The Official HTC Desire Thread

[webwizzy]

I am waiting for the Desire for quite some time now. The release date has already been postponed numerous times and is currently delayed till 2nd week of August which begins on Monday.

Although its available in my city for 27k INR, but without warranty/bill, which I do not encourage. I won't recommend buying from ebay either as most of the sellers there are selling the unlocked T-mobile version of this set which might create troubles later during Android update.

I was quite sure on getting the Desire until I saw Galaxy S's powerfulness (if thats a word) ON THE INTERNET (did I say, on the internet?). I luckily got a chance to get hold of both the phones at the same time at a shop in my city.

To be honest:-

1. Holding Galaxy S in one hand and Desire in the other. Desire feels like luxury, hands down.
2. Both have a gigahertz processor. Hummingbird (though theoretically faster) and Snapdragon, practically, hardly makes a difference to the end user. And no, I am not interested in playing Batman - Arkham City in my mobile lol. I got better gadgets to do that. Except GAMING, I doubt I could feel the difference.
3. S-AMOLED and AMOLED, again hardly made a difference really. Now please, do not ask me to go in the sunshine lol. Its raining outside at the moment, should I search for the sun?
4. I wish I had bigger hands to hold comfortably the GS. I am not tall and the GS doesn't really suit me, it looks big on me and my ears. Whereas the descent 3.7" screen looks far more sleek, slim and sexy.
5. The front camera was definitely an attraction on the GS. But again, I am coming from a Nokia N70 and I can't remember when did I last used the front camera. 3G is still a year ahead in my city, then another couple years for 3g to get common, then another year or two for handsets with front camera to get common. By then, I'll definitely get a new phone with front camera.
6. Touchwiz UI 3.0 - no thanks!
7. Launcher Pro - thanks, but no thanks lol.
8. GS was lagging badly while the shop owner was displaying its features. Now, would you expect me to buy it for 28k, rush to the home and upgrade the firmware. lol no way. This was one big, on the spot, turn off.
9. HTC, the brand name itself, feels like quality. And Samsung is famous for its lack of support, fewer updates, and plastic shells.
10. One of my non-techy friends was with me at the shop. Seeing GS, he screamed, "abe dekh, iPhone!". Hilarious moment. Now, after buying a 28k INR phone, I would never want my phone to look like a "copy of design/concept" of a market leader product. It really looks like an iPhone in design and shape, some might even confuse it with a Chinese toy or ePhone maybe. I personally, won't be able to live with it. I will have to tell every other person that its not an iphone. ugghh
11. On using both, Desire was quicker, more responsive and it was not just me, anybody could feel that. lol even the shopkeeper agreed.
12. Big internal memory is definitely an advantage. Though I have a habit to install every app/game on card. I play with phones a lot, deeply, which usually results in an unplanned format. Having stuff in card feels more secure and safe. So I guess, internal memory won't be much beneficial to me.

And yes, mind it, my above take on both the phones is completely unbiased as I own none of them, and is based on first impressions and 10-15 minutes of use of each of them. And my hunt for a smartphone (till Desire arrives with a descent price tag) is still on. I would have gone for the GS definitely if it was priced around 20-22k, not 28k. Price and quality does matter too, after all.

And Kalpik, nice resume man.

[dreamcatcher]

^^Completely agree. And if you need to root your phone to have the GPS working i dont think its worth it. The GS in itself is extremely laggy and isnt recommended unless you root. The Desire on the other hand is a solid device. Anyways, its not everyday that you shell out 28k for a phone. So take your time and decide.
I personally dont see the Desire launching in India anytime soon given it is already short in the European market and HTC are struggling to assemble parts for their best selling baby. Its august already and if you care to wait, all major companies shall have their announcements i a couple and phones with 12 mp cams and plasma flashes running android shall devour the market.
Actually this time of the year is the worst time to buy a phone, given the plethora of options you are going to miss in the coming months.

[yogi7272]

You people are talking like there wont be any firmware update for GS to resolve the UI lag issues and it will be stuck with the current one for the rest of its lifespan.

Want desire , get desire. What's the point for such thread.

[kalpik]

^ Exactly. Desire is a great phone! Buy it when its out! The OP was looking for feedback on Galaxy S, and I think he cannot get a better feedback than what is already presented in this thread. So I think he should be able to make a decision

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You people are talking like there wont be any firmware update for GS to resolve the UI lag issues and it will be stuck with the current one for the rest of its lifespan.

