO]

@redlofredlof

Yes, Galaxy 3 does support divx playback. Its video player is very capable. I have tried VGA(640*480, not 540p) resolution and it played flawlessly. And i think it can play video upto 480p(720*480).

About the review, yes gsmarena praised this device. Its loadspeaker is nothing the type of extraordinary, but still is decent.
But different sites has different views. Consider phonearena.c0m, they seemed to be not pleased by this phone.
About comparisions, gsmarena users can vote for phones on basis of - design, feature and performance. Galaxy 3 have 8.3 in features and 8.2 in other two, on the other hand Optimus One hav 8.5+ rating in all three. So, the users say its better than Galaxy 3.

I know LG's mobiles cannot be trusted, but sometimes miracle happens .

[Aditya11]

Originally Posted by NainO

And above comparisions:

GALAXY 3
Galaxy 3 only have plus point in havin wifi-n support.
But i dont know any place in my lacality with wifi-n. Although there may be some places with wifi-n at yours, but are they open network or need security code to enter???.

WiFi-n is not used only OUTDOORS but proves IMMENSELY helpful INDOORS as well. Of course you will need a router which supports 'n' standard.

Originally Posted by NainO

LG OPTIMUS ONE
Lets start
1. Better screen resolution
2. Better looks
3. Preloaded froyo
4. 512 MB RAM

'Better looks' is highly subjective thing. I am surprised that you find the back of Galaxy 3 "attractive", whereas IMO, its just cheap plastic. Front, on the other hand, appears classy, at least from afar.

Originally Posted by NainO

Lets elaborate
About screen colour being 256K and not 16.7M, it should not be a big concern as colours and images are clear enough to look for.

Cnet review says the icons look ugly and the phone is just 'boring'. I blame 256k color depth.

Originally Posted by NainO

The main concern is poor resolution of Galaxy 3. I think a person spend more time viewing text than images and with poor resolution text on Galaxy 3 looks crippled, pixelated, blurry (you can guess more words yourself ).

Nope. Its not as bad as you make it out to be. And certainly images, icons and graphics is just as important as text in the overall smartphone usage. Then again, the 256k colors anyways take away much of the display shine.

Originally Posted by NainO

Android eclairs users are waiting for froyo update for quite a long time. But Optimus One already have froyo, so NO WAITING.

That's the ONLY advantage Optimus One has ATM, but one has to compromise on other things, which IMO, are fairly important. Also, its confirmed that G3 is getting FroYo update.

Originally Posted by NainO

All other features are same. And about 67 less MHz processor, do you really feel it will cause any performance difference???

Its the battle between 667 MHz 256 MB RAM Vs 600 MHz 512 MB RAM. Cant say which will prove consistently superior. Also, as someone said above, the multimedia performance of Samsung is generally superior than other brands.

[jetboy]

@Aditya11,NainO: I very well know you both are proud owners of G3. I have also seen your website Aditya and have also replied to it..(the second post of anonymous user :-P). I also know that you both will be able to let me know as of how the G3 model works. Believe me I was about to get the same one a week ago, but after looking at this P500 model I very much felt like waiting for it.

So please provide me replies about LG forgetting that you are a G3 owner :-P.

Can anyone tell me what LG uses for its UI like Samsung uses touchwiz, HTC uses sense UI and is it good in compare to samsung's touchwiz.

A silly question here. Can an UI be changed if we dont like it ?


I should say..LG optimus one definitely looks better than G3 front and back

[NainO]

Originally Posted by Aditya11

WiFi-n is not used only OUTDOORS but proves IMMENSELY helpful INDOORS as well. Of course you will need a router which supports 'n' standard.

Yeah, it will be great for someone having wifi-n router at home or indoors. But i feel, "that"someone will prefer using laptop or PC over phone

'Better looks' is highly subjective thing. I am surprised that you find the back of Galaxy 3 "attractive", whereas IMO, its just cheap plastic. Front, on the other hand, appears classy, at least from afar.

Take a look at my post again, i think i mentioned looks not sturdiness. Yes, back part is "cheap" plastic but front part too dont seems to be any "costly" and "classy".
And i m surprised to know that you find Galaxy 3 more appealing than LG Optimus One. Even jetboy agree with this.
Just like virtual qwerty on a touchscreen cant replace a hardware qwerty, same goes for having physical buttons over capacitive ones.

Cnet review says the icons look ugly and the phone is just 'boring'. I blame 256k color depth.

If you look back in past, nearly all phones came up with same colour depth like Nokia N73, T-Mobile Pulse and Galaxy i7500. And nobody did ever complaint about their colour sharpness.

Its not as bad as you make it out to be. And certainly images, icons and graphics is just as important as text in the overall smartphone usage. Then again, the 256k colors anyways take away much of the display shine.

