Help me choose between Dell Inspiron 15R SE vs Samsung 550p

[krish440]

HI Guys i've been seeing huge number of posts comparing Dell inspiron 15R SE and Samsung 550p ..i want to buy one of them please help me which would be better ?? Can Any owners of these laptops post problems of these ..

[Rishi.]

Samsung 550p with Core i7 @57,000 INR is having approximately 20% more performance than The Dell inspiron 15r SE.

The major difference being the Graphic card.
Samsung has Nvidia GT650M , which is currently the fastest multimedia series GPu for Laptops.
Ranks ~35 on Benchmark list , whereas the Dell 15r SE's gpu ranks ~60 in the benchmark list.
Source: NotebookCheck.

Though there is an issue with the temperature of GPU in samsung 550p , reported by several users .

Samsung will clearly take down Dell SE performance and build wise.
Design and appeal may vary from person to person.

IMHO, go for Samsung if you aren't that brand conscious. Although Samsung too is a good brand , but not so much settled in Computer market like Dell.

[aroraanant]

Both are good.Its a tough call between the two.

[SlayerAndy]

I don't know why, but I really doubt Samsung's After sales service. I think Dell takes it away on build, looks and ASS.

[gunner_kanishk]

Let me see. For the same price.

1. Samsung has a faster processor.
2. Better screen.
3. Higher resolution screen. (2 and 3 are different things)
4. Better build quality.
5. Better looks.
6. Much, much better graphic card. The 7730 is actually performing below initial expectations.
7. A blu ray compatible drive.
8. A large keyboard including a numpad.
9. 2 year warranty.

Dell has backlit keyboard though. So that may be a deal breaker instead of the above 9 points. Someone above said they're both good, its a close call. LOL

And yeah, no heating issues on the i7 model at all. I've played over 20 hours by now and not once has it throttled.

[Rishi.]

I think Dell takes it away on build, looks and ASS.

I highly doubt that for this specific comparison.
Although Dell is as such better but not for this comparison.

No idea about after sales though.

And please don't be biased while providing suggestions.

Someone above said they're both good, its a close call. LOL

Lolz , :rofl.

[daksh]

Samsung plusses-
Stated by Kanishk
Minuses-
1. Heats up while extreme (Max Payne 3 on high) , about 90 degs for cpu and 85 for gpu .
2. Some pieces , most of them being i5 ones are throttling after heating up while playing extreme games on high .
Dell plusses -
1. ASS . No questions their ASS is best in the computer market .
2. Weaker GPU doesnt heat up .
3. Backlit keyboard .
Minuses -
1. Doesnt look too good .
2. All the plusses of Samsung .

Now I was also skeptical of buying a Samsung laptop but then i analysed considering past trends that -
1. People were skeptical of buying samsung TV's when Bravias were out there but that changed in a very short span and now Samsung TV sales and services are the best .
2. People were skeptical of buying any samsung phone before the Galaxy series .Heck, even the original galaxy s dint sell well enough in India . But they provided good sevice always and now you know what they are .
3. Samsung are world leaders in consumer electronics .

Considering the above points and the offer of 2 year warranty I took the risk , and I am glad I did coz this is absolutely beautiful .
If I would have bought dell it would have been only for one reason , Accidental coverage . But now I will be careful with my laptop.

I hope this was fair and please do correct me and add on to it where wrong.

Regards.

Ps. And though looks are completely subjective I dint quite like the design of the 15rse ( I checked it out in the showroom ) . It was too rounded and the key placements were weird as it dint have a numpad included. Build quality of both seemed pretty nice .

[Rishi.]

Samsung plusses-
Stated by Kanishk
Minuses-
1. Heats up while extreme (Max Payne 3 on high) , about 90 degs for cpu and 85 for gpu .
2. Some pieces , most of them being i5 ones are throttling after heating up while playing extreme games on high .
Dell plusses -
1. ASS . No questions their ASS is best in the computer market .
2. Weaker GPU doesnt heat up .
3. Backlit keyboard .
Minuses -
1. Doesnt look too good .
2. All the plusses of Samsung .

Now I was also skeptical of buying a Samsung laptop but then i analysed considering past trends that -
1. People were skeptical of buying samsung TV's when Bravias were out there but that changed in a very short span and now Samsung TV sales and services are the best .
2. People were skeptical of buying any samsung phone before the Galaxy series .Heck, even the original galaxy s dint sell well enough in India . But they provided good sevice always and now you know what they are .
3. Samsung are world leaders in consumer electronics .

Considering the above points and the offer of 2 year warranty I took the risk , and I am glad I did coz this is absolutely beautiful .
If I would have bought dell it would have been only for one reason , Accidental coverage . But now I will be careful with my laptop.

