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Old 01-08-2008, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation C2D E8400 or Phenom X4???


i have a budget of 20k for proc, mobo, ram and grfx crd... i think i wil go for xfx8600gt for grfx card and 2gb ram... i am confused as to go for amd or intel... guys plz help me in this matter.......
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don't even think of XFX 8600GT. it's electric stove.

C2D 8400+Abit IP35-e+DDR2 800 + 9500GT/hd3850
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is 9500gt better than 8600gt in terms of performance... and the new 8600gt is not electric stove... one of my frnds hav it and its overclocked at some 700Mhz and the temp doesnt go above 75C even when playing crysis.....

wat abt amd??? is X4 9550 better than E8400????

for mobo shud i go for MSI P7N SLI Platinum/P7N Zilent or P35 Platinum Combo or P45 Neo??? wat r options wen it comes to Asus? guys am very confused.. plz reply fast...

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is 9500gt better than 8600gt in terms of performance... and the new 8600gt is not electric stove... one of my frnds hav it and its overclocked at some 700Mhz and the temp doesnt go above 75C even when playing crysis.....

wat abt amd??? is X4 9550 better than E8400????

for mobo shud i go for MSI P7N SLI Platinum/P7N Zilent or P35 Platinum Combo or P45 Neo??? wat r options wen it comes to Asus? guys am very confused.. plz reply fast...
There are different revisions of the XFX 8600GT.Some are actually hotter than the rest due to faulty cooling solution.
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with 20K budget do not even think of 8600GT.
And first realize you wanna go hardcore gaming stuff or good movie watching and casual gaming, or heavy works like 3D animation etc etc.

After this decide can you sustain any plus or minus in your budget(especially any plus I mean increment of budget by 1-2K)

Zot down what you really wanna do and then buy hardware, you are now in a position where you go huge amount of options available
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and save some money+ add some money and buy Hd 4850 if looking for good gaming else 9600gt.
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is 9500gt better than 8600gt in terms of performance... and the new 8600gt is not electric stove... one of my frnds hav it and its overclocked at some 700Mhz and the temp doesnt go above 75C even when playing crysis.....

wat abt amd??? is X4 9550 better than E8400????

for mobo shud i go for MSI P7N SLI Platinum/P7N Zilent or P35 Platinum Combo or P45 Neo??? wat r options wen it comes to Asus? guys am very confused.. plz reply fast...
1) E8400 for 7.5k
2) Abit IP35-E for 5k.
3) Kingston DDR2 2gig ram for 2k
4) 9500GT for 5.5k. or

1) AMD Phenom X4 9550 for 7k
2) Gigabyte 780G chipset based board for 4.5k
3) DDR2 2gig ram for 2k
4) gpu based on your budget

Unless you buy HD4850, Intel config will have performance edge but this card costs around 10k and it better suites AMD 780G chipset.
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Go for 9600 GT rather than 8600GT.
+ If you can add more money ... Then HD 4850.
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C2D is better.

Go for Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 + MSI P35 Neo-F + Transcend 2GB Generic 800MHz RAM + Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3.

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C2D E8400 + Palit P35A + 2GB RAM + MSI 9600GT

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Abit IP35 E is now anEOL product and due to some recent changes with Abit , i mean ppl leaving abit and joining DFI and BIOSTAR , i really doubt the support on P35 series now..there are only few stocks of IP35E available which are LAST ones..
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EOL...when i couldnt get it in some more obvious shop..i didnt dig into the shop that someone said..was worried about support..so decided to go for an asus p45 based one
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C2D is better.

Go for Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 + MSI P35 Neo-F + Transcend 2GB Generic 800MHz RAM + Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB GDDR3.

