Symbian or winmo?

[Newton.]

Hi. I'm new here though i've been following this forum for a month. I regret my first thread being a question.
I would like to know which platform is better in terms of available software, games (free) and customization. (when i talk of symbian, i mean hacked symbian)
any help is appreciated.

[gforce23]

The WinMo scene is 10 times as large as S60 and UIQ put together. Head over to xda-developers.com for all the hacks, cooked ROMs and tips you could possibly need for any WinMo device.

[damngoodman999]

My view ::: winmob is good but when it comes to gr8 UI i would surely go for the SymbS60 3rd edt cause no more virus at all > winmob only for sitting geeks .

[Newton.]

So that means omnia will be better than a N85 considering all other aspects also?

[hellgate]

Originally Posted by damngoodman999

My view ::: winmob is good but when it comes to gr8 UI i would surely go for the SymbS60 3rd edt cause no more virus at all > winmob only for sitting geeks .

winmo ui is better than s60v3.if the default ui doesnt suit u then u can always use apps like spb,pointui etc to cust the ui.

the default ui of foneslike diamond & omnia r a hell lot better than any s60 or uiq ui.

[amitabhishek]

Given the choice, Symbian, any day.

[Newton.]

Originally Posted by amitabhishek

Given the choice, Symbian, any day.

any particular reason why?

[hellgate]

^^^ Symbian is a lot easier to use than WinMo (read its more user frndly).
also audio/cam quality of s60 fones r better than WinMos though this is changing fast with the likes of Omnia.

[amitabhishek]

Originally Posted by Newton.

any particular reason why?

It will be a long rant...to keep it very very short just about everything on Windows Mobile requires more clicks (or taps) than the equivalent function on competing systems.

[gxsaurav]

^^ Try using HTC touch diamond. I own a Nokia N79 but find the UI of TouchFLO 3D more fluid

[Newton.]

Is it possible to upgrade the windows version? Will it void the warranty? That would be good as you can't do that in symbian.

[damngoodman999]

Windows Mobile =>pro Geeks

Symbian S60 => Entry Level Geeks

[hellgate]

Originally Posted by Newton.

Is it possible to upgrade the windows version? Will it void the warranty? That would be good as you can't do that in symbian.

yup u can upgrade the windows ver provided u hav the latest rom available for ur device.xcept for few devices u'll lotsa support from the winmo community for the rest of the devices.like winmo 6.5 beta 4 has alreday been ported for the Diamond.
if u flash any custom/cooked rom ur warranty is VOID.

WinMo is a hell lot better than s60.though cud be a bit complex for new users.

[Charan]

BTW Please note that winmo supports only 65536 colors

[gxsaurav]

^^^^^ This is something which is going to change with Windows Mobile 7. 16m color based screen, 128 MB RAM is going to be a must for all WinMo 7 phones.

[hellgate]

^^^ btw when is winmo 7 comming?

[Newton.]

Originally Posted by hellgate

^^^ btw when is winmo 7 comming?

i read that its coming out in 2010. This year we'll only be having 6.5.

[rockthegod]

I would take Windows Mobile any day over Symbian. I found the latter to be slower and bland for my taste and also extremely limited possibility of customization and tweaks.... Windows Mobile 6 and later based devices are sleek and thanks to xda-devs, one can satisfy their inner g33k-urges everyday !!!

Windows 6.5 has already been ported to some present devices but still has a few problems.. also Android has been successfully ported to some Qualcomm MSM7xxx chipset based devices like Kaiser, Vogue, Diamond and some others... so buying any current-gen WinMo phones will automatically provide the capability to dual-boot 2 different OSes, and even at its present stage Android is rocking my Kaiser...

As far as the UI goes, you can do almost anything with Windows Mobile... what you have to do is provide some of your time at xda-devs and inner-urge to customize like hell.... if you have them, get a WinMo based phone and you are all set for one hell of an awesome mobile experience ...

[hellgate]

^^^ well said dood.
u can do lotsa things with winmo that u cant do with any other mobile os platform.
if u dont wanna get bored with ur fone by seeing the same bland UI then get a winmo and satisfy urself with diff uis everyday.

[rockthegod]

Originally Posted by hellgate

if u dont wanna get bored with ur fone by seeing the same bland UI then get a winmo and satisfy urself with diff uis everyday.

+1...

[Newton.]

Thanks a lot guys. I used to think windows mobile was crap but you all changed my opinion.

[pr.itdude]

^^^gud.....
yes go for something different and better too......try out what u didnt till now......
So best of luck for ur future winmob xperience...!!!

[damngoodman999]

Originally Posted by Newton.

