Sony Ericsson Beats Motorola to 3rd position!!!

[dreamcatcher]

The usual pre-holiday ramp-up in cell phone shipments didn't happen this year because of the feeble global economy, a research firm said Thursday.
Manufacturers shipped 299 million phones in the July-September period, down 0.4 percent from the second quarter, according to IDC. The third quarter normally sees a rise in shipments, as stores stock up ahead of the holidays.
Shipments still grew 3.2 percent compared to last year. But as cell phones have become a global must-have in the last few years, it has been more common to see growth rates of up to 20 percent.
Sony Ericsson unseated Motorola Inc. as the third-largest cell phone manufacturer, with 8.6 percent share of the market. Motorola had 8.5 percent.
Sony Ericsson also leapfrogged LG Electronics Inc., pushing it down to No. 5 slot.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...d=rss.business


http://www.mobileisgood.com/statistics.php#current

Now, thats quite an achievement.The only thing that bothers SE is profit , which should be taken care of in 2009. Hail SE.
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[Third Eye]

Party time .

[m-jeri]

*OT*

i think it was not possible. but i like this fanboi more now. he is a true definiton for a fanboi.just like a baby with a doll.think his is the best. ...

[dheeraj_kumar]

Sony rules, anywhere, everywhere

[sandeepkochhar]

To me Motorola is and always be the numero uno of mobiles..sab mobile manufacturers are baap...Look at their portfolio man..Cheapest touch screen A810..Best style Razr n Rokr...Best 5 MP camera Moto Zine ZN5...Best slider ZN 200...Best entry level phones Yuva Series...Cheapest Style Flip phone W270...Cheapest QWERTY phone Q8 n Q9..They are the best..SE n Nokia et al are far behind Moto as far as innovative thinking n styling n pricing is considered..Moto hai Zara hatke

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

I love SE's Success.
More traffic to my blog and forum !!!!!!

Originally Posted by madjeri

*OT*

I think it was not possible. but i like this fanboi more now. he is a true definiton for a fanboi.just like a baby with a doll.think his is the best. ...

We all know, deep inside you love nokia. and are an N fan boy.
if not then you wouldn't have bothered to post such a message ! Seriously, logically !

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by dheeraj_kumar

Sony rules, anywhere, everywhere

Definitely SE is way better than Moto...but NOKIA is the real KING

[m-jeri]

Originally Posted by a_k_s_h_a_y

I love SE's Success.
More traffic to my blog and forum !!!!!!



We all know, deep inside you love nokia. and are an N fan boy.
if not then you wouldn't have bothered to post such a message ! Seriously, logically !

1. i was talking abt dream..in not a sarcastic mood...and u turned that into this... LAMO..
2. Me a N fan boy.... ???? .... damn from when

My fone usages are .. Moto some model ..samsung x210 ...moto razr ...nokia 6233 ...SE w700i ...Moto razr ...Samsung i710....

ehy???... care to explain dear boy??? i dont even spend money on phones..damn....
I care abt looks..features...vfm... dont give dipshit abt brands... ... and u made me a fanboi...

[sandeepkochhar]

Sony Ericsson is the only company out of the big 5 (Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, LG, SE) which is not able to manufacture a single CDMA device in India..WTF...How can one call such company versatile which leaves an entire technological advancement aside..In GSM too, their lower end phones are crap..My first phone was T230..And believe me that was the most pathetic device I ever used..Call clarity was pathetic, can't be heard except in complete silence zone..And no that wasn't my piece that was defective..I used their J series later on and same problem..Software is fast compared to Symbian but nonetheless boring and prosaic..Keypads are worst in SE devices..The figures you are talking doesn't matter experience does...

[dreamcatcher]

Originally Posted by madjeri

*OT*

i think it was not possible. but i like this fanboi more now. he is a true definiton for a fanboi.just like a baby with a doll.think his is the best. ...

I really dont give a damn to what you say.So your spamming this thread is useless.