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C2D E8400 + Palit P35A + 2GB RAM + MSI 9600GT

The only deciding factor here is the Motherboard + GPU combo.
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How about C2D E8500?
it will cost 1k more ....but i think E8400 is fair enough ..and if he can spend more he should go for better mobo and GPU
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bro buy X4 if want to buy XFX8600GT so u can buy it now there is no problem with new stock over heating nd for good 4850 is best nd AMD save ur money in MOB.use this processor there is snappiness in AMD cpu.
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and save some money+ add some money and buy Hd 4850 if looking for good gaming else 9600gt.

y U all saying that e8400 ---- did u guys ever saw the power of phenom on gaming ... check out the L3 CACHE intel does not have such technology ... l3 cache cannot be used for higher end application for gaming its massive to smooth playing E8400 is penryn tech ok ... look @ the fsb phenom 9550 has 1800 ... E8400 is 1333 .... now say ----- before saying check out the performance
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y U all saying that e8400 ---- did u guys ever saw the power of phenom on gaming ... check out the L3 CACHE intel does not have such technology ... l3 cache cannot be used for higher end application for gaming its massive to smooth playing E8400 is penryn tech ok ... look @ the fsb phenom 9550 has 1800 ... E8400 is 1333 .... now say ----- before saying check out the performance
obviously u mistaken about E8400's performance ..just have a look it competes with phenom 9950 ....

look here

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=3344&p=15
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Even had a look at this one

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=3344&p=11

poor baby!.

And one more thing Phenom is a quad core processor while 8400 is a core2duo.

You better check..........................
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My 2 cents:

E7200 @ 5.4k or wait for E5200 @ 3.7k
MSI P43NEO-F @ 4.8k
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obviously u mistaken about E8400's performance ..just have a look it competes with phenom 9950 ....

look here

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=3344&p=15

YA U GUYS RITE THEN CHECK HD 4850 IN ANANDTECH ,, THAT WEBSITE PROVED THAT 9800 GTX IS FAR MORE BETTER THAN HD 4850 ,, SO U BELIVE THAT ,,, ACTUALLY ,, MY FRIEND BOUGHT E8500 & ANOTHER ONE BOUGHT Q6600 ,,,,, WHEN COMPUTING E8500& Q6600 ,,, TAKE IT TO THE STRESS TEST FOR E8500,Q6600,AMD9550,AMD9750... FOR GAMING AMD9750 WILL BEAT ALL THE PROC SILENTLY .... I TESTED CAUSE MY FRIEND HAS HARDWARE SHOP IN THAT WE TESTED ,, THE EARLY PHENOM WAS BUG ,, DUE TO TDP ERRORS THEY BENCHMARKED WITH THAT ,, THE BUG REMOVED AMD IS NOW MAKING A WELCOME WAYS AS THEY HAVE RELEASED ATI RADEON HD4850 .... WAIT & SEEK THE PERFORMANCE
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YA U GUYS RITE THEN CHECK HD 4850 IN ANANDTECH ,, THAT WEBSITE PROVED THAT 9800 GTX IS FAR MORE BETTER THAN HD 4850 ,, SO U BELIVE THAT ,,, ACTUALLY ,, MY FRIEND BOUGHT E8500 & ANOTHER ONE BOUGHT Q6600 ,,,,, WHEN COMPUTING E8500& Q6600 ,,, TAKE IT TO THE STRESS TEST FOR E8500,Q6600,AMD9550,AMD9750... FOR GAMING AMD9750 WILL BEAT ALL THE PROC SILENTLY .... I TESTED CAUSE MY FRIEND HAS HARDWARE SHOP IN THAT WE TESTED ,, THE EARLY PHENOM WAS BUG ,, DUE TO TDP ERRORS THEY BENCHMARKED WITH THAT ,, THE BUG REMOVED AMD IS NOW MAKING A WELCOME WAYS AS THEY HAVE RELEASED ATI RADEON HD4850 .... WAIT & SEEK THE PERFORMANCE

obviously u think either u are very smart ...or u don't know anything about computing ....

look here

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=14

and tell me where u see ..gtx beating HD4850 ......Hd4850 competes with 9800gtx+ ..and everybody knows all over the world except u i guess that ..9800gtx+ is different card than 9800gtx ..and performance in crysis is not everything ...cos a card should perform in more games ..too there are hell lot of games out there ...

publish ur benchmarks here ...if u are so sure ..even i can say anything about ...any comp component ...unless i have proof
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obviously u think either u are very smart ...or u don't know anything about computing ....

