Best 3rd gen i5 or i7 laptop ?

[vkl]

HP Pavilion DV6-7010TX is currently the best option for you, people are avoiding because it has not that good GPU as new inspiron has. hp has nice chiclet style full keyboard price is about 58-60k in the market with ivy bridge core-i7 and GT 630M. New models are coming next month with 35W processor and better integrated graphics to compete inspiron 15R SE.
If you are talking about lenovo Thinkpads, I will say yes they are good but wait for sometime.. the new ivy bridge models not came yet. Don't think about ideapads they are waste of money.

Also take a look on new ivy bridge's HP ProBook 4540s. It has no integrated graphics but awesomely design to use for long with upto 7 hours of battery life.

I dont know why you are after ideapads.If you are saying their build quality is not good then I don't agree with you.As for ASS of lenovo it might be different in different regions.Lenovo Y570 had good built quality.It had one of the best keyboards.JBL speaker was nice.They had a different version of gt555m which was less powerful than the other versions but was still faster than dGpu provided by other laptops in that price range barring HP6121/6165/6017/6140tx
models.I agree that on some of its budget models like its G series don't have that bright display.But we cant say that would be the case always.
Commenting about a company's RMA/ASS in a region is ok, but generalizing your
perceptions I don't think so.Generally all laptops have their share of negatives.Not everything is perfect.

If people keep on generalizing and say things like "Hp is crap,heats a lot"
"Lenovo has crap built quality" "Sony Vaio laptops are overpriced" etc.
then why do people wait for new products, why do reviewers review it.

Things have changed with HP laptops regarding heating issues.Sony provides the cheapest possible full hd laptops.Exceptions are there everywhere.Nothing is constant.
I think it would be better to wait for product reviews than saying things like this.

[far]

@vkl...any model suggestions for me ?

[rider]

I dont know why you are after ideapads.If you are saying their build quality is not good then I don't agree with you.As for ASS of lenovo it might be different in different regions.Lenovo Y570 had good built quality.It had one of the best keyboards.JBL speaker was nice.

Where I said anything about lenovo build quality. I said coz there service is horrible in north region.

They had a different version of gt555m which was less powerful than the other versions but was still faster than dGpu provided by other laptops in that price range barring HP6121/6165/6017/6140tx

What are you saying, bro?
Those hp laptops are with HD 6770M and in benchmarks and HD 6770M (hp version) = GT 555M (alineware version)
e.g.
3D Mark HD 6770M = 1350
3D Mark GT 555M = 1370
The that lenovo model is very downgraded version of GT 555M so much worse in gaming performance. Ask anyone in hp dv6 forum.

If people keep on generalizing and say things like "Hp is crap,heats a lot"
"Lenovo has crap built quality" "Sony Vaio laptops are overpriced" etc.
then why do people wait for new products, why do reviewers review it.

Things have changed with HP laptops regarding heating issues.Sony provides the cheapest possible full hd laptops.Exceptions are there everywhere.Nothing is constant.
I think it would be better to wait for product reviews than saying things like this.

And for vaio cheap models, they are still overpriced.. they are still with lowest performing graphic cards in their budget and completely plastic built,even the touchpad, I saw in 55k cb series laptop.
Last year hp was providing cheapest 1080p model for 49-50k, with metallic finish.. now the whole series get discontinued soon replacing by new models.
No laptop is perfect, I know but priorities makes to choose laptops.
For today, dell inspiron special editions are real VFM, read previous comments the user don't want to buy that as it has no full-keyboard.

[vkl]

@rider
Read my lines properly.I said it was a downgraded gt555m and it was slower than the dGPU in HP 6165tx models.
But it was still faster than gt540m offered in dell laptops then.Dell offered gt555m but that was in xps which was priced more.

Originally posted by rider

And for vaio cheap models, they are still overpriced.. they are still with lowest performing graphic cards in their budget and completely plastic built,even the touchpad, I saw in 55k cb series laptop.

I dont think hd6630m is that bad a graphic card.
Sony Vaio offered full hd models with decent graphics in sub-50k price here.
I dont think HP offered any full hd model in that price range with that decent a graphic card in India.
And "plastic" doesn't mean bad built quality.

