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27-08-2010, 05:49 PM #241Apprentice
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@Webwizzy, Froyo update is not yet available for India
@sam9s: the feature that you are talking about uses motion sensors. Any phone with an accelerometer can do that. Even my Nokia E72 had that feature.
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27-08-2010, 06:26 PM #242
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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27-08-2010, 08:19 PM #243Right Off the Assembly Line
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@akshat1301
There is one game which comes pre-installed. It is called Teeter, basically a ball game which uses accelerometer.
@webwizzy
1. I read at quite a few places that its suppose to ship with a 4gb card, how come its 2gb then?
--> It is 2 gigs as of now. It is also mentioned in the content section on the box. I guess because of the price, HTC decided to lower the specs.
2. What class is the card? 2.0?
--> Seriously, I don't know. Only thing written on the card is MicroSD, 2 GB & Samsung. Data transfer from PC to Card was always at 20 MBps upward.
3. Did you notice ANY kind of problem yet?
--> Yes a major one, will follow in this post.
4. What happens when you "check for updates", can it find froyo?
--> The phone was unable to update to froyo. It appears to be "up to date".
@kalpik
We know that opinion is like a hole in the ass, everybody has one, But this doesn't mean you should start poking your nose (or hole) everywhere.
You are not required here, can't you get it by yourself? Do we have to 'specifically' ask you to stop poking around here.
Part of what you are doing here is also called spamming... why, because you are posting unnecessarily. You just want your number of post to be higher than god knows "whosoever". Mind it, Quality counts, not quantity.
Well, now you know what to do.
Maybe, resume your "Pursuit for Happyness", I guess.
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About the problem in the phone:
There are 5 white spots on the screen which are visible on white background (try opening the internet browser for white background). One of them is very clear and for others the screen has to be tilted.. I guess this is a manufacturing defect. Something sharp on inside is touching the rear side of LCD. I spoke to some guy at HTC's Kalkaji (Delhi) service centre. He said they'll check the phone and issue a certificate for a new piece, only if the problem is for real.
Well, lets hope this is just with my piece.
Following are the pics of the white spot. The camera from which these pics were taken was not that good and you guys might have to struggle to see it.
Imageshack - photo0119l.jpg
Imageshack - photo0116s.jpg
BBLLast edited by anandchawla; 27-08-2010 at 08:27 PM.
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27-08-2010, 08:44 PM #244
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******all hail to the smartest dude on planet with green attitude written all over it ....*******
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I know what accelerometer and proximity senser is ...... but the point is how smartly it can be used to work with the UI, ........anyway......you say picking up the handset and the ringtone subsides ?? you have this in E72 ..... I have E75 and iPhone 3G as well can you point me to enable this feature in both coz when I pick up the handset (E75 or iPhone) the ringtone volume is same through out until you click / slide to start the conversation .............Last edited by sam9s; 27-08-2010 at 09:40 PM.
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27-08-2010, 08:46 PM #245
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I have half a mind of banning you on account of the language you're using here.. But since you're new here, and new to the Internet and forums it seems, ill let it pass.. But just try that one more time, and you'll know my patience doesn't last long..
And yeah, I was called back into this thread.. I had left it to be a long time ago! As I said, my mistake I came back.. Anyway, I'm out.. Enjoy!Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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27-08-2010, 09:33 PM #246
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Well I wont add anything as anandchawla has said every thing PERFECTLY!!!. but anyway I can see where you are coming from and it does not take an Einstein brain to judge what the post count and the green stamp has done to your already crappy attitude .......
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You see thats how you deal with people, literally blackmailing them ,,,,lol ...... actually shows your character, I wonder how far can you go with this arrogant attitude of yours in real life ......
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Anyway lest move on to some more "relevent" discuession ..
First Impressions continues but this time the Negatives ...
1. The speaker phone quality is crap if you ask me, its so sharp and shrill that you hardly understand the person, dropping down the volume helps a little but basically its not good. iPhone speaker phone quality is too good.
