Nokia N8:Will You W8 For It??? Cybernautes

[tarundham]

General

2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 2100 / 1900
Announced
2010, April
Status
Coming soon. Exp. release 2010, October

Read More At:CyBeR nAuTéS: Nokia N8:Will You W8 For It???

[desiibond]

nah. It's literally blown away by Droid X superiority in h/w and s/w. so, am waiting for droid X's GSM variant

[gagan007]

well as a Nokia loyalist I am awaiting its release. Will plan to buy only after reading first hand experiences of the owners (honestly I do not trust reviews on the most of the tech sites on the web as most of them are biased!)

[Hrithan2020]

Seems kind of a letdown from the 600 Mhz ARM A8 processor that, N900 had...
Let's see... (I'd think apart from the camera, everything else might feel outdated... )

Still for 24k, (Its earlier price guesstimation, now it seems to have increased to 28k ) , it would still have been a much better buy over the likes of Satio. (for pure camera lovers, in fact, a friend of mine bought the Satio just for the camera.. )

[suyash_123]

+1 for Nokia N8

See New MOdels from Nokia In Market E7,C6-01,C7.

[gagan007]

Suyash, what desiibond and Hrithan2020 are trying to say is that Nokia is still miles behind when it comes to better hardware. Maybe it is Nokia's policy to keep lower spec h/w to keep the cost of a handset lower.

Whichever Nokia model you pick from the market, its h/w config will be lower than the iPhone4, latest Motorola, Samsung and HTC handsets (but for a simple reason that Android/iOS4 need more processing power thus more juice)

What I am waiting for is the first hand experience of ppl. Whether is it really slow while carrying out day to days task.

[sujoyp]

I would have loved it but the UI is fail....it looks 80% same as old symbian...same icons

[Hrithan2020]

@sujoyp,
Nokia still seems to play it safe. (their reasoning being that a majority of their user base would be familiar with the old layouts/icons...).

@gagan07,
Them sporting a 400-600 Mhz ARM A8 processor wouldn't have worried me. (considering that clock-for-clock, A8-based processors are,almost 80% faster than the ancient ARM11 processor, should also mean that it would be much more power-efficient.)

Sticking to a lower-clocked A8 would have been a much better idea, if they were aiming to lower power consumption, thus making the battery life higher.

Maybe, their intention is to target the mainstream market, after all?. (lnitially pricing the phone high to cash-in on the hype, then aggressively lowering the prices, 3-4 months after launch.)

[sujoyp]

@Hrithan2020 yaah u r right that ....but if u have ever used sonyericsson phones u would easily see the animated effects and 3d icons...Symbain phones r soo dull with poor animations and plain icons..

Nokia always target the mainstream that is the reason for their huge sales...
if they price it at 24k now...it will be best to get it after 6 months at 18k with firmware updates

[Hrithan2020]

@sujoyp,
I agree that (well, at least for me), the icons/layouts seem dull. I was just citing one of the reasons Nokia says it wants to stick to it. (Also, considering the anemic CPU-GPU's their predecessors spotted, it might be justified.)

Maybe, even now,(Nokia N8) with its reasonably powerful GPU, a more 3-D centric attractive UI, unless properly coded to use GPU, might have performed slow. Also, considering that there are lots of lower-end phones which may sport even more pitiful CPU-GPU combo, may not have been able to keep up with it.

Overall, a fast and snappy UI, should be preferred over a great-looking,but extremely slow one. So, if that indeed were the case, Nokia's decision makes sense.

I too think that at 24k, and with further price reductions after, it'll have really good sales ,at least in India. (where there still are lots of users who prefer only Nokia phones).
But, at Rs 28k (its rumoured price now), it might be a tough sell to some.

[sujoyp]

@28k its not a good buy...there r much powerful mobiles costing less then that...
I know people had bought N97 for 33k and cried later ...

I would say again its better not to buy the N8's 1st lot coz it would be definitely buggy(like all the symbian OS) and would need firmware updates later...better wait for 2-3 months

[Hrithan2020]

Yeah, but for Nokia to regain its foothold in the high-end market, it needs to be good enough on debut itself. (Maybe, that's why it took so long for them, to release a 12 MP mobile ? )

[Zangetsu]

N8 looks good...& in camera department it beats hell lot frm others phones...
hardware wise i cant comment.....coz HTC is using the best hw.....
1GHz snapdragon processor.....wow

[gagan007]

agree with both of u.at 31K (converted to INR) N8 will not be a good choice at all.

[Hrithan2020]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

N8 looks good...& in camera department it beats hell lot frm others phones...
hardware wise i cant comment.....coz HTC is using the best hw.....
1GHz snapdragon processor.....wow

FYI, Samsung is having the best hardware wise (CPU+GPU), with their Galaxy S lineup, Epic 4G.

The newer Snapdragon processors, which the HTC Desire HD is sporting should come second. (Adreno 205- reportedly been several times faster than Adreno 200, which the older ones had)

@gagan007,
Where did you get that info? The unlocked price for Nokia N8 is 549 USD, which would come to below Rs 26k. If it is Rs 31k, it may prove a tough ask for even some Nokia fans ?