I hope this was fair and please do correct me and add on to it where wrong.

Regards.

Ps. And though looks are completely subjective I dint quite like the design of the 15rse ( I checked it out in the showroom ) . It was too rounded and the key placements were weird as it dint have a numpad included. Build quality of both seemed pretty nice .

+1

[Digital Fragger]

If you are not planning to game on your laptop, then you can safely go for samsung since the throttling issue was encountered only during extreme gaming.

If you are planning to game, then samsung, since it has a better gpu. anything heats up on extreme gaming.

I would recommend 550p at least for it's better screen.

But if you want to play safe you can go for inspiron. the machine is capable and can handle latest games atleast in gamer settings and it also has backlit.

[hjthegeek]

Go ahead for Samsung 550P. It is the best value for money laptop available in India. You won't regret your purchase. Regarding the heating issues that is common with all consumer laptops, If the dell had the same gpu it would have heated like the same. Consumer Laptops are not made for gaming. Overall, It is a good deal to go for Samsung 550P.

[gunner_kanishk]

There isn't any heating issue with the Samsung laptop per se.

If anyone makes such a powerful laptop with a great GPU, and you play games at extreme settings on it, it will heat up. It isn't rocket science you know.

None of the i7 owners have faced any throttling issues yet. Those who have seem to be getting them fixed. In anycase if its a driver issue Nvidia will fix it.

[vipulgreattt]

There isn't any heating issue with the Samsung laptop per se.

If anyone makes such a powerful laptop with a great GPU, and you play games at extreme settings on it, it will heat up. It isn't rocket science you know.

None of the i7 owners have faced any throttling issues yet. Those who have seem to be getting them fixed. In anycase if its a driver issue Nvidia will fix it.

Problem isnt the heating as has been mentioned in previous posts that IB processor can take it up. Main problem is throttling. Any multimedia laptop will get heat up while playing games at such settings but throttling is different thing. No one can ignore that and go on his way to buy, as its not like some minute trouble.

[ratul]

Problem isnt the heating as has been mentioned in previous posts that IB processor can take it up. Main problem is throttling. Any multimedia laptop will get heat up while playing games at such settings but throttling is different thing. No one can ignore that and go on his way to buy, as its not like some minute trouble.

well said, what's the point of getting 650m, when you can't use it to full potential, it'll be like having a hayabusa, but not riding it because fuel here in india is too expensive.. (sorry for this lame comparison.. ).
if it's a driver issue, it wud probably be fixed by nvidia, but if it's a placement problem (read that processor and 650m are closely placed in sammy, thus heating each other), then...

I'd go for dell for anyone who wants a laptop for a long run (3+years), and sammy for those, who want more powerful configuration @ lesser cost..
As nobody here @ TDF had any samsung laptops earlier, so the reliability and ASS review for the same would be available by next year by the current sammy owners, so everybody, Choose Wisely...

[antisocialbratt]

^ 100 % agree with you. And about the plus points mentioned by gunner: Dude looks vary from person to person. Some would feel the Samsung is better for their taste and some would like Dell. You can't call it as a plus point. Its just that you are being a fanboy after the purchase.
All of you are justifying your purchase by saying that we have solved the heating problem by putting two books sunder the laptop or by using the coolerpad. That is the height of fanboyism. A laptop is not supposed to be used in that way. A person buys a laptop so that he can comfortably use it in his lap. Fact is that you should not have to do all that work to make laptop run properly after paying close to 55K.
If you are expecting the driver update to make the heating go away, then keep on dreaming. At best what nvidia would do is release a update which would cap the core clock, shader clock and memory clock to a lower level to keep the GPU cool. Eventually you would lose the edge 650m has over the other laptop GPU's. There a reason why some laptops have 650m LE version in them. Cuz It runs hotter and thus they had to include a better cooling design which would eventually result in increase of overall price.

Here are the points which no Samsung owner has mentioned:

1)Samsung used a i7 which is slightly faster than the dell but consumes more power and produce more heat. Very rarely you would run a program which would use i7's full power thus in real life usage you would never notice the difference in processors unless you run a benchmark. So you gotta ask yourself, is tolerating more heat really worth it?

2) 650m is a beast, there is no doubt about it. It just obliterates the 7730m and 640m. But you can't use it to its full potential without a proper cooling system. Which sadly Sammsung has not provided. Thus the heat from this and the hotter i7 combines with a poor cooling design thus resulting in the throttling you see.

So if you do want to game on your laptop then Samsung is the better choice then Dell but you have to think about investing a 1000 or 2000 bucks more for a cooling pad and get used to carrying the pad with you if you intend to game on the go.

