The Official HTC Desire Thread

[drumster]

Quick update on the battery life of HTC Desire. I had earlier mentioned that the battery life was not that good. But after about 6-7 charge cycles the battery life has improved (as is the case with all Li-Ion batteries). Now it easily lasts me one day with decently heavy usage. My typical usage is:

• About 1.5 hours of music playback
• Around 15-20 minutes of talktime
• Atleast 2 hours of browsing
• GMail
• Exchange Mail (updates every 15 minutes)
• Twitter (Updates every 1 hour)
• Facebook
• Google Talk (always connected)

So the battery life is not as bad as people make it out to be. But it remains to be seen as how to performs on the 3G network, because 3G networks typically make the phone consume more power.

[sam9s]

Well the rollback thing I was telling you cause of warranty concerns, not because of any problems you may face with root. In some phones you can go back to stock condition if you ever decide to give it in for warranty.. That way the service center guys can never find out if you rooted or anything

The official update for 2.2 will come when HTC decides to bring it in India.. No official news as of now..

I have no issues to wait actually (I waited for Desire ), the only thing I wanted was the Market enabler, the only other thing I am interested is being able to install the apps on SD, but for that I have to load custom ROM, which I dont want right now ...... 2.2 natively supports installing applications to mem card. So I was wondering if the official 2.2 can be installed on to a Rooted phone ....

[Terabyte]

I have been following this thread right through.
Happy to see everybody is happy with there Deisre

Sorry a bit offtopic question here - What is rooting a phone?
How do you do it?
Please explain in short.
Thank you

[sam9s]

Enjoying customizing the phone ... ,
thought to share my desktop screen ..... though its not the final customization ....

[kalpik]

Enjoying customizing the phone ... ,
thought to share my desktop screen ..... though its not the final customization ....

I see you're using task killer.. That's not a recommended thing for android. Use Autokiller, which contrary to the name, tweaks Android's built in garbage collection.

[anandchawla]

Story of a(the) defective HTC DESIRE(s)

Guys please refer to my last post about the defect in my piece, http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/mobi...ml#post1276650

While I got the "Replacement Certificate" from the service centre and visited the same dealer in South Extension where I bought it from, to my utter surprise, I found out that the other two, brand new box packed pieces, had exact same problem when unboxed. So the dealer asked me to come back again on Monday 30th August, as he was expecting additional stock. Well, this was yesterday.

Today, I got a call from this dealer, he says that guys at HTC have confirmed that all pieces in the current shipment are in similar condition and this a just a minor thing (I would call it A BIG BANG "DEFECT") and nothing can be done about this. This dealer, still wants me to come down to his store tomorrow and open the other 4 boxes (he'll be getting them tomorrow) till I find a normal piece, or worst case, he'll refund.

This is a big story in happening, I guess, if the other pieces in this new stock possess the same defect.

@sam9s
Brother can you please cross check with your piece and confirm if the defect exists. And BTW, these white spots are not visible on colored background. You can open google search page (which of course has a white background) and target the bottom right of the phone. The brightest spot is exactly 4 cm from the bottom edge of the phone. Try rotating your phone, as you would have done with a 3d hologram, if at first you don't find it.

@webwizzy
Thanks a ton buddy, the Case-Mate cases you suggested are very very cool, specially the Torque Case & Hybrid Tough Case. Are you aware of any dealer selling these case-mate products in Delhi NcR?

@kalpik
1. My Language is perfectly alright dude. It's just your perspective pinching your attitude.
2. Sorry, you are mistaken about me being new to internet or forums or whatsoever. I know how to operate things around here and almost everywhere. This is your second shortcoming, that you assume people too early. Next time, think twice before underestimating anybody, or you might get into trouble. Please refer to the Title "LESSONS OF LIFE FOR DUMMIES" by Anand Chawla.
3. My patience lasts really long, unlike yours. So that is one of the many advantages I have. Next one is even better.
4. Stop threatening me. Think thrice (raise to the power 10) that how, your banning me, would stop my entry to this forum (just in case I ever want to). I am not the one who looses here, but this forum does, because of who? "___________________" (Fill in the blanks)
5. Ignoring people like you with superbly stupidest and arrogant attitude is not an exception for me. Seriously not a great deal of effort.