My friends with hp 3043tx suffered from heating issues.It was real bad.Had to replace some parts.But HP didn't pay for that.So should i start saying that
"HP laptops are a waste of money".
As for ASS it varies from region to region.
So there's no point in saying that a thing is "crap" or "waste of money"

@ @ndroid_rocks

At this moment the dell inspiron 15r special edition are the one to go for.They come with preinstalled WIN7 that you need.Other models from hp have also arrived with preinstalled win7 but they are priced higher for what they offer.

Else if you can wait then look for newer models from different brands.In two months time many newer models would have arrived.

[aroraanant]

@VKL
The build quality of Lenovo is not good, you won't experience that in the starting but you will get to know that after 1-2yrs down the line.
If you want to know more about its ASS then I think google will help you better, I can only tell you what I have experienced.
Though some years back Lenovo laptops were good in terms of build quality but the time has changed these days, the same is the case with Toshiba.
I only comment on things which I have experienced, some other people say that just after reading reviews or just reading it from somewhere.
If you don't believe me then go on and buy a Lenovo dude.We don't have any problem.
What we do here is we suggest people what is best in their budget from what we have experienced.
Lenovo battery gets kaput sooner than the dell inspirons also.
There are a lot of other things too.
Please take the help of Mr. google for the same.
It is possible that it(Lenovo ASS) is good in your region but if see it other cities it is bad almost everywhere as I have experienced the same in many cities of Punjab,UP and Delhi too.

[vkl]

@aroraanant
Look not every model is same.Not every model uses same battery.My friend's Y570 is nearly one year old and i can say that he has faced no problems till now.Same goes with z570.Similarly Hp had heating issues with most of their dv6 laptops once.But things have changed.My friends are using hp6121tx,6165tx and other pavilion models(dv6 and g-series) and i can say you that they remain quite cool and provide decent battery life.
Lenovo last generation G-series dont have that bright display.But last year's y-series and z-series have good enough built quality.
And why should I buy a lenovo laptop when i have enough experience from my friends' laptops.

My point here is why not wait for newer generations of laptops than commenting before it has even arrived.

[rider]

@rider
Read my lines properly.I said it was a downgraded gt555m and it was slower than the dGPU in HP 6165tx models.
But it was still faster than gt540m offered in dell laptops then.Dell offered gt555m but that was in xps which was priced more.


I dont think hd6630m is that bad a graphic card.
Sony Vaio offered full hd models with decent graphics in sub-50k price here.
I dont think HP offered any full hd model in that price range with that decent a garphic card in India.
And "plastic" doesn't mean bad built quality.

My friends with hp 3043tx suffered from heating issues.It was real bad.Had to replace some parts.But HP didn't pay for that.So should i start saying that
"HP laptops are a waste of money".
As for ASS it varies from region to region.
So there's no point in saying that a thing is "crap" or "waste of m one"

@ @ndroid_rocks

At this moment the dell inspiron 15r special edition are the one to go for.They come with preinstalled WIN7 that you need.Other models from hp have also arrived with preinstalled win7 but they are priced higher for what they offer.

Else if you can wait then look for newer models from different brands.In two months time many newer models would have arrived.

hp 3043tx is an old bad model, nowadays hp is providing awesome ASS and free damage protection warranty for a year. All parts are replaceable if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.

@aroraanant
Look not every model is same.Not every model uses same battery.My friend's Y570 is nearly one year old and i can say that he has faced no problems till now.Same goes with z570.Similarly Hp had heating issues with most of their dv6 laptops once.But things have changed.My friends are using hp6121tx,6165tx and other pavilion models(dv6 and g-series) and i can say you that they remain quite cool and provide decent battery life.
Lenovo last generation G-series dont have that bright display.But last year's y-series and z-series have good enough built quality.
And why should I buy a lenovo laptop when i have enough experience from my friends' laptops.

My point here is why not wait for newer generations of laptops than commenting before it has even arrived.

It's your money buy a lenovo ideapad. If you regret it, remember we warned you.

[randomuser111]

^
That's nice to hear

And I'd have to agree too, the Lenovo Ideapad build quality is definitely sub par. Even most review sites agree.

[far]

if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.

Which region are you from ?

[vkl]

hp 3043tx is an old bad model, nowadays hp is providing awesome ASS and free damage protection warranty for a year. All parts are replaceable if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions.

^^nice to read that.
One year before that their was nothing like that from HP.
Now this year Lenovo is providing 1 Year Accidental Damage Protection.

originally posted by rider
It's your money buy a lenovo ideapad. If you regret it, remember we warned you.

when i have to buy i will buy by selecting what best suits my needs.I wont buy looking at brands.Instead I will read some reviews(users' and reviewers'),look at the ASS of the company in my area and then take decision.

