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29-09-2008, 09:17 PM
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Right Off the Assembly Line
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Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Hey guys, I am in a dillema.
I have a compaq presario desktop(bought in march 2003) with AMD Athlon XP 2000+ andsome old motherboard(cant remember  ) and a 40GB 5400 rpm HDD with 16mb onboard graphics and 384mb ddr266 ram.
Let me divide the problem in 2 parts.
1. I want to change my computer. But should I go for an upgrade (processor+MB+HDD+Graphics Card+RAM) or should I rather buy a new branded PC?  Which is better in terms of price effectiveness and in terms of reliability? (if branded, do give some suggestions with the specifications.)
My upgrade budget is Rs. 15000-20000, Branded budget is Rs. 45000-47000
I want the PC to be future proof(future as in 2yrs approx), ie. easily upgradeable. Please do mention the motherboard campany and chipset.
2. Is it true that an upgrade is a risky option(the components may not be as reliable as in a branded pc)?
I would be most greatful to you guys if you help me on this problem  . I'm waiting for your suggestions guys.  
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29-09-2008, 09:58 PM
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Right Off the Assembly Line
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Iol I am in a similar position as u are.
I would suggest u get rid of old rig completely and buy a new one but not branded.
For 40k,you would get awesome rig by assembling .
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E 5.4k
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 5.2k
RAM: Transcend 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz 1.8k
GPU: Xpert Vision HD 4850 512MB 9.6k
HDD: Seagate 7200.11 500GB ST3500320AS SATAII 2.9k
Cabinet: Cooler Master Elite 33X ATX 1.7k
SMPS: Corsair VX 450W 3.2k
Optical Drive: L.G. H62N 20x IDE / Samsung 203B/D 20x SATA 1.2k
Speakers: Altech Lansing VS4121 2.6k
Monitor: ViewSonic 19" VG1930WM / Dell SE198WFP / L.G. L194WT 8.5k
Keyboard: Logitech Multimedia .5k
Mouse: Logitech MX518 1.35k
~~44,000
wait for what other techies have to say..
But I am sure u will not get such a rig for branded one
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30-09-2008, 12:44 AM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Keep the budget of a new assembled PC @40k please......so we can suggest you a good PC.
E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
WD Caviar SE16 640GB 7200RPM HDD
Palit HD4850
Corsair VX450W PSU
LG H55n Drive
CM Elite 330 cabinet
Dell E198WFP 19" LCD
Logitech Gaming G1 Desktop kbd+mouse
Altec Lansing BXR1121 2.1 speakers
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30-09-2008, 01:17 AM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^ Nice Config. +1.
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30-09-2008, 08:18 AM
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Point Blanc
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
I hope you got monitor already so except for monitor you can buy new specs, or say just a CPU as suggested by others.
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30-09-2008, 01:38 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Here's one:
E7200 @ 5.4k
MSI P43 NEO @ 4.9k
HD 4850 @ 9.5k
ViewSonic 1940VX @ 10.5k
2x1GB DDR2 1066MHz @ 4k
250GB Seagate 7200.10 @ 3.2k
Corsair VX 450 @ 3.7k
Zebronice Bijli @ 1.3k
Logitech Laser Mouse @ 0.7k
Keyboard(logitech or Razer Tarancula) @ 0.8k
Check more options with prices:::
Hardware price list/spec sheet
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30-09-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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Originally Posted by comp@ddict
Here's one:
E7200 @ 5.4k
MSI P43 NEO @ 4.9k
HD 4850 @ 9.5k
ViewSonic 1940VX @ 10.5k
2x1GB DDR2 1066MHz @ 4k
250GB Seagate 7200.10 @ 3.2k
Corsair VX 450 @ 3.7k
Zebronice Bijli @ 1.3k
Logitech Laser Mouse @ 0.7k
Keyboard(logitech or Razer Tarancula) @ 0.8k
Check more options with prices:::
Hardware price list/spec sheet
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Hope he already have a monitor..
Go for KPowerMania's config...Best VFM...
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30-09-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
First, if you actually ask the question "is assembled better or branded", that means you know little or nothing about computer parts. If that is the case, you would find it difficult to troubleshoot the PC if something goes wrong. So I strongly suggest you get a branded PC unless you have a friend who has sufficient knowledge about PCs to help you out.
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30-09-2008, 09:12 PM
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Point Blanc
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Metal anyhow, assembled is better than branded, if he gets any problem, he will take to the shopkeeper and get it checked there. Eventually all companies are supporting their products.
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01-10-2008, 01:12 AM
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IronMan; Ready to Roll...
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^ Exactly. But Branded PCs have support for more than hardware problems.
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01-10-2008, 01:48 AM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^Ya and it comes with Windows pre-installed(atleast in the PCs which cost 30k+) and it is genuine too  .
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01-10-2008, 01:53 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Well, widout monitor if u keep the budget at 45k Then have a look at this.
Q6600 G0 @ 9k
Biostar i45 @ 7k
HD 4870 @ 16.5k
CM 330
VX 450
Gaming Kbd/Mouse Logitech
BenQ 21.5" @ 13.5k
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02-10-2008, 05:06 PM
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Right Off the Assembly Line
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Thanks a ton guys! Your help was much needed by me.