2. The switch on/off button which is placed at the top is also used to bring the display/phone back when it goes to stand by, and that is a bit irritating as when you are holding the phone in your left hand and your right hand is busy, say driving, and the phone goes in to stand by mode, it becomes really difficult to press the top button by your fore finger while holding the phone the conventional way ......
3. The phone syncs with you Google contact, and if you have the same contacts in your SIM, you have duplicates ...... not good.
This is it for now ..... first impressions will continue, following up with a detailed review .....Last edited by sam9s; 28-08-2010 at 12:46 AM.
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27-08-2010, 11:55 PM #247
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Everyone is entitled of an opinion here because this is a forum. You, kalpik, the guy who bought the phone everyone is entitled. There have been numerous differences in opinion between members in this forum & thats what makes this vibrant. But the language you used is not the language TDFians normally use. Just because someone has bought a phone and a group of people are hobnobbing over it doesn't mean that someone else cannot come and post. This is not a cartel. All of us are here to discuss and share so let us keep it that way. If the CoC of the forum is violated the moderator is well within his rights to issue a warning.
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28-08-2010, 12:05 AM #248Apprentice
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I am not sure if the E75 even has the accelerometer. But on my E72, there was a feature where in if I turn the phone the ringer would go on silent automatically - very similar to what HTC has on the desire.
I did not find this an issue at all. The phone is very comfortable to use. I even lock-unlock it in the crowded Mumbai Locals (when I get a bit of arm-space)
To your second point, its a configuration issue. In your People application you can select which contacts to be displayed. I would really suggest you hold back on the negatives of the phone until after you have tried all options and played enough with the phone. Lets not give a wrong impression to the potential buyers of this phone...!
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28-08-2010, 12:11 AM #249Right Off the Assembly Line
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@Kalpik, I signed-up to this forum only to say that you have a sick attitude. I dont know how you became a mod (is it cos of the post count??). From a glance to this thread, I see that you own a SGS. Great!! But it does not mean that everyone will like it. I personally hate the SGS cos it looks like a cheapo chinese/korean phone. Some (or too many of your posts below) that I find interesting.....
Ok. Specs maybe better. But on a day to day use they dont matter....
Ok you brilliant guy, you got plenty of technical details thrown in about the SGS. But no GPU in Desire? Playing games impossible? Have you seen the snapdragon optimized NFS shift on the desire???
Ok.. got closed automaatically.... benefit of doubt to you......
Ok..great benchmark.. how does it matter on a day to day usage? And gaming in android is just begenning. It's not anywhere near where the GPU is going to get pushed. All the lags and issues with games today are due to poor optimization. GPU is not a bottleneck...yet. But having said that,3-6 months down the line, things might improve. But developers will never target only one phone....there simply wont be enough revenue...and Desire is not so down the ladder, it's second to SGS and there are many more devices below it. Games will be made to be run on as many devices as possible..
Why would you say that? You need to hack the galaxy otherwise it works like *hit. Desire comes much more polished. No need to hack the device unless you want to experiment with things. Desire will do the job very very well for most of the users
OOOOhhhhh... others are childish and you are the only grown up person here?? Well take a break. I see that you are childish and keep saying the same things over and over again....
Well... who asked you to come in here first?? You poke your A$$ inside, think you are the most knowledgeable in this subject and have the cheek to say others are childish....
Will you please let each one have their opinion.... you are litreally forcing your "knowlegeable" thoughts on others...
hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa.... You prefer SGS design over Nexus One??? Cos you own an SGS and cant accept it;s not built like a 27K phone
Yeah you too my boy... Live your own dream world... These forums would be a much better place without you around...
I give a damn to what you think.....
So you basically advocate everyone to root....and this thread is full of noobs according to you.. If some "noob" bricks their device while loading custom roms, you will set it right for them?? You'll further say you noob rooting and hacking is not for you... It's only for "geeks" like me....