BTW, since YOU started this conversation by replying with nonsense to my post, so technically I have all the rights in this "world wide web" to end it. So here it cums, aaahhh "END OF DISCUSSION".

BBL

[kalpik]

^^ User banned for 2 weeks.

[pid 0]

Enjoying customizing the phone ... ,
thought to share my desktop screen ..... though its not the final customization ....

Not using the hTC weather widgets?? They add mode "cool"ness to the homescreen...

And how is the SLCD doing on battery?

Have you tried any of the gameloft games? Any problems due to multi touch issue with onscreen touch controls in far left and far right at same height?

[kalpik]

Not using the hTC weather widgets?? They add mode "cool"ness to the homescreen...

And how is the SLCD doing on battery?

Have you tried any of the gameloft games? Any problems due to multi touch issue with onscreen touch controls in far left and far right at same height?

Maybe they fixed the touchscreen bug while swapping AMOLED with S-LCD! But no one seems interested in testing that

[dreamcatcher]

^^Since no one has experienced it yet suggests the case has been taken care of.

[kalpik]

^^Since no one has experienced it yet suggests the case has been taken care of.

Well.. You won't notice the bug in day to day use.. You need to specifically check for it

[sam9s]

@anand .... well the white spot is soooo faint (if its even there) I had to look really hard to find it, I could nt have spotted, had you not mentioned it.........but yes it seems its there, I dont find it much of concern though as ...

1. its so very faint that you hardly notice .....
2. It is only visible on pure white background, that too as I said hard to spot .....

@Kalpik.......dude dont thake this other wise, I am not sure how old are you, but as a brother on the same forum, I'd suggest you remove the ban. Think maturely Its an open forum and these kinds of heated arguments often happen, its not like he has abused you in any manner that involves any kind of cast, creed, sex or discrimination ....... your acting like this and the way you did before, actually adds up to the wrong impression ...... (if at all you give a damm though) ...... its pretty evident that you have taken this personally and that is not good not only as a mod but as a person as well .......
Just give it a small though, what I have said .....

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Not using the hTC weather widgets?? They add mode "cool"ness to the homescreen...

And how is the SLCD doing on battery?

Have you tried any of the gameloft games? Any problems due to multi touch issue with onscreen touch controls in far left and far right at same height?

Oh yes I forgot that, in this to n fro customization, here it is added and wallpaper changed as well



S-LCD is doing good, I mean I am on the phone almost the entire day as its new and have been experimenting with it. The battery easily lasts for 7,8 hours of almost continues extensive use ......with screen brightness full and Wifi always on ...... so its pretty decent .....

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Well.. You won't notice the bug in day to day use.. You need to specifically check for it

What do you want me to test ... tell me will do it .....

[kalpik]

@Kalpik.......dude dont thake this other wise, I am not sure how old are you, but as a brother on the same forum, I'd suggest you remove the ban. Think maturely Its an open forum and these kinds of heated arguments often happen, its not like he has abused you in any manner that involves any kind of cast, creed, sex or discrimination ....... your acting like this and the way you did before, actually adds up to the wrong impression ...... (if at all you give a damm though) ...... its pretty evident that you have taken this personally and that is not good not only as a mod but as a person as well .......
Just give it a small though, what I have said .....

Sorry, this is NOT an "open" forum in the sense that you are thinking. There are rules. If someone's not OK with the rules, there is no place for them on this forum. The ban is for 2 weeks. If anyone else saw this, I'm sure it would have been a permanent ban. Oh and like I said before, please don't worry about my impression here, or on any place else on the Internet.

Anyway, like I said before, NO offtopic posts. If you have a problem with me or my attitude, please contact Raaabo (the admin here).

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What do you want me to test ... tell me will do it .....

Try this out: YouTube - Htc desire touchscreen problem
and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLUmJL_Px0&NR=1

[pid 0]

S-LCD is doing good, I mean I am on the phone almost the entire day as its new and have been experimenting with it. The battery easily lasts for 7,8 hours of almost continues extensive use ......with screen brightness full and Wifi always on ...... so its pretty decent .....