Actually it is. The images are good when they are appreciably big, but same thing dont hold with small ones.
Consider this example, when screen is locked a small media player can be accessed to pause/forward/backward. It also displays semi circle album art, an it looks pretty much pixelated.

Its the battle between 667 MHz 256 MB RAM Vs 600 MHz 512 MB RAM. Cant say which will prove consistently superior. Also, as someone said above, the multimedia performance of Samsung is generally superior than other brands.

Consider this:
Android market has an app called BenchmarkPi, it displays the benchmark of devices. Here is performance of three phones:
Samsung Galaxy Spica(128MB RAM, 800 MHz): ~11000 millisecs
Samsung Galaxy 3(256MB RAM, 667 MHz): ~9200 millisecs
HTC Aria(384MB RAM, 600 MHz, Android eclairs): ~5200 millisecs
Note: Lower millisecs are better.
Lg Optimus One specs are even better than HTC Aria. So, its a proof that Optimus one is faster and more snappy.

But Samsung is better in Multimedia.

Thank You

[Aditya11]

Originally Posted by jetboy

A silly question here. Can an UI be changed if we dont like it ?

Of course. There are a number of apps such as Launcher Pro, ADW etc which lets you customize the UI as per your liking.

Originally Posted by NainO

Yeah, it will be great for someone having wifi-n router at home or indoors. But i feel, "that"someone will prefer using laptop or PC over phone

Not necessarily, when smartphones are fast replacing laptops / netbooks. Then again, laptops can be used even outdoors, so this point is moot. Main point is, having WiFi-n is a definitive advantage, whether indoors or outdoors.

Originally Posted by NainO

Take a look at my post again, i think i mentioned looks not sturdiness. Yes, back part is "cheap" plastic but front part too dont seems to be any "costly" and "classy".

I too didn't mention sturdiness. LOOKWISE too, the plastic panel doesn't look impressive.

Originally Posted by NainO

And i m surprised to know that you find Galaxy 3 more appealing than LG Optimus One. Even jetboy agree with this.

No, i didn't compare G3 with Optimus One in terms of front panel looks. I said it simply looks classy, on its own. Since looks part is anwyays subjective, anyone else agreeing or disagreeing about this is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by NainO

Just like virtual qwerty on a touchscreen cant replace a hardware qwerty, same goes for having physical buttons over capacitive ones.

Matter of preference. There is a reason why many new smartphones are omitting physical buttons these days.

Originally Posted by NainO

If you look back in past, nearly all phones came up with same colour depth like Nokia N73, T-Mobile Pulse and Galaxy i7500. And nobody did ever complaint about their colour sharpness.

Are you sure? People adjusted to it because those phones offered tremendous VFM. Also, what held true in the past shouldn't blindly be carried forward when better alternatives are available.

Originally Posted by NainO

Consider this example, when screen is locked a small media player can be accessed to pause/forward/backward. It also displays semi circle album art, an it looks pretty much pixelated.

Never experienced this. May be you would like to post a screen shot.

Originally Posted by NainO

Consider this:
Android market has an app called BenchmarkPi, it displays the benchmark of devices. Here is performance of three phones:
Samsung Galaxy Spica(128MB RAM, 800 MHz): ~11000 millisecs
Samsung Galaxy 3(256MB RAM, 667 MHz): ~9200 millisecs
HTC Gratia(512MB RAM,600 MHz): ~5700 millisecs
Note: Lower millisecs are better.
Lg Optimus One specs are same as of HTC Gratia. So, its a proof that Optimus one is faster and more snappy.

That benchmark merely calculates the amount of time it takes to calculate Pi results. Such synthetic benchmarks do not always accurately reflect real-time performance. Not to mention, since Optimus One runs FroYo, the performance gets enhanced.

Originally Posted by NainO

But Samsung is better in Multimedia.

Indeed. And after telephony, multimedia performance should be the deciding factor for a smartphone purchase, IMO.

Originally Posted by NainO

Thank You

You are welcome!

[NainO]

jetboy, you decide it yourself
Decide considering these points:
1. Better Colour with Low Resolution(G3) or Better Resolution with Low Colour(O1).
2. WIFI n with HSDPA 3.6mbps(G3) or HSDPA 7.2mbps with no WIFI n(O1).
3. Faster 667MHz CPU with 256MB RAM(G3) or 600MHz CPU with 512MB RAM(O1).
4. Capacitive buttons(G3) or Hardware buttons(O1).
5. Better BrandName with Mediocre Looks(G3) or Better Looks with Mediocre BrandName(O1).
6. Excelent Multimedia Expirience(G3) or Good Multimedia Experience(O1).

Mine and Aditya's previous posts describes these phones pros and cons in detail.
Aditya you can add some more points above

Every one please vote...
I vote for LG Optimus One.