Desire doesn't lag with stock firmware, Galaxy S does. That's all that people are interested in it seems! Desire obviously wins that way

[neerajvohra]

@Kalpik

^ The OP was looking for feedback on Galaxy S, and I think he cannot get a better feedback than what is already presented in this thread. So I think he should be able to make a decision

@Kalpik
I don't feel (My opinion) OP wants some feedback regarding the Samsung Galaxy S ?? check out the post"S

We are the culprits : (Sorry if someone feels bad about it )

dude, just go and get Samsung Galaxy S

Yes, because HTC itself doesn't have any info about it.
Sam check out the specs of Samsung Galaxy S...

and then we all started this Galaxy S vs Desire.. Though this thread gonna help a lot of users who wants comparision between Samsung LAGGY software beautiful HARDWARE VS A poor DESIRE

Hi All,

I am drooling over this phone for months now and have been waiting for it for ages ......it was suppose to be released in India in Q2 2010, but we have entered mid of Q3 and still no sign of Desire what so ever ... grrrr .. Has anyone bought this phone anywhere in India, or is anyone waiting for the same ..... need some input on this ......

Regards
Sammy

I have checked Galaxy S and intensively compared two phone as well ...... (online ofcourse) and the only thing that goes in favour of Galaxy S is its super AMOLED screen, rest everything is tooo good on Desire (though Desire also has AMOLED screen only second to the best), trust me I have seen enough comparision between iphone 4/3GS, Galaxy S and Desire and Desire wins hands down with its speed and interphase ......

Better CPU? Both have 1ghz snapdragon processor
better gpu? Who compares gpu, it's not for nfs shift actually. There is no I mean absolute no lag what so ever in any kind of navigation in the phone and that is what counts. And the amount of customization one can do is phenominal on this phone. Mever said galaxy is no good but desire has an edge above

Whoa ... why r u sounding so scarcastic ...... i am no HTC fan or samsung hater .... Lets not start Galaxy vs desire battle here .....I had almost decided to buy Galaxy when few thing that are most important to me were clearly better in Desire ...... like few below

I want a smartphone with powerfull integration between contacts, widgets and phonebook, plus fast UI, no lag whatsoever, super smooth browsing and fast page rendering, and least off all sexy mail support .... desire excels in all of these...

Never ending battle though..

You people are talking like there wont be any firmware update for GS to resolve the UI lag issues and it will be stuck with the current one for the rest of its lifespan.

Want desire , get desire. What's the point for such thread.

I forgot to add : Great share of thoughts @webwizzy..

[sujoyp]

Soo the result is let samsung release there new firmware to patch up the lag and HTC release there Desire in India then we can further discuss

But its really upto personal taste ...U just cant ignore how one feels after having hands-on

[sam9s]

I am waiting for the Desire for quite some time now. The release date has already been postponed numerous times and is currently delayed till 2nd week of August which begins on Monday.

Although its available in my city for 27k INR, but without warranty/bill, which I do not encourage. I won't recommend buying from ebay either as most of the sellers there are selling the unlocked T-mobile version of this set which might create troubles later during Android update.

I was quite sure on getting the Desire until I saw Galaxy S's powerfulness (if thats a word) ON THE INTERNET (did I say, on the internet?). I luckily got a chance to get hold of both the phones at the same time at a shop in my city.

And Kalpik, nice resume man.

Solid points and a well though post for first impression (now dont you people think, I said this coz its a pro Desire post...lol) .......This brings me closure to go for Desire ..... I think the decission is made ..desire for me .....if ofcourse the phone is not released for another month. It would turn out to be pretty unlucky for me then as I wont be left with another choice ........
Thanks again webwizzy for brining this post with your experience .....

[kalpik]

^^ Congrats for making up your mind! Most of the people here seem to be eternally confused

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Soo the result is let samsung release there new firmware to patch up the lag and HTC release there Desire in India then we can further discuss

But its really upto personal taste ...U just cant ignore how one feels after having hands-on

The firmware is already there! Just not official.. You can say the same about Desire too lol, the phone is there in India, just not officially

[yogi7272]

@webwizzy- Sorry, if you do think there is no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S then what more I can say. Even gsmarena claimed that display of GS is way way better than Desire or Nexus one. And good luck finding even AMOLED equipped desire now. Also for the heavy os like Android, you need a very powerful hardware. Good luck with your Desire ..

[kalpik]

^^ He makes a good point! I'm 100% sure that the Desire that will launch in India (if at all it launches ), will come with an LCD display.

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Ok, some news: Samsung Galaxy S - Indian thread - Page 15 - Android Forums

[sujoyp]

oops u forgot its SuperLCD

here is the comparision between Super LCD and AMOLED

HTC Desire with S-LCD screen meets one with AMOLED, they go head to head

Super LCD is not bad at all.