That sounds like a decent battery life.. and it should get slightly better with a few charge cycles.

What do you want me to test ... tell me will do it .....

Basically the multi-touch problem when both the fingers are along the same line on an axis. Some have reported that you cannot press two buttons that are on the same line simultaneously.. For ex: 3D games... they have the movement controls on the bottom left.. and fire/action buttons on the bottom right.. See a sample screenshot attached..

Can you please check if you can press the two soft-buttons(left-corner and right-corner) that are on the same row simultaneously (like running and firing at the same time)? Are games with on-screen controls like these playable on the Desire?

I believe gameloft now offers a 24Hr trial before purchase. It would be great if you can test the multi-touch issue and also a mini review on how these HD games look and run on the Desire

[brainstorm87]

@ anandchawla, webwizzy : Friends, I'm having the same problem.
I contacted the dealer. He said HTC Desire and HD2 seem to have this problem, and it's with all of them. I asked him what's the way out, as this phone has cost me a fortune, he said there's not a need to worry, as this is just a minor problem, and nothing serious.

What's your opinion guys?
@anandchawla : Have you got your phone replaced? Is the "white spots" problem still there?

[drumster]

I have no white spots problem on my HTC Desire... or maybe its so little that its not even noticeable. Please try to understand that every LCD has some kind of inconsistencies (extremely minute and can only be viewed at a certain angle). Even your laptop screen would have these so-called white-spots. Now I am in no way justifying them, but all I am saying is that its something that is unpredictable, even if they replace the phone, you might have some other spots in a different area. These are NOT visible while using the phone normally. So i would say that there is not reason to get worked up about them.

[kalpik]

^^ What he said.. I saw the pics.. And don't even notice anything out of the ordinary..

[sam9s]

That sounds like a decent battery life.. and it should get slightly better with a few charge cycles.

Basically the multi-touch problem when both the fingers are along the same line on an axis. Some have reported that you cannot press two buttons that are on the same line simultaneously.. For ex: 3D games... they have the movement controls on the bottom left.. and fire/action buttons on the bottom right.. See a sample screenshot attached..

Can you please check if you can press the two soft-buttons(left-corner and right-corner) that are on the same row simultaneously (like running and firing at the same time)? Are games with on-screen controls like these playable on the Desire?

I believe gameloft now offers a 24Hr trial before purchase. It would be great if you can test the multi-touch issue and also a mini review on how these HD games look and run on the Desire

I am not in to mobile gaming actually (PSP for that) so its hardly a concern for me, however just for testing purpose I can try that out. Which game do you want me to test with. If its a DEMO send me the direct link to download (if possible)

@ anandchawla, webwizzy : Friends, I'm having the same problem.
I contacted the dealer. He said HTC Desire and HD2 seem to have this problem, and it's with all of them. I asked him what's the way out, as this phone has cost me a fortune, he said there's not a need to worry, as this is just a minor problem, and nothing serious.

What's your opinion guys?
@anandchawla : Have you got your phone replaced? Is the "white spots" problem still there?

I have no white spots problem on my HTC Desire... or maybe its so little that its not even noticeable. Please try to understand that every LCD has some kind of inconsistencies (extremely minute and can only be viewed at a certain angle). Even your laptop screen would have these so-called white-spots. Now I am in no way justifying them, but all I am saying is that its something that is unpredictable, even if they replace the phone, you might have some other spots in a different area. These are NOT visible while using the phone normally. So i would say that there is not reason to get worked up about them.

It actually is not a thing to worry about ...... as drumster said, mninor inconsistencies can be there, in this case I was not able to spot that white dot TILL the time @anand mentioned, its very faint and pretty hard to spot, that too from an acute angle. I think its hardly anything we should make a hue and cry out of it ......

[pid 0]

I am not in to mobile gaming actually (PSP for that) so its hardly a concern for me, however just for testing purpose I can try that out. Which game do you want me to test with. If its a DEMO send me the direct link to download (if possible)

It'll be great if you can try...

you can find it here: Gameloft-Android

And you can click "Free Trial". On entering your mobile no, you should get the link to download. I think it might download a lot of data. Needs to be connected on WiFi. You can try Hero of sparta..