[Gollum]

Optimus has a virtual keypad that is not very good but sg3 has swype technology with which you don't need to tap on the screen but just swipe your finger over the screen and the phone recognises the words. Pretty cool feature imo.

[jetboy]

+1 for Lg Optimus One

I have also added a Poll. Can you please vote NainO and Aditya

Originally Posted by NainO

jetboy, you decide it yourself
Decide considering these points:
1. Better Colour with Low Resolution(G3) or Better Resolution with Low Colour(O1).
2. WIFI n with HSDPA 3.6mbps(G3) or HSDPA 7.2mbps with no WIFI n(O1).
3. Faster 667MHz CPU with 256MB RAM(G3) or 600MHz CPU with 512MB RAM(O1).
4. Capacitive buttons(G3) or Hardware buttons(O1).
5. Better BrandName with Mediocre Looks(G3) or Better Looks with Mediocre BrandName(O1).
6. Excelent Multimedia Expirience(G3) or Good Multimedia Experience(O1).

Mine and Aditya's previous posts describes these phones pros and cons in detail.
Aditya you can add some more points above

Every one please vote...
I vote for LG Optimus One.

Originally Posted by Gollum

Optimus has a virtual keypad that is not very good but sg3 has swype technology with which you don't need to tap on the screen but just swipe your finger over the screen and the phone recognises the words. Pretty cool feature imo.

Does a phone goes in "not good" or "bad" if it does'nt have swype technology? How many Andriod phone have that? Do Desire, legend or any other popular andriod phone have that?

[desiibond]

I never really liked or trusted LG phones. Among these two, I would go for G3. And I think SE X8 is a better deal when compared to Optimus One. Actually, I would go for neither of these two. Optimus has minute amount of ROM and onboard memory while G3's display sucks. My pick would be sub15k S^3 device.

[Aditya11]

Originally Posted by jetboy

+1 for Lg Optimus One

I have also added a Poll. Can you please vote NainO and Aditya

I voted for G3, obviously, but the question needs to be better phrased.

You ask: "Which one will be the next best VFM Andriod?" The 'next best' part assumes knowledge of 'previous best', which may not be the case with everyone. Simply asking "which one of these two is the best VFM Android?" will do! Sorry for nitpicking, but due to my profession, I am habitual to look into details!

Originally Posted by jetboy

Does a phone goes in "not good" or "bad" if it does'nt have swype technology? How many Andriod phone have that? Do Desire, legend or any other popular andriod phone have that?

I think he meant the inclusion of good software such as Swype is a plus point for G3. Galaxy S comes with Swype too.

[NainO]

Originally Posted by jetboy

Does a phone goes in "not good" or "bad" if it does'nt have swype technology? How many Andriod phone have that? Do Desire, legend or any other popular andriod phone have that?

Every android phone is provided with android onscreen keyboard. Both Optimus One and Galaxy 3 has this, but Galaxy 3 has an extra input method SWYPE INPUT METHOD.
This feature is only provided with samsung products. In this feature one can type by dragging its fingers on screen and tracing all the word to be typed in one go, rather than tapping on every letter.
This is a cool input method and requires alot of time to get used to. So, not having swype input doesnt bring a device to either bad or not good category.

And no HTC phone hav this feature.

Originally Posted by desiibond

And I think SE X8 is a better deal when compared to Optimus One.

Optimus has minute amount of ROM and onboard memory while G3's display sucks.

Yeah, G3 display sucks.

But X8 has
1. less onboard memory, around 128MB where Optimus One hav 170.
2. No multitouch support.
3. Small screen
4. 1.6 android version
And as far as low ROM goes, this shud not be a concern as the main use of ROM is to store OS on phone and O1 already has froyo 2.2. Both G3 and O1 can not be further upgraded to 2.3, cuz this OS needs 1GHz proccessor as a requirement.

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by NainO

Every android phone is provided with android onscreen keyboard. Both Optimus One and Galaxy 3 has this, but Galaxy 3 has an extra input method SWYPE INPUT METHOD.
This feature is only provided with samsung products. In this feature one can type by dragging its fingers on screen and tracing all the word to be typed in one go, rather than tapping on every letter.
This is a cool input method and requires alot of time to get used to. So, not having swype input doesnt bring a device to either bad or not good category.

And no HTC phone hav this feature.



Yeah, G3 display sucks.

But X8 has
1. less onboard memory, around 128MB where Optimus One hav 170.
2. No multitouch support.
3. Small screen
4. 1.6 android version
And as far as low ROM goes, this shud not be a concern as the main use of ROM is to store OS on phone and O1 already has froyo 2.2. Both G3 and O1 can not be further upgraded to 2.3, cuz this OS needs 1GHz proccessor as a requirement.

swype can be installed by registering at beta.swype.com. Every now and then, few beta licenses are released for use. I was using the same on Legend.

comeing X8. SE is rolling out 2.1 updates for Xperia series of phones. Even with 128MB onboard memory, thanks to the proper resolution, it should be a good experience. Do remember that users of Spica were happy even with 128MB onboard memory.

also, the 1GHz cpu requirement for gingerbread was purely a rumor. OHA is trying to push Android to midrange devices which means that gingerbread should run better on midrange phones with weak CPU when compared to earlier versions.