So what...samsung makes good chips and good rams...but i'm free to buy what i want..
And you have come to enlighten the noobs and save the world with your "Everyone should buy the SGS" attitude
Arrogance @ it's best.
So what? forums are to help others and share knowledge. The OP tries to chip in and do his bit. If you can, help others.. else shut up.
If you irritate people like this, then they will get frustrated. Understand! Why the hell should a user be at your mercy in browsing the forum?? You are a mod. behave like one. It needs a lot of resposibility and sense.You dont have both. Understand your role properly.. It's moderation.. not dictatorship.
I like the desire more than the SGS cos I feel it'll suit my need better. People have different needs. Understand that. not everyone will need "the best GPU for android". SGS will suit for some people and if they are happy, they will go for it.
I have been irritated by your attitude, that I sign-up specifically to put up this long post. And it's not only me whos saying it. I see you as an arrogant,forceful,imposing person with poor attitude and absolutely no respect to fellow members.
I still wonder who made you a mod here. is there any place here where I can report a mod??
Being a mod does not mean you are always right. Let this forum alone and get lost to hell..... FANBOY.
If you dont have the attitude to accept this, Ban me and delete the post. I care a DAMN. There are others in the forum who'll notice your attitde.
Others: Sorry for such a big OT post. Could not help it....
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28-08-2010, 12:40 AM #250
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E75 has the accelerometer albeit a very crappy one .......but it does not mute the ringer when the set is placed up side down. Anyway it was not the first point, it was the second one that actually impressed me, is it there in E72, or is it there in GS. When you pick the handset the phone knows that the set has been picked and lowers the ringtone gradually to a very low audible one ......
Its not an issue, when both of your hands are free, I am talking about when you are holding the phone with your left hand (the way we do) and your right hand is not free (ex driving) then it becomes difficult to press the button on top to bring the phone back .......I did not find this an issue at all. The phone is very comfortable to use. I even lock-unlock it in the crowded Mumbai Locals (when I get a bit of arm-space)
Yes I know what you mean I have fiddled around the phone quite a bit. Though you can choose which contacts to view, the problem comes when you wanna see both. Why?? say because you have contact A and B in Google and only B in phone memory as well and you want to view both A and B. In this scenario you have to choose to view Google contacts and Phone Contacts as well, which in turn would show your B contact twice along with your A. Got my point.....To your second point, its a configuration issue. In your People application you can select which contacts to be displayed. I would really suggest you hold back on the negatives of the phone until after you have tried all options and played enough with the phone. Lets not give a wrong impression to the potential buyers of this phone...!
Unless you decide to copy entire contact structure in to one medium, which defeats the purpose of sync in a smartphone .... OR you decide to just view B in the phone memory and make a new contact A (which was in google) and add it to phone memory (again defeating the purpose of Syncing)
I hope I made some sense ...
Last edited by sam9s; 28-08-2010 at 02:43 PM.
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28-08-2010, 01:00 AM #251
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@pid 0, so u just made a new ID to get banned...hmmm
Each and every reply of u full of hate and ignorance and of course contradicts ur every previous comment in that long post.
About ur comments rooting, well........
do u prefer tweaking ur windows installation (or linux) or the stock installation?
do u buy an assembled PC or branded?
do u prefer overclocking or the stock speed?
If u can't dare to take the risk and fear for the unknown, u r at a wrong place."My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right."
"Its easy being atheist than secular"
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28-08-2010, 01:27 AM #252
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rhitwick, though I understand what you are getting at, but the argument is not valid actually.....
1. Windows does not under perform without the tweaks we do
2. Branded PC does not underperform than an assembled one.....
3. and Stock Processor is in no way underperformed than an OCed one ...
we do all these tweaks to get even more out of an already optimized product (for most of the people out there), NOT to enhance an underperforming thing .....