Thanks a lot guys. I used to think windows mobile was crap but you all changed my opinion.

but make sure that if u r entering in to the Smart phone on the entry level ,, plz note that u cannot experience fully smartphone facilities on the winmobo ..

The pro geeks can really use the min mob with out any prob --

i used HTC touch rather i cannot tolerate the facilities really bored but symbian are good with normal use abilities , win mobo are excellent but u should con front to spend some time to know the facilities mainly the UI .

[krups]

Windows mobile rocks... I am sure, if you start using windows mobile once, you will never shift back to any other os.

BTW, I am using HTC touch diamond and I am loving it. Awesome device.

Just have a look at HTC Touch HD.... and visit xda-developers.com.

Cheers,
Krupal

[krates]

windows for show off

symbian for a real os...

[Krazy_About_Technology]

WinMo anytime. The customization options are AWWWEEESOMMMEE! Never been able to do that with my last 4 Symbian phones. Winmo is definitely recommended if you are a do-it-yourself type geek. Performance is great when tweaked properly even on a 201 MHz proccy on which Symbian sucks to boot! Some of the greatest Games are available for Winmo like Tomb Raider (full 3d, PC like experience), Call of Duty 2, Age of Empires (matches exactly to the PC version and very playable), Guitar hero, Virtual Pool 3D, Asphalt 3D (racing game, really nice), just to name a few. Apps are available for almost everything, you can ever imagine. There is even a command prompt and language compilers available for C#, VB.net, GCC (C and C++) so you can write code and compile it on device itself. I cant describe it fully here, it would take 10-15 pages! And this is with Wm 6.1, 6.5 is improving and 7 will revolutionize Winmo ecosystem, thats quiet sure.

Now, The two problems that i found with Winmo platform,
1. Since the phone audio is not routed through WinMo software interfaces, its impossible to record a two way conversation properly. The best software available is PMRecorder which can record other side voices but very low.

2. Camera is usually not very nice, better on high end devices, but doesn't matches Sony's cameras.

Thats it, apart from this, almost everything can be customized or replaced.

[expertno.1]

However the software and games available for s60 phones are far more than winmo .

So i will stick to s60 !

[Krazy_About_Technology]

That's very subjective What kind of software are you talking about? I am not telling you to move over winmo if you are happy with symbian, its your personal choice and frankly, Microsoft wont pay me a buck even i become successful in doing so. Anyways, i think you are not very familiar with Windows Mobile, otherwise you wouldn't had put this statement in first place.

[expertno.1]

Originally Posted by Krazy_About_Technology

That's very subjective What kind of software are you talking about? I am not telling you to move over winmo if you are happy with symbian, its your personal choice and frankly, Microsoft wont pay me a buck even i become successful in doing so. Anyways, i think you are not very familiar with Windows Mobile, otherwise you wouldn't had put this statement in first place.

i have used winmo for a year i.e of version 6.1 , inspite of its highly customization i merely found softwares for it . But when i got my hands on s603rd , i not only could play 96-100 mb ngage games ! but also a hell lot of apps available everywhere .

the sound , camera and feel of a symbian phone is far good than winmo .


seroiusly i must tell you , the newbies favour winmo just to show off that he has a winmo but that is lame . get what you get best from an os .

for example can you give me a winmo software that gives me the tower code and the option to change tower ? i can do that on s60 by using field test .

you can switch between towers yourself ! (of the same operator) such as from gprs to edge tower if both are available in your area !

so i prefer s60 .

seriously someone told here , winmo for show off , symbian for real !




Thanks
Regards.....
Expertno.1

[Krazy_About_Technology]

This is something that you can argue with. Tell me a c# or even symbian c++ compiler and development environment for Symbian which can compile executable right on your phone or maybe something like SQL Server CE for it? What is the minimum amount of time in which you can write a small hello world program for it? I ported a full fledged desktop .NET app to it within half hour to it which uses internet connectivity, sql server ce databases and things like DataGrid etc.

So it mostly depends upon your personal requirements. I need a balance of enterprise and entertainment software along with good and easy development support and i got it in Windows Mobile. With Symbian, i fiddled with it for 1 months before i could understand and write a program for it. And leave alone database connectivity and all.

You found that particular one for Symbian, good. But its just a matter of time and interest and it will be available for Windows Mobile too if you simply put the idea on developer forums like XDA.

BTW, i will not considered myself a newbie. I have 4+ years of experience with Symbian devices and now over a year with Windows Mobile devices. I have cooked at least 5-8 ROMs and written more than 10 business class applications for it now so i have a quiet clear understanding of its architecture.