On the other hand if you can forget about the 25% loss in the gaming performance then look no further than Dell. Its a perfect multimedia machine, runs cooler and has better battery life because of the low power consuming GPU and CPU. After Sale Support of Dell is the best in the market and there is no comparison to it. It was hilarious to see someone pointing ASS of samsung as a pro to Dell.

[har]

Everyone is acting like though the throttling issue is something extreme or something. I faced it once for 15 sec in around 1.5 hours of gaming at 1600*900 res at ultra at 60fps+(7730m cant even dream of that) in Arkham Asylum. Many owners and not facing it anymore. Its really no big deal. The laptop temperatures are perfectly normal !! Its max 90 degrees which is among the coolest ivy bridge. The only fanboyism is see is someone who is trying to justify his own purchase and not waiting for a particular new favourite

And who the hell gave you the idea of a gt650m LE ?? There is no such thing
And the cooling system of samsung is bad ? Hilarious
So its worse than the new MBP and dv6 which runs above 100 degree celcius ?
And a hayabusa which runs at 300km/h for 99.9% of the time is much better than a cbr250r which runs at 200 km/h for 100% of time.

[Rishi.]

It was hilarious to see someone pointing ASS of samsung as a pro to Dell.

Nobody mentioned that , everyone knows the truth.

I can smell a lot of Fanboy-ism here.

[abhishekmaha]

+1 to har...

antisocialbratt, don't turn into the same fanboy you accuse everybody of being...

throttling can be controlled by taking a small break by minimizing the game for a few minutes (this trick was mentioned by daksh)...just drink some water or something...it's good for the eyes...
samsung ass may not be as good as dell(i dont know personally)...but they at least do the job eventually...are you really going to abuse your laptop that badly to require accidental onsite warranty??

[Rishi.]

Somebody said Samsung comes with I7 and the Dell one doens't.
Lolz , there are I7 versions of Dell SE too.

So the point ."

1)Samsung used a i7 which is slightly faster than the dell but consumes more power and produce more heat. Very rarely you would run a program which would use i7's full power thus in real life usage you would never notice the difference in processors unless you run a benchmark. So you gotta ask yourself, is tolerating more heat really worth it?

does it makes any sense ?? Seriously ?? keeping in mind that they both have I7 version and i5 version ?

[antisocialbratt]

Yes it does if you try to do a little research. Both dell and Samsung has i7 but both are different models. One is 3612QM and other is 3610QM.

[har]

Yes it does if you try to do a little research. Both dell and Samsung has i7 but both are different models. One is 3612QM and other is 3610QM.

So you are bashing samsung because its got a better proccy ?

[ratul]

So you are bashing samsung because its got a better proccy ?

well, please don't start a war here..

And please, stay away from processor point of view everybody, as i have'nt seen anybody using an i7 @ it's full potential, so 3612 & 3610 won't make any performance difference until you are into some hardcore animation or video editing.. (Me editing some videos, and i7 barely reaches above 60%)..

All the things come to one point:
Samsung: For those who want more performance than 15r.
DELL: For those who want more reliability with the product.

Remember that it was me, who introduced this SAMMY first time, and then no one was eager to even see it, and now..

[har]

well, please don't start a war here..

And please, stay away from processor point of view everybody, as i have'nt seen anybody using an i7 @ it's full potential, so 3612 & 3610 won't make any performance difference until you are into some hardcore animation or video editing.. (Me editing some videos, and i7 barely reaches above 60%)..

All the things come to one point:
Samsung: For those who want more performance than 15r.
DELL: For those who want more reliability with the product.

Remember that it was me, who introduced this SAMMY first time, and then no one was eager to even see it, and now..

Well no one really believed the price to be true so
And there is no guarentee the dell will be more reliable. My battery wear levels are still 0% unlike dell owners who bought around my time whose already show 4%(This after I accidentely played AC2 at ultra for 2 hrs on battery )

And come on dude can you really justify anything antisocialbratt is saying ?
The +points in sammy are way too long. Just accept its a better lappy. In a month new laptops far superior to the sammy will come and I WILL accept that. But currently its the best.

[ratul]

Well no one really believed the price to be true so
And there is no guarentee the dell will be more reliable. My battery wear levels are still 0% unlike dell owners who bought around my time whose already show 4%(This after I accidentely played AC2 at ultra for 2 hrs on battery )

And come on dude can you really justify anything antisocialbratt is saying ?
The +points in sammy are way too long. Just accept its a better lappy. In a month new laptops far superior to the sammy will come and I WILL accept that. But currently its the best.

I never said that sammy is'nt better, i wrote earlier that sammy for those who want more performance than 15r..
But, believe it, now that you own your sammy, you are skeptical about dell's reliability, but some time ago if you remember, you had your eyes on dell.. (fanboyism..)
Reliability and ASS of dell will be superior for now, as i experienced it past week, as you are also a new owner of sammy, spend almost a year with it, then post reviews about the ASS and reliability, so as to avoid this type of comparisons in coming years..