The argument with GS seems that its underperforming and we are suggesting tweaks/Rooting or whatever to enhance its performace to match Desire ....... which is already up to mark right out of the box.
So Which sound a better product .... ???? GS or Desire
Also its not necessary that if we do customize in all sorts of one Gadgetry we would also want to do the same with the rest ....
I for example do customize my windows, do assemble my own PC, have OCed my C2D like hell, jailbroken my iTouch BUT I would still want my phone to be up and running the perfect way as much as possible from day one right out of the box, WITHOUT me taking the tension that its not performing/or would not perform and I have to go home and do all sorts of rooting/shooting to get it
up the sleeves ......
I hope you understand my point .....
BTW @Pid 0 " Welcome to the TD forums dude"
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28-08-2010, 08:33 AM #253
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@rhitwick
Err I dont agree with this...I have been using PC for 11 years mobile for 8 years and changed 3 PCsAbout ur comments rooting, well........
do u prefer tweaking ur windows installation (or linux) or the stock installation?
do u buy an assembled PC or branded?
do u prefer overclocking or the stock speed?
If u can't dare to take the risk and fear for the unknown, u r at a wrong place.
But never overclocked any of them...and bought branded ones for the complete warranty cover(I know how to assemble
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Although hacked my mobiles which is necessary...
Ok that story is to tell that I am noob in overclocking and assembling but that dont make me noob in other things too...I just dont want to take un-necessary risk thats all
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28-08-2010, 08:58 AM #254Right Off the Assembly Line
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I dont have any other ID in this forum man. I was just a casual browser here...
And I'm not the only one having such opinion here as you can see.... And it's interesting to see if I get banned... It'll confirm the attitude
I'm not against rooting/modding. In fact i have been doing that to every one of my smartphones. But the thing is that not everyone is comfortable with modding/customization. And a normal android user need not root. Android is not un-useable without modding is what i'm trying to say...
I notice some sarcasm in your welcome
You are the reason I started visiting the thread. Waiting for your detailed review... particularly on the battery life..Last edited by pid 0; 28-08-2010 at 09:17 AM.
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28-08-2010, 10:43 AM #255
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OMG! People read half the posts, and then make a huge deal about it!
Time and time again I HAVE said that the Desire is a better phone out of the box, and if you are not going to fiddle with your phone, its a better choice!
I only came here as people were spreading misinformation, like when they said the hardware of Desire is better, which it IS NOT! And when you say that the hardware differences don't matter in real life YOU ARE WRONG! On stock firmware, sure, the desire will perform better, but install the later firmware on SGS, and then you'll know how much difference it makes! I have personally used both SGS and Nexus One for quite a long time, so I know..
But people DON'T understand this and then twist my words.. Don't know what to say.. I am done arguing with you people as you really don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Sorry, I cannot be more clear than this.
And those of you worrying about my reputation on various forums, please don't..
Any more offtopic posts WILL be deleted without warning.
P.S.: If anyone wants to report me for attitude problems or whatever, please contact Raaabo.
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Hey guys.. I was just thinking one thing.. Since HTC have replaced the AMOLED for S-LCD, maybe they changed the touch digitizer too! Can anyone check if the S-LCD desire has the touchscreen bug or not? It will be really good news if they fixed this!Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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28-08-2010, 11:29 AM #256
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28-08-2010, 02:41 PM #257
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28-08-2010, 03:43 PM #258
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Thnx for the entertainment guys. XD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! !!!!!!!
Oh btw, The Desire suffers from low memory problem. Due to its overtly dimunitive internal memory, you cant install more than 20 apps at a time resulting in a low memory warning. Root your phone and use apps2sd to be safe in that front.My blog-www.rayarunava.com
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28-08-2010, 04:00 PM #259
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I have installed more than 20 apps and I did not receive any warning, though I also have a mem/battery mgt tool.......
And not to forget gazillions of already installed applications on the gadget itself ...