But the winner is again Super AMOLED

SLCD vs Super-AMOLED and IPS LCD video comparison and specifications | MobileTechWorld

[sam9s]

@webwizzy- Sorry, if you do think there is no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S then what more I can say. Even gsmarena claimed that display of GS is way way better than Desire or Nexus one. And good luck finding even AMOLED equipped desire now. Also for the heavy os like Android, you need a very powerful hardware. Good luck with your Desire ..

Hardware of Desire is no Meow BTW ..... just because the processor is 45nm does not make it better, there are lot more other things to consider to make a faster UI, than just the hardware ..... Also may I have the link plz where Gsmarena claims display of Galaxy WAY better than Desire

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^^ He makes a good point! I'm 100% sure that the Desire that will launch in India (if at all it launches ), will come with an LCD display.[COLOR="Silver"]

Thats absolutely absurd ...... Why would they do that ..... If they can release Legend with the same AMOLED screen, there is no reason for them to release Desire with LCD/S-LCD ..... whatever ...

[neerajvohra]

There is a difference between being stubborn and being smart likewise Samsung Galaxy VS Desire.

[kalpik]

Thats absolutely absurd ...... Why would they do that ..... If they can release Legend with the same AMOLED screen, there is no reason for them to release Desire with LCD/S-LCD ..... whatever ...

Well, the delay in the India launch was due to AMOLED shortage only! How much do you wanna bet that it will launch with LCD in India?

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There is a difference between being stubborn and being smart likewise Samsung Galaxy VS Desire.

If he's basing his decision on the fact that Galaxy S lags out of the box, and Desire doesn't, then he is absolutely right. Just FYI, Samsung released a new firmware officially for the Galaxy S in India, which fixes the lags, but yes, it won't be available out of the box soon. If he's basing his decision on other factors, he is wrong!

And I really don't know how "being stubborn" applies here! It's his money! He can do ANYTHING with it! Who am I to stop him? So please refrain from such comments.

In the end, I see that my comments are not welcome in this thread, so this will be my last post here

[sam9s]

^^ Well even if I believe this is true the phone would already have been launched in India with LCD screen ..... if there is a Delay, logically it means they wanna release it with AMOLED ..... anyway it would be pretty stupid for HTC to release a superior phone to Legend in every sense with a inferior screen ......

PS :: @Kalpik I welcome every post in every thread ..... its a forum/discussion convincing each other is the very nature of the same ....,dont be so touchy dude ....

[sujoyp]

Bro it seems u havent seen my post properly... there is a comparision of desire with Super LCD and AMOLED...u just read the article once...SuperLCD is not bad

Its true that desire will be now comming with SuperLCD

[webwizzy]

@webwizzy- Sorry, if you do think there is no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S then what more I can say.

yeah right, what more can you say.

Even gsmarena claimed that display of GS is way way better than Desire or Nexus one. And good luck finding even AMOLED equipped desire now.

That is their claim. Did you read what I claimed?

Also for the heavy os like Android, you need a very powerful hardware. Good luck with your Desire ..

It already has and thanks for the best wishes

[sam9s]

Bro it seems u havent seen my post properly... there is a comparision of desire with Super LCD and AMOLED...u just read the article once...SuperLCD is not bad

Its true that desire will be now comming with SuperLCD

Frankly yes I didn't read but now I will. If s LCD is some kind of new tech made to counter AMOLED then it would interesting to see. Anyway let me read the article and wil share my impressions

[yogi7272]

@webwizzy- I dont want to say more cos you find no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S. That statement alone proves the value of your judgement to me.
I trust gsmarena more than a guy on a forum with just 3 posts to his credit. Anyways I have first hand experience of both the displays. Dont need your take on that.

I am out of this thread as well. Good luck

[anandchawla]

Just called up at HTC yesterday at their 1800 number and learned that the launch is "as usual" delayed.

He says.. expect desire at the end of august, instead of 2nd week of August.
I say.. WTF.. it's been tooooo long man, that's not justified.

Every hour of every day feels like fighting a war with my oldie. BTW, its a nokia e90.

I Guess waiting is the only option I have right now.

[sam9s]

I trust gsmarena more than a guy on a forum with just 3 posts to his credit. Anyways I have first hand experience of both the displays. Dont need your take on that.

I am out of this thread as well. Good luck

Mind you boy post count should be in no way taken as any means of critaria to judge any member intellectually or otherwise, let me remind you ..... you did not land in here straight with 1000 posts ...... your statement itself is derogatory in its own respect and does not serve any purpose in making your convection any better .....