Basically you need to see if you can do two actions at the same time by pressing two buttons on the same line. say pressing a direction and control button at the same time..

And do let us know how the games work (and look)... maybe the desire can replace your psp

[sam9s]

^^ Ok downloading Assassins Creed and Asphalt 5. I think Assassins Creed should provide a good platform to test the multi touch thingi .....

BTW .. Nothing can replace PSP, except PSP itself

[kalpik]

^^ Ok downloading Assassins Creed and Asphalt 5. I think Assassins Creed should provide a good platform to test the multi touch thingi .....

BTW .. Nothing can replace PSP, except PSP itself

Dunno! But games are pretty darn awesome on my phone! YouTube - Nova - Samsung Galaxy S.mov

[sam9s]

Well downloaded Assassins creed and trust be boys i DID NOT find any problem with the touch, infact I am surprised how accurately controls have been developer considering touch screen, the sensitivity is awsome .......

On the left we have navigation control and on the right we have jump, sword light attack and sword heavy attack exactly in the same line of the navigation circle. And I had no trouble using the navigation and the attack.

However I noticed the phone gets really hot at the back while playing the Game, I dont know if that is normal or common ...

just out of curiosity, @Pid, the Gameloft link you provided only has like 10 demo games to try, where can I find more of them ,......

BTW Nova looks same on HTC Desire .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozHPK...eature=related

[pid 0]

Well downloaded Assassins creed and trust be boys i DID NOT find any problem with the touch, infact I am surprised how accurately controls have been developer considering touch screen, the sensitivity is awsome .......

On the left we have navigation control and on the right we have jump, sword light attack and sword heavy attack exactly in the same line of the navigation circle. And I had no trouble using the navigation and the attack.

However I noticed the phone gets really hot at the back while playing the Game, I dont know if that is normal or common ...

just out of curiosity, @Pid, the Gameloft link you provided only has like 10 demo games to try, where can I find more of them ,......

BTW Nova looks same on HTC Desire .......

YouTube - N.O.V.A. - HTC Desire by www.HTC-DEV.com - Zepiii

Thanks for trying sam9s Great to know it does not affect the gaming. Maybe the problem occurs when they are very close to each other on the same axis. But such scenarios will not occur 99.9% of the time... so nothing to worry I guess

hmmm...Phone getting hot.. now that's something to think of..

BTW, gameloft have so far only 10HD games for android...maybe they'll make more soon... I think those are time trial.. so dont download them all together.. download one by one so that you'll have more time to play each one of them....

Still keeping the same take on PSP?? :-P:-P

[kalpik]

BTW Nova looks same on HTC Desire .......

YouTube - N.O.V.A. - HTC Desire by www.HTC-DEV.com - Zepiii

No way! There is a lot of stuttering and no anti-aliasing present at all

P.S.: I've played Nova on SGS and Desire side by side

[webwizzy]

ALRIGHT.... so finally I'm bending towards Samsung Wave over HTC Desire.

Reasons below:

1. Wave is 10,000 Rupees cheaper than Desire.
2. Metallic body and slim, sleek design.
3. 3.3" is not too small. The max I would like to handle is the 3.7" of Desire, and 3.3" is just fine for me.
4. Super AMOLED display in Wave, Super LCD in Desire. Many people say Super AMOLED is superior, so yayy.
5. Wifi b/g/n in Wave, b/g in Desire.
6. Bluetooth 3.0 in Wave, 2.1 in Desire.
7. Front camera in Wave.
8. Can record 720p HD vids at 30fps, Desire records 720p (in Froyo) at not more than 24fps (the max I've heard).
9. 1500mah battery in Wave, 1400mah in Desire.
10. The processor is A4 1Ghz in Wave, 1Ghz Snapdragon in Desire. So, yeah same.
11. RAM is 512mb in Wave, 576mb in Desire. yeah Desire wins but I won't miss that 64mb.