[har]

I know. Dell has very good ASS but very very bad reliabilty(According to last years lineup)
Dell XPS 15 was extremely bad on reliability. Believe it or not, Samsung is the new king of Reliability in Windows PC. See new PCWorld reliabilty ratings. Dell is really down. Dell has really poor batteries too and proof is the extremely high battery wear levels.

[ratul]

I know. Dell has very good ASS but very very bad reliabilty(According to last years lineup)
Dell XPS 15 was extremely bad on reliability. Believe it or not, Samsung is the new king of Reliability in Windows PC. See new PCWorld reliabilty ratings. Dell is really down. Dell has really poor batteries too and proof is the extremely high battery wear levels.

PCWorld???
dude, we are in india, where even PCWorld will take a hit on the floor..
Yes, batteries are the worse aspect of dell.. , but remember that XPS is definitely considered as the worst lineup by dell, and inspiron is the best selling lineup for them, as many users here in TDF were owners of dell for past many years, so it's reliability can be justified, but sammy users are very few (now on a grow), you yourself did'nt completed even a month with it, how you can make it a king..
As i said, spend some more time with it (a year or so), and then post a full hand review here..
Till then, enjoy Gaming..

[aroraanant]

XPS is definitely considered as the worst lineup by dell

Thats not true.
XPS users are much more satisfied and happy when compared to Inspiron users.

[ratul]

Thats not true.
XPS users are much more satisfied and happy when compared to Inspiron users.

those who bought it are satisfied, but not dell..
A guy from dell in the shop told me that i7 is introduced in inspiron models only to replace XPS, as the sales were'nt as high as was expected by dell, so from dell's side, it was considered a big failure..

[randomuser111]

Well I think its not a tough decision. And the arguments happening aren't really necessary either.

If someone wants most bang for his buck, Samsung is the pick for sure. It has better performance than the Dell model.

On the other hand if someone cares more about after sales then Dell should be the first choice.

And har good to hear your battery wear level is 0% . How much battery backup do you get ?

Also can a dell Inspiron 15/14 SE owner share their battery wear figure ? It seems quite strange that wear would be so high in under a month.

[har]

PCWorld???
dude, we are in india, where even PCWorld will take a hit on the floor..
Yes, batteries are the worse aspect of dell.. , but remember that XPS is definitely considered as the worst lineup by dell, and inspiron is the best selling lineup for them, as many users here in TDF were owners of dell for past many years, so it's reliability can be justified, but sammy users are very few (now on a grow), you yourself did'nt completed even a month with it, how you can make it a king..
As i said, spend some more time with it (a year or so), and then post a full hand review here..
Till then, enjoy Gaming..

May I ask whats funny ? Dell ASS is definitely much much better but the product quality is better with samsung. Thas all PCWorld is pointing out. We get the same samsung models as others worldwide so quality will be same. Whereas dell makes them in their chennai plant and quality will be lower than other dells abroad.

Samsung is a much better and bigger company than dell. Infact dell sources 0.87 trillion DRAM, flat-panels, lithium-ion batteries, etc from samsung. They have been in the pc business for some years and are really popular especially in europe and canada. The suspect reliability everyone is stating holds no ground really against samsung. ASS though,they really need to improve. I totally agree with that. But its samsung !! It will only take a matter of time just like they conquered the mobile and lcd market in India

[ratul]

Well I think its not a tough decision. And the arguments happening aren't really necessary either.

If someone wants most bang for his buck, Samsung is the pick for sure. It has better performance than the Dell model.

On the other hand if someone cares more about after sales then Dell should be the first choice.

And har good to hear your battery wear level is 0% . How much battery backup do you get ?

Also can a dell Inspiron 15/14 SE owner share their battery wear figure ? It seems quite strange that wear would be so high in under a month.

well, mine is 5% after a month..

May I ask whats funny ? Dell ASS is definitely much much better but the product quality is better with samsung. Thas all PCWorld is pointing out. We get the same samsung models as others worldwide so quality will be same. Whereas dell makes them in their chennai plant and quality will be lower than other dells abroad.

Samsung is a much better and bigger company than dell. Infact dell sources 0.87 trillion DRAM, flat-panels, lithium-ion batteries, etc from samsung. They have been in the pc business for some years and are really popular especially in europe and canada. The suspect reliability everyone is stating holds no ground really against samsung. ASS though,they really need to improve. I totally agree with that. But its samsung !! It will only take a matter of time just like they conquered the mobile and lcd market in India

ok fanboy, so you want to hear that samsung is better, here..

SAMSUNG IS BETTER>>>>DELL

Now could we end this argument???