I am sure its not "number" of apps dependent, but "memory" dependent more so, which is a common fact.
No need to Root though, Android 2.2 supports this natively ...
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BTW couple of snaps, of the product I own ...

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28-08-2010, 08:03 PM #260
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28-08-2010, 08:15 PM #261
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29-08-2010, 04:49 AM #262
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Ok guys need help ....
The Geeks out there who think, Rooting is an necessary evil, let me see if this purpose can be solved ....
Currently, google /android does not allow people from India to Install Paid applications, the default android market is flooded with just FREE apps. Now there must be a workaround for this, though I am consulting Google uncle as well, but thought to post the cry out here as well. Does Rooting solve this, so that the default market is made to fake believe that the carrier is a US native, or something like that ......
Need a solution on this friends .....
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Took some extensive advice from Google Uncle and it seems that I WILL finally root the phone, just ONE reason that had me caught......which is ......it seems that to get access to paid apps in NON US countries , there is an application called "Market Enabler", but that only works on a Rooted phone and hence finally decide to go that way ....... back to Google uncle ...... BTW if anyone knows how to root in simple step 1,2 and 3 ... I am all ears ....
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29-08-2010, 07:12 AM #263
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Yuuhooooo
.... Rooted the phone, but did not install the custome ROM as I didnt need that...... Market Enabler worked and now I can see the paid applications in the market, however I still would love to have an option to search something like Top paid applications, which I still cant in the default market .........
M working ....
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29-08-2010, 08:35 AM #264
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Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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29-08-2010, 08:54 AM #265Right Off the Assembly Line
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Did you try purchasing via appbrain? Browse the appbrain market on the PC, add apps to your list, Install the free appbrain app in the phone, sign in and everything you added in the site should get installed on the phone.....
Edit:I think it works via google market. Give it a try..maybe it'll workLast edited by pid 0; 29-08-2010 at 09:03 AM.
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29-08-2010, 09:02 AM #266
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Doesn't work that way. Market Enabler/MarketAccess is the only way.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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29-08-2010, 10:56 AM #267
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It was not the question of "Difficulty", need is the mother of invention, and that was THE only reason I went rooting way ...... who knows when would google decide to allow us the access to the paid applications.......and the ones I needed (I mean the most important ones) were mostly paid .......
And yes I know, rooting makes your warranty void, and that is why I needed to have a solid good reason to go that way, which I got...... and hence the step
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yes I have installed Appsbrain and also created an account. Though I seriously appreciate the way they have created to sync apps directly from browser to your phone, but it STILL works only for free apps. If you click on INSTALL for paid either nothing happens or the handset gives an error while installing.
But now that I have rooted and installed Marker Enabler, would be interesting to see if I can install paid apps from the Appsbrain website ...... will report soon .....
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Is there a difference, both are same AFAIK except MarketAccess works on 2.2 and Enabler < 2.2..... is there any other difference ???
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29-08-2010, 10:56 AM #268
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Cool! Just wanted to make sure you knew about the consequences, as currently its not possible to go back to stock firmware on the Desire

Btw, do check out MarketAccess. Its better than Market Enabler.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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29-08-2010, 07:02 PM #269
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Is it ??? mmmm you can'nt roll back, thats strange, as there is always an option to roll back, anyway, haven't read anyone facing any problem that would make someone roll back ............
Tell me something would the official 2.2 update work on this or not, or I have to go the unofficial way of loading 2.2 by installing custom ROM.
And thanks for Market access seems it IS better as I now also see the "Top paid application option" Which earlier I was not ....... thanks again ...
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29-08-2010, 07:06 PM #270
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Well the rollback thing I was telling you cause of warranty concerns, not because of any problems you may face with root. In some phones you can go back to stock condition if you ever decide to give it in for warranty.. That way the service center guys can never find out if you rooted or anything

The official update for 2.2 will come when HTC decides to bring it in India.. No official news as of now..Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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