So, the hardware is clearly the best in class in Wave. The latest Wifi, latest Bluetooth, larger battery, 720p vids @ 30fps, front cam, S-AMOLED, and THE PRICE at 17,500/- are definitely turning me on. I wonder how I never checked out the specs/price of wave before.

The only not-so-good thing in Wave is the all-new Samsung's Bada OS. But, I've been reading a lot of positive reviews over it, although not on par with other OS's but definitely has a lot of scope of improvement. The ease of use and speed has been appreciated at a lot of places and its only going to get better (hope so).

Although I'll miss Android, but I've never been an Android user so I guess I won't miss it that much lol.
Also, Android port to Wave is in the works. Hope it'll make it some day. If not, I can live without it.


Go Waveeeeee....... looks like me and my two friends (one of them thinks Galaxy S is the latest iPhone, and he even argues about it lol) all are getting Wave now. So 3 Wave's tomorrow, expecting one hell of a deal lol... yayyyy

[kalpik]

^^ I think what I'm about to say will seal the deal for you!

XDA people are working on an Android port for Wave! So yea, pretty soon you should be able to run Android on the Wave

[sakumar79]

I have recently (less than a week ago) purchased the wave... Got it for effectively 17.1k...

Plusses: Good multimedia phone as you already know, SuperAMOLED screen and great battery life(not yet tested much)... NFS Shift is available for free now...

Minor Issues to know:
1. The interface with PC (KIES) is not working properly... Not detecting the cell... I havent had the time to sort out the problem, but have updated it to no avail - checked on both my PC and my laptop... Could be a one-off problem though... However, I can browse with Wifi on Samsung Apps directly from cell thru the PC network+router...

2. Music player did not seem to include a shuffle and repeat option... Have to hunt for it... Also, there does not seem to be a dedicated hardware key for the music player, only for the camera...

3. In direct sunlight, even the SuperAMOLED screen was not easy to read

4. Yet to master the menu and widgets customisation, but it is not very easy (there are 3 menu pages and it is slightly difficult to move a menu item from one page to another... also, i am unable to find a way to make a menu item into a shortcut on the main screen)...

5. Importing contacts data from my SIM seems to have screwed up the list (names getting cut, first name and last names seem to have interchanged) a bit...

6. Unable to assign songs I have loaded on my card as ringtone...

7. I got 2 GB card free and about 500 MB only of the 1.5 GB internal memory is for our usage... This is likely to be totally insufficient and I traded my 2 GB card for a 8 GB card but it did not go for even half its value...

As you can see, they are minor issues but if they are likely to affect you, you can ask the dealer to clarify... If you get solution for one or more of the above issues, please let me know too...

Arun

[kalpik]

3. In direct sunlight, even the SuperAMOLED screen was not easy to read

Are you sure you were on full brightness? On full brightness, my screen is 100% visible in direct sunlight!

P.S.: Please create another thread for wave.. Let this one be for Desire..

[sam9s]

@Webwizzy ....... WAVE rocks ... BADA Sucks .... your take ....
You do not have GMaps on wave BTW plus quite a few essentials apps cannt be installed like Fring and all ......

My friend went bonkers when he saw Wave for the first time, but slowly his excitement subsided when he came to know the BADA shortcomings .......
BADA is still in its very infancy stage, risky to invest

[kalpik]

@Webwizzy ....... WAVE rocks ... BADA Sucks .... your take ....
You do not have GMaps on wave BTW plus quite a few essentials apps cannt be installed like Fring and all ......

My friend went bonkers when he saw Wave for the first time, but slowly his excitement subsided when he came to know the BADA shortcomings .......
BADA is still in its very infancy stage, risky to invest

Hmm.. Yeah.. BADA does suck right now.. Lets see what Samsung is able to make of Bada.. I am not very hopeful, but Samsung is investing a LOT in Bada, and they are also trying VERY hard to get developers interested in coding for it.. So it may just turn around and surprise us!

But like I said, I am not very hopeful

Though the day we get a working Android port for Wave, ALL android phones are gonna be destroyed!

I mean the wave is basically same as Galaxy S! And it retails for 17k!