My point is that there is simply no need of commenting crap stuffs when newer products haven't even arrived.

[aroraanant]

All parts are replaceable if I just make them call, I recently broke my DVD burner and call them to fix, they send an engineer next day with a new writer to change without any questions

Well every company does that, many of friends has got that changed in their dell laptops

[rider]

Well every company does that, many of friends has got that changed in their dell laptops

It is started by dell laptop, now hp laptops following this, only those which come with damage cover do this. BTW is vaio providing damage cover?

[vkl]

@ @ndroid_rocks

Sony VIAO E Series SVE15118FN @56k
HP Pavilion DV6-7010TX @59k
Both the models have full keyboard and have win7 preinstalled.
HP 7010tx comes with a bit better processor,more RAM,3 usb3.0 ports,640GB hdd.It also has 1 Year Onsite Accidental Damage Protection and costs 59k.
The Viao has more storage space(750GB) and is cheaper.

If you would wait and buy later then newer models would have arrived and you might get a better deal then.

[far]

Thanks...

Yea.. I would wait for a better deal in the meantime.. looking out for VFM products.

[neha31]

@android_rocks- I guess my laptop requirements are same as of yours...
Please help me if you have found an option....

I would be buying my first laptop..basically for coding purposes(using heavy applications like netbeans/eclipse,oracle etc for programming)
I was going for 15R SE but I am not just happy with its looks..
Can anyone suggest a better option for my purpose..??
I was considering hp but cudn't get a third generation one...my budget is upto 55k
Please help me ,its been a month of wait for me now..and i don't want to wait anymore...
Also will it really matter much if i go for a second generation in hp..?
I am preferring
-third generation i5
-4 GB RAM
-500 GB hard disk
PS-I am no gamer!

[far]

On a second thought... you can look into G6 2005 AX , 4 GB , 500 GB for 32k.. Its not intel but AMD A8 quadcore... I beleive.. this quadcore would suffice the multitaksing in programming... plus no gaming...

Looks are pretty decent than 15 R SE ... Why not give a thought of going for this.. which can run easily for 3 years... then buy a high end one ...later down the line 2~ 3 yrs... think about it...

If you want only 3rd gen i5 gotta wait for couple of weeks atleast to get new models for comparison..

[randomuser111]

@neha31

SVE15118FN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India

3rd gen Quad Core i7
4 GB RAM
750 GB HDD
AMD 7650M 2GB GPU
15.5 inch
Backlit keyboard

57990 MRP

After Discount 55k (or below, if you are good at bargaining)

[neha31]

On a second thought... you can look into G6 2005 AX , 4 GB , 500 GB for 32k.. Its not intel but AMD A8 quadcore... I beleive.. this quadcore would suffice the multitaksing in programming... plus no gaming...

Looks are pretty decent than 15 R SE ... Why not give a thought of going for this.. which can run easily for 3 years... then buy a high end one ...later down the line 2~ 3 yrs... think about it...

If you want only 3rd gen i5 gotta wait for couple of weeks atleast to get new models for comparison..

Basically I was considering this to go through my final year(engineering) and initial years of my job...until i earn enough...
yeah..I know i should wait but i am tired using my desktop for projects!
want one asap...therefore was thinking of 15R SE..
As suggested.....I think i am considering this one as the best option for me right now..
HP Pavilion G4 Series G4-2036TU Laptop (Sparkling Black) (3rd Gen Ci5/ 4GB/ 500GB/ Win7HB)

[neha31]

@neha31

SVE15118FN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India

3rd gen Quad Core i7
4 GB RAM
750 GB HDD
AMD 7650M 2GB GPU
15.5 inch
Backlit keyboard

57990 MRP

After Discount 55k (or below, if you are good at bargaining)

Actually..I was confused....some ppl advised me not to go for a vaio just for its design and looks..According to them dell and hp are better than vaio in performance...
you think i should consider sony vaio in my options..coz i completely discarded it...are they good..?.

@randomuser1111
how about this
SVE14116GNB -MRP Rs 48,990 /-*
SVE14116GN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
-Intel® Core™ i5-3320M
-500 GB hard disk
-4 GB RAM
-no dedicated garphics..Intel® HD Graphics 4000
I was browsing vaio laptops and this one also caught my eye..although it doesn't have a backlit keyboard...
Any suggestions..?