And about, Moto being better, that was the case 7 years back, before 2001. After that, acompany named SE took over. About keypads, the zn5 and the e8 share the award for the worst keypads ever.

[krazzy]

[yogi7272]

offtopic- motorola zn5 is not that better than n82 in camera department. My friend owns one and we have compared both. Failed to find any substantial difference in both phones camera performance. Colours are slighty more vibrant on zn5. Night photos are better in n82.

[dreamcatcher]

Originally Posted by krazzy

Punched where it hurts.Now, let samsung eat up more of Nokia's share.

Q4 for SE.

C905,XPERIA,G705,W595,W902 and lots more.hhmmmmmm

Originally Posted by yogi7272

offtopic- motorola zn5 is not that better than n82 in camera department. My friend owns one and we have compared both. Failed to find any substantial difference in both phones camera performance. Colours are slighty more vibrant on zn5. Night photos are better in n82.

True Nokia fanboi, spamming each thread that comes his way.You should worry about the C905 now.The best cam out there.Whats N82?? Oh yea, HISTORY!!!

[a_k_s_h_a_y]

Originally Posted by madjeri

1. i was talking abt dream..in not a sarcastic mood...and u turned that into this... LAMO..
2. Me a N fan boy.... ???? .... damn from when

My fone usages are .. Moto some model ..samsung x210 ...moto razr ...nokia 6233 ...SE w700i ...Moto razr ...Samsung i710....

ehy???... care to explain dear boy??? i dont even spend money on phones..damn....
I care abt looks..features...vfm... dont give dipshit abt brands... ... and u made me a fanboi...

ok lol sorry. i thought i had seen in one of the nokia threads boasting about the n series phone you had. you are not that guy then.

[krazzy]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

Punched where it hurts.Now, let samsung eat up more of Nokia's share.

WTF?! The smiley was for this comment:

About keypads, the zn5 and the e8 share the award for the most keypads ever.

[dreamcatcher]

Originally Posted by krazzy

WTF?! The smiley was for this comment:

Then you should have quoted it. Sorry, was a typo.

[sushantvirdi]

Ha ha...i jst love this bashing each other...cannot be found on any other forum...and SE rules...

[sandeepkochhar]

Originally Posted by dreamcatcher

I really dont give a damn to what you say.So your spamming this thread is useless.

And about, Moto being better, that was the case 7 years back, before 2001. After that, acompany named SE took over. About keypads, the zn5 and the e8 share the award for the worst keypads ever.

At least Moto tries to do things differently..Agreed the Mode Shift technology in Moto keypads takes a little time to get used to..But that doesn't makes it worst...Infact it is a technological revolution in keypads which no other company gives a damn about except making slight variations of the tried and tested pads...Motorola has tried something new and be assured when Moto achieves perfection in it every other XYZ company will follow..It is only Moto vs Rest of all...

And plz visit http://www.cellfanatic.com/2008/06/3...-camera-phones N82 is only better with Xenon flash pictures...At normal times ZN5 is way superior...Just consider it was Moto's first attempt..What will they do in their next..Perhaps kill the competition

[Hitboxx]

And not to mention no company provides a build quality as Motorola, as in the quality of the raw materials and the setup. You only have to hold an E8 to see how balanced it is.

It will always be Moto vs All... absolutely perfect words, better than I could ever describe.

As for the competition and the name game, its just a wave, the strongest tide gets the best wave.

[dreamcatcher]

I respect what Moto has achieved over the years.But, they are plain STUPID. How dare they kick UIQ and linux off their systems when they have no experience in the smartphone sector as such.Now thay are going for WM 6.5, which is a non-TS version of the Win 7.

[Hitboxx]

Hehe, they have no experience in smartphone? Well, they did build the E6 lol, forget all the music and the marketing hogwash, the E6 is the most moddable smartphone to this day, don't say you don't know.

And Windows has always been featured in the Q series. As for Linux and UIQ, I think with the advent of Android now and the state in which Motorola is currently, they are finding it viable and advance with Android to be a better interest. I won't say Linux is out per se, but Android is getting all the attention at the moment.