Btw, Nokia E7 (unfortunately not going to be released this year, it seems), looks great, doesn't it ?

[sujoyp]

E7,C7 all r great but y didnt nokia put autofocus in their cams...SE vivaz have focus even in videos

The new mobiles look great...but what about meego and symbian 4 OS...no announcement for that

[gagan007]

I read this article:
http://mashable.com/2010/09/08/nokia...ing-september/ and found that it is priced at $662 (which may not be accurately assumed to be launched in India with the price band but I just guessed)...

Moreover, I think it is further delayed in UK...
Top10.com » News » Nokia N8 release date delayed again

[Hrithan2020]

@sujoyp,
Are you sure? In the previews, and specs sheet, both E7 and C7 sports autofocus in their cams.

Also, regarding the focus in videos, Nokia N8 comes with Active Hyper Focal Distance system,which supposedly, is better than the continuous auto focus on Vivaz. (Except probably at close distances)

It seems that both Meego and Symbian 4, is long way in the offing. I am expecting to see, Meego devices, only by the time Intel Menlow (32 nm, full SOC) processors come out...

[suyash_123]

My god!!!
Again N8 is Postponed!!!

What the Hell Nokia is doing?
It is already to late ........

and when they will launch And came to India There will be a new phones from Other vendors having Superior Configuration

Like 12Mp cam Flash and etc.

Nokia Will Lose there Power and share In smart-phone market!! if they repetesdly do this......

[sujoyp]

Originally Posted by Hrithan2020

@sujoyp,
Are you sure? In the previews, and specs sheet, both E7 and C7 sports autofocus in their cams.

Also, regarding the focus in videos, Nokia N8 comes with Active Hyper Focal Distance system,which supposedly, is better than the continuous auto focus on Vivaz. (Except probably at close distances)

What I read in gsmarena article about hands-on of E7 and C7 are

The Nokia E7 highlights list continue with an 8MP camera with dual-LED flash, 720p video capture, and 16GB of built-in storage. Unfortunately though, it turned out that the promising shooter is lacking autofocus, which takes some of the fun out.

Much like the E7 however, Nokia C7 lacks autofocus and relies on the so-called full-focus (or extended depth of field) instead. Yet this doesn't allow photographing objects that a less than a meter away from the camera so it's by far not the real thing.

And yes N8 is definitely better then Vivaz in every aspect...

[Hrithan2020]

Thanks, sujoyp. Guess some of the sites, have their info wrong..

It is quite sad, that Nokia N8 was delayed, not because it will be bested by any competitor.(don't think there'd be any other comparable 12 MP camera coming from its competitors at least this quarter). It means that the possibility of it being a polished,smooth relatively bug-free device at its launch should be even lower

So,we can expect basically a slightly buggy, though extremely good camera phone, which probably is much better than N97, but no where near competition, at launch....

@gagan007,
The price , I found, was the US Price. Am surprised, there is such a huge difference in prices between UK and US..Hm..

[dreamcatcher]

There wont be a similar phone this quarter but there would be one with SE's xmos lens,1080p recording and 12.2 cam by Jan.

[Hrithan2020]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

There wont be a similar phone this quarter but there would be one with SE's xmos lens,1080p recording and 12.2 cam by Jan.

That's news to me!! Thanks. Impressive, I should say, though of no use to me. (That means the processor for this mobile, should also be quite good,
unlike the N8's, I guess)

I searched and couldn't find any details regarding this phone. I am surprised that it doesn't seem in the news..(In fact, apart from HTC saying to expect 1080p recording capable tablets and smartphones in the latter half of 2011, I hadn't read anything regarding it)

[sujoyp]

SE news is still in rumor stage...I can give u links
Sony Ericsson prepping 1.2GHz Android smartphone with 12MP camera & 1080p video? | My Tech Logs

Sony Ericsson prepping 1.2GHz Android smartphone with 12MP camera & 1080p video? | Xperia X10 Blog

But treat it as a rumor for now

[Hrithan2020]

Thanks for the link

[dreamcatcher]

@sujop- Thats X11. SE's Win 7 phone with 1.2 ghz proccy. The blog seems ill informed. The X12 or the X10 successor shall have a OMAP4440 1.5ghz processor with 1080p recording and 12.2 mp cam and a 720p screen.

[sujoyp]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

@sujop- Thats X11. SE's Win 7 phone with 1.2 ghz proccy. The blog seems ill informed. The X12 or the X10 successor shall have a OMAP4440 1.5ghz processor with 1080p recording and 12.2 mp cam and a 720p screen.

hey link please...I would love to see it...I hope all goes well for SE

[nikhilpai]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

There wont be a similar phone this quarter but there would be one with SE's xmos lens,1080p recording and 12.2 cam by Jan.

And it would be running Android 1.6 ???

[yogi7272]

@nikhilpai- Nope. It will be having Android 2.1 when all other HTC and Samsung devices will be having Android 3.0 and then SE will promise to bring Android 2.2 in the second half of 2012

[sujoyp]

hey SE already said that its working on a android gaming phone for next year which will have gingerbread AKA android 3