[sam]

Actually..I was confused....some ppl advised me not to go for a vaio just for its design and looks..According to them dell and hp are better than vaio in performance...
you think i should consider sony vaio in my options..coz i completely discarded it...are they good..?.

they are right but i am sure they have mainly checked the entry level Vaio that cost around 30-35k. Those look great but the configuration is really poor. But once you cross the 50k mark you can have some descent laptops with Full HD screen, descent internals and Sony's trademark i.e. great looks

check this: Sony Vaio VPCCB35FN/B

[randomuser111]

Actually..I was confused....some ppl advised me not to go for a vaio just for its design and looks..According to them dell and hp are better than vaio in performance...
you think i should consider sony vaio in my options..coz i completely discarded it...are they good..?.

@randomuser1111
how about this
SVE14116GNB -MRP Rs 48,990 /-*
SVE14116GN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
-Intel® Core™ i5-3320M
-500 GB hard disk
-4 GB RAM
-no dedicated garphics..Intel® HD Graphics 4000
I was browsing vaio laptops and this one also caught my eye..although it doesn't have a backlit keyboard...
Any suggestions..?

Well what they mean is Dell and HP offer better hardware for the same price as Sony. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't look at Sony.

The model you chose is quite good. You can get upto 6% discount on the MRP so you should be able to get this model for around 46k.

[rider]

Actually..I was confused....some ppl advised me not to go for a vaio just for its design and looks..According to them dell and hp are better than vaio in performance...
you think i should consider sony vaio in my options..coz i completely discarded it...are they good..?.

@randomuser1111
how about this
SVE14116GNB -MRP Rs 48,990 /-*
SVE14116GN : E Series : VAIO Laptop & Computer : Sony India
-Intel® Core™ i5-3320M
-500 GB hard disk
-4 GB RAM
-no dedicated garphics..Intel® HD Graphics 4000
I was browsing vaio laptops and this one also caught my eye..although it doesn't have a backlit keyboard...
Any suggestions..?

Vaios are great for a non-gamers you will get same performance in coding like you will get in hp or dell 3rd gen processor. hp-dell are better for gaming performance and cheap maintenance.
Don't buy an ultrabook you will not get performance like mainstream laptops like these.

[neha31]

@rider and randomuser111
Thanks a lot guys!
I think I would be buying SVE14116GNB by tomorrow!!!!
Thanks again!!!

[neha31]

@Sam
I guess you are right...I think it will be sony vaio SVE14116GNB for me!!!!!

Just one last doubt..
Through employee discount..i am able to get 15R SE in around 49000(including taxes)
along with a bagpack
notebook mouse,
and mcafee security-15 months
Do you think I should compromise in looks and go for it...(and forget abt vaio as evryone says it is overpriced)
Or Vaio would be the right choice ??
If anybdy can give an opinion...

[randomuser111]

Specs of the 15R SE you are getting for 49k ? If you are getting better specs then go for the 15R SE. Otherwise get the Vaio and pay 2490 and get 2 years additional warranty. 2+1 = 3 years peace of mind.

[neha31]

Specs of the 15R SE you are getting for 49k ? If you are getting better specs then go for the 15R SE. Otherwise get the Vaio and pay 2490 and get 2 years additional warranty. 2+1 = 3 years peace of mind.

Yeah definitly better specs than vaio
See the comparison where there is difrnce
SVE14116GNB
Hard Disk 500 GB
Graphics- Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Backlit KeyBoard- No
Accessories- (don't know)

15R SE
Hard Disk: 1 TB
Graphics: AMD Radeon™ HD 7730M DDR3 2GB
Backlit KeyBoard: Yes
Accessories: Notebook Mouse,Targus bagpack
and they both cost me the same around 48-49k
Only thing that is bothering me is SE looks...therefore should I compromise on looks..?

[randomuser111]

specs are great!

I'd say yes ! Compromise on looks and get the 15R SE

[rider]

for you dell @49k is better value for money product. But the more use of plastic is not much appealing for many customers like you. Also dell is providing accidental damage cover which is a very useful thing, if any physical harm happen to your laptop dell will replace with a new one.

for you dell is more vfm and comes with damage cover.

[neha31]

@rider and randomuser111
Okay...I'l keep this in mind while deciding!
Thanks for the suggestions!

[far]

Any new i5 or i7 models barring the samsung 550p ?