look here

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=14

and tell me where u see ..gtx beating HD4850 ......Hd4850 competes with 9800gtx+ ..and everybody knows all over the world except u i guess that ..9800gtx+ is different card than 9800gtx ..and performance in crysis is not everything ...cos a card should perform in more games ..too there are hell lot of games out there ...

publish ur benchmarks here ...if u are so sure ..even i can say anything about ...any comp component ...unless i have proof

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obviously u think either u are very smart ...or u don't know anything about computing ....

look here

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=14

and tell me where u see ..gtx beating HD4850 ......Hd4850 competes with 9800gtx+ ..and everybody knows all over the world except u i guess that ..9800gtx+ is different card than 9800gtx ..and performance in crysis is not everything ...cos a card should perform in more games ..too there are hell lot of games out there ...

publish ur benchmarks here ...if u are so sure ..even i can say anything about ...any comp component ...unless i have proof


ALL WE KNOW IS ONLY INTEL BASICALLY I TOO THOUGHT LIKE LIKE THAT BECAUSE IN INDIA ALL SPOKEN BY OTHER INTEL IS BEST ,,, SE SEEING IS NOT TRUTH PLEASE USE IT AND SEE THE RESULT PLEASE OK ,,, I REC'MND AMD 9550 WITH INTEL Q6600 ,,, THEN U TELL THE ANSWER HONEST OK ,,,,

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Mr donkey--from--hell or what ever you are.

Crisis is coded in such a way that it supports the GFX Cards made by Nvdia.

Most of us wish that may AMD soon get his crown back which was lost due to C2Duo processors. But at present AMD's each and every processor is beaten by their counter parts from Intel.

9800GTX+ is around 13500.00
HD4850 is around 9500.00

Difference of 4000.00

And for 4 thousand more if you get 3-5 fps more in one game or 2 then go and buy the 9800GTX yourself why advice to others.

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by the way off the topic ..

u said somewhere that u get better FPS in crysis on XP (can't find the post now ..) ..thats cos in all probability (unless u are using dx 10 from alky project or somethig similar ) game switches to DX 9 mode ..and DX9 will perform faster ...cos in DX 10 various intricate effects have to rendered which take more processing power ...

thats the reason of crysis or crysis warhead being faster on XP ...
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Mr donkey--from--hell or what ever you are.

Crisis is coded in such a way that it supports the GFX Cards made by Nvdia.

Most of us wish that may AMD soon get his crown back which was lost due to C2Duo processors. But at present AMD's each and every processor is beaten by their counter parts from Intel.

9800GTX+ is around 13500.00
HD4850 is around 9500.00

Difference of 4000.00

And for 4 thousand more if you get 3-5 fps more in one game or 2 then go and buy the 9800GTX yourself why advice to others.

Hope you got the point.
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by the way off the topic ..

u said somewhere that u get better FPS in crysis on XP (can't find the post now ..) ..thats cos in all probability (unless u are using dx 10 from alky project or somethig similar ) game switches to DX 9 mode ..and DX9 will perform faster ...cos in DX 10 various intricate effects have to rendered which take more processing power ...

thats the reason of crysis or crysis warhead being faster on XP ...
Yup thats true. And there is hardly any good peice of hardware except GTX and HD48xx series that can run any game comfortably with all max in DX10. Software is lurking ahead than hardware this time.
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Why dear?
I think you haven't seen the time when AMD rules the processor world. They were fast and cheap. Intel only has the hype not the performance.
You must be a kid at that time.
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^^ I support you in this matter.

My first PC was AMD k6-II (back in '98 AFAIR) which was far better than P-II machine that time. Later I had Athlon XP (better than intel P4) and Athlon X2 (better than intel dual-core).
It's core2duo where Intel beats AMD.

I have bought C2DE8400 this time (first in my life with an Intel proccy) because Intel now has edge in price-performance ratio.

I'll stick to this config for 1 or 1.5 years. By that time I think AMD will again come on top. And remember, it's AMD whose products made, nvidia and Intel to lower their prices.
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