[dreamcatcher]

Man. I suggest you stop looking for the Desire. HTC isnt cut out to meet Desire's demand abroad and India isnt much of a priority there. So i suggest you change your options, wait for something else or get whichever high end smartphone you want. I personally suggest wading through September given the number of announcements scheduled then.
And SLCD isnt even in full blown production yet. I dunno how some people have used them both. At least SLCD whenever available shall have a proper 854x480 display unlike pentile ones in AMOLED resulting in way more sharper pictures than just bumping up the colors.

[desiibond]

Oh God. This thread had turned into a tug-of-war. My take.

@OP : If you really really like Desire, you need to wait for the release (could be endless) and like @dreamcatcher said, the delay could prove costly as lot of new phones are lined up for release in next two months. Also not to forget the WinPho 7 based phones coming out soon.

[webwizzy]

@webwizzy- I dont want to say more cos you find no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S. That statement alone proves the value of your judgement to me.
I trust gsmarena more than a guy on a forum with just 3 posts to his credit. Anyways I have first hand experience of both the displays. Dont need your take on that.

I am out of this thread as well. Good luck

Yes, my eyes could not find any difference between AMOLED (on desire) and S-AMOLED (on gs). Does that help?

Does post count matter so much to you. I am new here, and its *natural* to have that much number of posts, no? If you're interested in knowing how much posts I have on the internet, then believe me, you'll trust me more than gsmarena lol.

Don't mind, but that was one of the funniest posts I have read on forums in the past few years. But its okay yaar... you already own a gs I guess and your argument is valid. We all love our property, no? Simple as that.

Just called up at HTC yesterday at their 1800 number and learned that the launch is "as usual" delayed.

uggghhh... now that is really irritating. Calling HTC to let them know how turned off I am.

[sam9s]

Man. I suggest you stop looking for the Desire. HTC isnt cut out to meet Desire's demand abroad and India isnt much of a priority there. So i suggest you change your options, wait for something else or get whichever high end smartphone you want. I personally suggest wading through September given the number of announcements scheduled then.
And SLCD isnt even in full blown production yet. I dunno how some people have used them both. At least SLCD whenever available shall have a proper 854x480 display unlike pentile ones in AMOLED resulting in way more sharper pictures than just bumping up the colors.

Oh God. This thread had turned into a tug-of-war. My take.

@OP : If you really really like Desire, you need to wait for the release (could be endless) and like @dreamcatcher said, the delay could prove costly as lot of new phones are lined up for release in next two months. Also not to forget the WinPho 7 based phones coming out soon.

mmm Damm I was sold out with desire ..... Is GS the only option left under highend smartphones ..... (dont even start with Nokia) .. already boared with E75 ........ so if I wait what according to experts can I expect in next say 3,4 months....is it worth waiting ?????

[dreamcatcher]

Well if you plan to wait a few months the phones in line are.

SE X(something)- 12 mp cam with 3x optical zoom, xenon and 720p recording. Basically the Satio successor with Android and a 4.3 inch screen

HTC- Desire HD. 8 mp cam with hd recording and a 4.3 inch screen. Nothing special. Same as the Desire.

These are the two confirmed as of now. Will be available by December. Dunno bout HTC though.

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Well you can also consider the X10 since it is getting 2.1 in a couple of weeks from now. Me and a few other members are using it too in this forum. But the barrage of hatred for this phone is beyond comprehension.

Anyways. I suggest you wait.

[rhitwick]

mmm Damm I was sold out with desire ..... Is GS the only option left under highend smartphones ..... (dont even start with Nokia) .. already boared with E75 ........ so if I wait what according to experts can I expect in next say 3,4 months....is it worth waiting ?????

Look out for Milestone XT but the specs are inferior to GS.
Also if u r waiting (and enjoying it) then wait for DROID X

And I at least don't find any other mobiles for you.

Well you can also consider the X10 since it is getting 2.1 in a couple of weeks from now. Me and a few other members are using it too in this forum. But the barrage of hatred for this phone is beyond comprehension.
Anyways. I suggest you wait.

But, why would he go for 2.1 when 2.2 is brink?

And, lol...u and sony are made for each other

[webwizzy]

I just talked to the HTC rep. He assured me that IT IS going to launch in India between 16-22 of August with SLCD screen.