Actually, I used to be an avid techgeek about a year or so ago, but now the pressures of Indian school curriculum(10th and +2) have diverted me from all this. So I was not in touch with the current developements in technology. Hence the dilemma.
The thing is, my father was told by the shopkeeper at a computer store that assembled PCs were not much good in terms of reliability and servicing. So my father became anti to an assembled PC. I knew, with my prior knowledge (a lot courtesy DIGIT), that I could build my dream machine if I go for assembled. Your posts have changed papa's mind, and I am very happy now.
God bless you all!
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02-10-2008, 07:35 PM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^AWESOME!!!.......assembled ftw...
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02-10-2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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Originally Posted by blazkowicz
Thanks a ton guys! Your help was much needed by me.
Actually, I used to be an avid techgeek about a year or so ago, but now the pressures of Indian school curriculum(10th and +2) have diverted me from all this. So I was not in touch with the current developements in technology. Hence the dilemma.
The thing is, my father was told by the shopkeeper at a computer store that assembled PCs were not much good in terms of reliability and servicing. So my father became anti to an assembled PC. I knew, with my prior knowledge (a lot courtesy DIGIT), that I could build my dream machine if I go for assembled. Your posts have changed papa's mind, and I am very happy now.
God bless you all!
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I know, and totally agree to your view...I'm a tenthie too
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02-10-2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Ab koi mere baap ko bhi samjhao ye sab!  Woh to abhi bhi apne celeron 1Ghz 256 MB RAM laptop se khush hain.
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02-10-2008, 08:40 PM
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Alpha Geek
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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Originally Posted by IronManForever
Ab koi mere baap ko bhi samjhao ye sab!  Woh to abhi bhi apne celeron 1Ghz 256 MB RAM laptop se khjush hain. 
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well they don't need what u need so for their need its enough ....
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02-10-2008, 09:42 PM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Ya......they dont need to play Crysis with everything maxed out  .
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02-10-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazkowicz
Hey guys, I am in a dillema.
I have a compaq presario desktop(bought in march 2003) with AMD Athlon XP 2000+ andsome old motherboard(cant remember  ) and a 40GB 5400 rpm HDD with 16mb onboard graphics and 384mb ddr266 ram.
Let me divide the problem in 2 parts.
1. I want to change my computer. But should I go for an upgrade (processor+MB+HDD+Graphics Card+RAM) or should I rather buy a new branded PC?  Which is better in terms of price effectiveness and in terms of reliability? (if branded, do give some suggestions with the specifications.)
My upgrade budget is Rs. 15000-20000, Branded budget is Rs. 45000-47000
I want the PC to be future proof(future as in 2yrs approx), ie. easily upgradeable. Please do mention the motherboard campany and chipset.
2. Is it true that an upgrade is a risky option(the components may not be as reliable as in a branded pc)?
I would be most greatful to you guys if you help me on this problem  . I'm waiting for your suggestions guys.   
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I GOT SOME RIG WHICH IS 35000 WITH OUT MONITOR ---- TENDS TO HDTV AND FOR ULTIMATE GAMING
E8500 C2DUO -----------9200
BIOSTAR i45 -----------7000
palit hd 4850 --------------9300
2 gigs of ram 800 ----------1900
wd 320bg hdd ---------------3000
dvd samsung/lg -------------1000
cooler master extreme power 600 watts ----3200
case (cabinet) any of ur design-------------1100
total 35000--------36000 /////////////////     
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02-10-2008, 10:35 PM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^Change your keyboard.....it has some problem with the Caps Lock button. 
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02-10-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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^^Change your keyboard.....it has some problem with the Caps Lock button.  
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Hahaha... nice way to say 'fu*k off"
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02-10-2008, 10:49 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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03-10-2008, 01:55 AM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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03-10-2008, 06:19 AM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
^^We dont hate you or ignore you but you need to improve upon your typing. Your posts dont make sense because of innapropriate spacing and spelling errors. Otherwise, nothing personal  .
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03-10-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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Dude, we come make friends(although not joint ventures)
U'll hav to be jus a li'l careful while typing(not a warning, as an advice frm a friend)
Well, I'll tell u how I improved my typing, TUXType2, and I'm not joking.
I use all 8 fingers(litle fingers r a bit weak still) and my typo speed went up from a petty 45wpm to 68wpm in a month
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03-10-2008, 02:07 PM
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Alpha Geek
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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Originally Posted by comp@ddict
Dude, we come make friends(although not joint ventures)
U'll hav to be jus a li'l careful while typing(not a warning, as an advice frm a friend)
Well, I'll tell u how I improved my typing, TUXType2, and I'm not joking.
I use all 8 fingers(litle fingers r a bit weak still) and my typo speed went up from a petty 45wpm to 68wpm in a month
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thanks about telling about tuxtype ..i will try it out ..i hope ..it does any good to me ....thanks once again ..
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03-10-2008, 02:47 PM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
I suck at typing  .
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03-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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I suck at typing  .
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me too ..infact i m very bad ...
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03-10-2008, 08:50 PM
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
68 words per minute 
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03-10-2008, 09:04 PM
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Violent serenity.
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Re: Same old problem of processors and mo'boards
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68 words per minute  
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Never measured!
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