[NainO]

Originally Posted by desiibond

swype can be installed by registering at beta.swype.com. Every now and then, few beta licenses are released for use. I was using the same on Legend.

comeing X8. SE is rolling out 2.1 updates for Xperia series of phones. Even with 128MB onboard memory, thanks to the proper resolution, it should be a good experience. Do remember that users of Spica were happy even with 128MB onboard memory.

also, the 1GHz cpu requirement for gingerbread was purely a rumor. OHA is trying to push Android to midrange devices which means that gingerbread should run better on midrange phones with weak CPU when compared to earlier versions.

Swype on legend!!! WOW!!! I didnt knew that, thanx. But "was" using, why?

Sorry. You were actually refering to RAM, i misunderstood it to inbuilt memory . I think, x8 has 256 and O1 has 512 MB of RAM and twice of RAM shud make a difference. And resolution of both phones are same. Also x8 wont be getting froyo.
Yeah Spica was even better than G3 in many aspects.

Thanx for clearifying the rumor...

[comrade]

Using G3 for a week and more and I would say it's a pretty decent buy.

The screen resolution isn't bad for reading or browsing(with pinch zoom) and none of the apps I tried from android market has got to complain anything or incompatibility with the screen.

And coming to the battery life, yes it does drains if the addons are enabled. There is a power control widget on my homescreen with which I manage the connecting mode/brightness/etc. It serves me well atleast providing 2 days backup before I was asked to connect the charger.

Unlike symbian it never gets slowdown with the amount of apps installed. My phone almost exhausted its internal storage. Bluetooth is only 2.1, no or zero screen visibility in sunlight,no call attend button are some rip offs.
Overall a better phone in its category if not the best.

[blacklight]

check this out
Techtree.com India > Features > Comparing Android Touch Phones Under Rs. 20K

[R2K]

how much does these phones cost.........
Samsung Galaxy 3
LG Optimus One
i lost my phone and i am looking out for a new one

[jetboy]

Originally Posted by R2K

how much does these phones cost.........
Samsung Galaxy 3
LG Optimus One
i lost my phone and i am looking out for a new one

Samsung G3: 10,500-11,000 (a bit variation)
LG optimus one(P500) : I guess its going to get launched on 15th November 2010..Should be within 13K

Originally Posted by blacklight

check this out
Techtree.com India > Features > Comparing Android Touch Phones Under Rs. 20K

Nice find!! P500 is certainly termed as a promising component and samsung G3 has less rating... just waiting for the full review of LG optimus!!!!!!

[NainO]

OPTIMUS ONE RELEASED!!!
13K and performs better than Galaxy 3...

LG Optimus One P500 Value for - Latest Mobile Phone Price | Review & Feature in India

I hav made a new thread about it in mobile monsters!!!
Lets discuss everything else there

[ssb1551]

Vote for Optimus One("got a nice ring to it")...Other than tht too my vote goes to O1!!

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by NainO

OPTIMUS ONE RELEASED!!!
13K and performs better than Galaxy 3...

LG Optimus One P500 Value for - Latest Mobile Phone Price | Review & Feature in India

I hav made a new thread about it in mobile monsters!!!
Lets discuss everything else there

i foind the ultimate review of both phones and the winner is galaxy3
main points of win
1. G3 can play 720*480 standard definition video (all formats)
2. G3 has a special sound chip and a cool music player interface which allows player controls wven if the screen is locked.
3. Thw camera of g3 offers many options to play with.
4. Picture viewer is quite cool.
5. 667mhz cpu is quite powerful for 240*400 screen resolution.

Now comes optimus one
1. Cannot play 720*480 sd video
2. Music player is the default android one which is pretty bland and clunky. Sound quality is not great either.
3. Camera does not give yoi much optons.
4. Picture viewer is also very basic.
5. 600mhz cpu is not good enough for 320*480 screen.

[NainO]

@gollum
Cud you please post the the link to this "ultimate review" of yours

[Gollum]

I'm trying dude. Its nota pc that i'm using. Will surely post as soon as i open up opera mini and write down the url on paper cause om does not allow me to copy.

Here,
LG Optimus One review from TechRadar UK's expert reviews of Mobile phones
mind it that these people gave a pretty bad verdict on g3 but optimus had worse lol

[NainO]

techredar is expecting too much from a low end android phone
They even dont find 320*480 resolution adequate :-Q

Guess you and me are same: we are bothing using mobiles to post