And this video really pissed me off.
YouTube - ‪Google Nexus One AMOLED vs SLCD‬‎

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But again, this video might make the Desire prospective owners feel better. As you can see, its hardly making any difference in normal lightening conditions.
YouTube - ‪HowardForums.com: Sony Super LCD vs Super AMOLED‬‎

[neerajvohra]

Oh God. This thread had turned into a tug-of-war. My take.

I thought to keep myself out of this thread..but the comments keep me rolling again and again @ desiibond it's not tug-of-war //better to know what exact the OP wants..and then recommend a phone..you simply said..go for Galaxy S and then keep urself out of this thread doesn't make any sense..if you want to recommend a phone..have some base into it..Check out the post from the beginning..you were the one who recommend Galaxy S ?? Why?? Reasons ?? You are a techy guy owning a legend..post almost 50-100 posts for ur phone @tech arena or tech enclave..hardly visit those stupid forums..yeah I called it right - reasons - I love digit.

And I really don't know how "being stubborn" applies here! It's his money! He can do ANYTHING with it! Who am I to stop him? So please refrain from such comments.

In the end, I see that my comments are not welcome in this thread, so this will be my last post here

Why would u recommend someone for Galaxy S if it's his money..you are a moderator of this forum ?? Am I correct..lol (The green symbol if good enough)

The OP wants to know the release date of Galaxy S ?? NO..a BIG NO..he was asking about DESIRE..then some of us started rolling out go for SOME STUPID SAMSUNG phones..oh Galaxy S..go for it..check the specs..DAM you guys..come out of ur own blindness..The Fact SAMSUNG SUCKS and a BIG yes..you recommend a phone to someone just coz of hardware..haha dam.who wants to play NFS shift with GALAXY..lol It's funny..then you started comments like .dam it's samsung..the best mobile company..awesome hardware..no comparison with DESIRE..the best company that produces LCD, LED..etc don't remember what people said in other thread.that was for SPICA VS 5800XM.

@kalpik..you asked me diff between stubborn and smart -

Being a stubborn while saying Samsung will release something, some firmware, update etc etc..man..HTC doesnt have to do STUFF like this from the very core of opening a BOX of phone.

You really dont understand the thread..you own a hefty price phone of 28k of samsung laggy software excellent hardware= Galaxy doesnt mean people like us doesnt own something that can be worth to compare with you phone..you won Samsaung Galaxy..few friends of mine got an invite for this stupid phone party invitation-Who cares about Samsung ?? No stupid customer care..a huge rs spent on a phone that lags.

I dont want a DIVX support, great hardware- Check the OP posts dude..you keep on recommending Galaxy..Galaxy..then when you are not able to prove ur point.."Blaming others dont like my post..I'm out of this thread "

You should be -But as a name itself says..Neeraj..I still sent u a PM..to see this thread and keep posting

@webwizzy- I dont want to say more cos you find no difference between the AMOLED displays of Desire and Galaxy S. That statement alone proves the value of your judgement to me.
I trust gsmarena more than a guy on a forum with just 3 posts to his credit. Anyways I have first hand experience of both the displays. Dont need your take on that.

I am out of this thread as well. Good luck

You should never come ..ever discuss topics when you judge someone knowledge with the posts..haha you're seriously funny dude..keep rolling with ur GSM arena site and never come into a thread when there is a need of peoples who can bear the "tug of war" for phones..coz a 1post guy can be more knowledgeable than you can ever think off..Lamer

Desire doesn't lag with stock firmware, Galaxy S does. That's all that people are interested in it seems! Desire obviously wins that way

That's what the OP was interested in..I repeated twice..but again the inception of Galaxy S..you was not able to read it..IF you still have any doubts on this..read CAREFULLY from the beginning.


The BOTTOM line : Galaxy S excellent in Hardware..but LAGGY in software/customer support..

I am not going into the updates Galaxy S would be getting...coz it doesn't make sense to me.

All the phones are not perfect= someone comment this= human beings are not perfect too..but we look for the options that doesn't need more compromise.

Dam..I posted so much though I doesnt own a Desire nor a Galaxy..but I wont ever ever..you read it right..ever go for a Samsung Stupid Laggy phone named as Galaxy S...

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Edited :

I have to enable PM only to sent pm to Kalpik

http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/mobi...ml#post1271677

Coz I rec'd request from the top poster of this forum asking about apps and software, hacking, please give me open office..etc etc for phones.

I disabled Pm for those not for my friends though !

[kalpik]

Anddddddd THAT's why I stopped posting on this thread. Thanks for reminding me!

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And just so that Neeraj would stop slinging dirt at me, a quote from sam9s's PM to me:

I was still looking for input from people regarding Galaxy and Desire