Again, that doesn't mean they have got it all figured out and are out of the loop, they would probably need another fiscal year to evaluate and get out of the mess they are in now.

[sandeepkochhar]

Very true Hitboxx...Not only E8 but right from their earlier V.. and E.. Series they are extremely moddable...Their is a complete site www.e398mod.com for just a specific set E398 and similar others..Talking about E398 it can be easily flashed to install itunes n lot of other improvements...Tell me one non Moto phone with its proprietary software which is moddable to that extent...Motorola is not only a respectable company in past but it is still today..I hope it will come out of the financial mess...I am not sure of the manufacturing policies if it ever gets sold to any XYZ...Moto rulezz...The materials they use in all their cell phones is top quality be it entry level or top level...No cheap plastics like Nokia n SE..

[dreamcatcher]

Of course.Moto Linux systems rock. But, now they are set to kick it out and opt for Win Mo. Now Linux was Moto's stronghold and which made them different from other cellphone manufacturers People like you and me would have bought the E6 owing to its Mod capabilities and that added to the VFM aspect to Moto phones.Now if they switch to Win MO, their market share will be eaten by the likes of HTC and other Win Mo providers who have better experience in this field.

Try out WinMo, but keep your portfolio intact and liquid.Android is set to release in H2 09 and by then most of the manufacturers would have shifted.LinMo would have verfified Moto its own fan folowing.

[Hitboxx]

Like I said I'm not satisfied about its non-Linux policy, so can't comment further.

But sales are better at the current quarter than the previous one.

Motorola Announces Third-Quarter Financial Results
* Third-quarter sales of $7.5 billion
* Positive operating cash flow of $180 million; total cash position of $7.6 billion
* Separation of the businesses targeted beyond 2009
* Implementing further cost reductions with an estimated annual savings of $800 million in 2009
* Mobile Devices sales of $3.1 billion; shipped 25.4 million handsets
* Home and Networks Mobility sales of $2.4 billion; operating earnings increased to $263 million, an increase of 65 percent compared to the third quarter of last year
* Enterprise Mobility Solutions sales of $2.0 billion; operating earnings increased to $403 million, an increase of 23 percent compared to the third quarter of last year

Source: http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/...eLocaleId=2026

However, if you scroll down that page you will see there are some heavy losses, but things have improved and hopefully Motorola should recover and innovate and push the limits for itself and others in the technological sense ultimately benefitting the consumers.

Things are definitely not as bad as they were

[desiibond]

SE took 3rd position not because of it's superiority but because of Motorola's pathtetic lineup. Don't forget that Motorola is losing mobile phone share quarter-by-quarter. It won't be surprising to see Motorola overtaken by LG too.

PS: SE has 8.6 percent share of the market share. Compare that to Nokia's

[dreamcatcher]

SE is from 2001. Compare that to other manufacturers.
Last year SE's marketsare was 9.58%. They will come back.No doubt.

[desiibond]

that means SE actually lost 1% of market share?

[dheeraj_kumar]

Originally Posted by Hitboxx

And not to mention no company provides a build quality as Motorola

A guy I know dropped a moto razr v3 inside a bus(he was sitting) and it broke... it wasnt too new, wasnt old either.

[ECE0105]

Originally Posted by desiibond

that means SE actually lost 1% of market share?

LOL.......

Lemme see the Fanboy's reply to that one........

I am waiting for the day, when SE releases a real phone that is true VFM.

Till then, happy with my Moto and Nokia...

[dreamcatcher]

Originally Posted by ECE0105

LOL.......

Lemme see the Fanboy's reply to that one........

I am waiting for the day, when SE releases a real phone that is true VFM.

Till then, happy with my Moto and Nokia...

Yea, SE lost 1% market share from last year and Moto lost 5. Samsung gained 1 and Nokia lost 2. LG lost 1 too.

We will talk after Q4 this year.