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Old 28-08-2008, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've installed 2 sticks of 2gb ddr2 800mhz transcend ram on my asus p5k WS mobo with core2quad q9300.....i and installed windows vista ultimate 32bit.....when i check the ram in windows it shows only 3gb of ram, but i've installed 2x2 gb.....what shud i do now....i have even updated my bios(ver1004)....im totally confused.........here's my config....
core2quad q9300 2.5 ghz
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2X2gb ddr2 800MHz transcend
WD 750gt sata 2 HDD
XFX 8800GT 512MB GDDR3
crysis is lagging with all high settings without AA......
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Old 28-08-2008, 10:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Vista Ultimate 32bit will not detect more than 3-3.5GB of ram eventhough u hav 4GB of it installed cuz it can address a max of 4GB of memory address space which includes u gfx card's vram.
so to utilize the full 4GB of ram u need to install Vista 64bit or any 64bit OS.

at wat res ru running Crysis?
if its lagging try lowering a few settings.
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I've installed 2 sticks of 2gb ddr2 800mhz transcend ram on my asus p5k WS mobo with core2quad q9300.....i and installed windows vista ultimate 32bit.....when i check the ram in windows it shows only 3gb of ram, but i've installed 2x2 gb.....what shud i do now....i have even updated my bios(ver1004)....im totally confused.........here's my config....
core2quad q9300 2.5 ghz
Asus p5k WS mobo
2X2gb ddr2 800MHz transcend
WD 750gt sata 2 HDD
XFX 8800GT 512MB GDDR3
crysis is lagging with all high settings without AA......
Windows Vista (without SP1) has a problem displaying the total memory size if installed RAM is higher than 3GB. Please install Service Pack 1 to rectify this error.
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^^^ even with SP1 installed,Vista will only show 4Gb or more of system mem is present but it wont use more than 3-3.5GB of ram.
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@cyborg47 : hi...check out this thread


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Vista Ultimate 32bit will not detect more than 3-3.5GB of ram eventhough u hav 4GB of it installed cuz it can address a max of 4GB of memory address space which includes u gfx card's vram.
so to utilize the full 4GB of ram u need to install Vista 64bit or any 64bit OS.

at wat res ru running Crysis?
if its lagging try lowering a few settings.
me running crysis at 1440X900 and all settings "very high" except for AA....i've kept shaders to "high"......everybody thanx for the replies.....

somebody plz suggest me some gud games which wud run smooth on my config???
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The problem is with your OS. 32 bit Windows derivatives have issues with handling more than 3GB to 3.5GB of RAM. Get either 64bit windows or get linux/bsd/solaris.

If I remember right, your Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate DVD ships with a 64bit installer. Give it a shot.
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there r 2 was to enjoy 4GB or more of system mem.:
1>either install Windows Server 2003 (32 bit) or Srver 2008 (though i'm not sure whether this one supports 4GB)

2>shift to 64-bit version of any Windows.
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Things should be pretty clear with the link Karan gave.......just to add my 2 cents...

32 Bit OS is capable of addressing 4 GB or RAM (2^32 is 4GB), but 4GB limit in 32bit OS includes both physical and virtual RAM. That is how the architecture of 32 bit OS is.
If you install four 1GB memory modules, the system may detect less than 3GB of total memory because of address space allocation. This limitation applies to 32-bit version operating system since it does not support PAE (Physical Address Extension) mode.

Now however one can use the PAE switch to make the OS utilize the address space above 4GB, the catch is ......applications have to be written specifically to take advantage of PAE
So, PAE won’t make your Photoshop or office app any faster.

The best possible solution is to switch to 64bit OS. A 64 bit OS would atleast give you access to your full address space. And today we anyhow have loads of application written to utilize true potential of 64 bit architecture.

For some in depth knowldge of address allocation you might want to look at the following segment taken from Official microsoft explanation........

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Microsoft Windows XP Professional, designed as a 32-bit OS, supports an address range of up to 4 GB for virtual memory addresses and up to 4 GB for physical memory addresses. Because the physical memory addresses are sub-divided to manage both the computer’s PCI memory address range (also known as MMIO) and RAM, the amount of available RAM is always less than 4 GB.

The PCI memory addresses starting down from 4 GB are used for things like the BIOS, IO cards, networking, PCI hubs, bus bridges, PCI-Express, and video/graphics cards. The BIOS takes up about 512 KB starting from the very top address. Then each of the other items mentioned are allocated address ranges below the BIOS range. The largest block of addresses is allocated for today’s high performance graphics cards which need addresses for at least the amount of memory on the graphics card. The net result is that a high performance x86-based computer may allocate 512 MB to more than 1 GB for the PCI memory address range before any RAM (physical user memory) addresses are allocated.

RAM starts from address 0. The BIOS allocates RAM from 0 up to the bottom of the PCI memory addresses mentioned above, typically limiting available RAM to between 3 GB and 3.4 GB.
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U can Try to install vista sp1.

recommended to switch to 64bit os to utilize full 4GB ram.

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I've installed 2 sticks of 2gb ddr2 800mhz transcend ram on my asus p5k WS mobo with core2quad q9300.....i and installed windows vista ultimate 32bit.....when i check the ram in windows it shows only 3gb of ram, but i've installed 2x2 gb.....what shud i do now....i have even updated my bios(ver1004)....im totally confused.........here's my config....
core2quad q9300 2.5 ghz
Asus p5k WS mobo
2X2gb ddr2 800MHz transcend
WD 750gt sata 2 HDD
XFX 8800GT 512MB GDDR3
crysis is lagging with all high settings without AA......

@cyborg 47.

The 32-bit OS supports a max of 3.5GB including everything which includes your graphics card memory too.
Now 512MB from your 8800GT, and 3GB from you 4GB memory adds up to 4GB.

I hope this was the answer you were looking for.
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