Help me to Choose Gaming PC

[whoru007]

Hello Guys,
I am going to buy a My new Gaming + Designing PC in next 2 Days.Please suggest me the Configs for it.
My budget is tight its between Rs.35000- 36000. (It could be 40,000 but i need to buy a Table for it.)


The things are in my mind is
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6500 4MB L2 2.33 GHz-- 7400
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 6MB L2 2.66 GHz-- 7800

Motherboard
XFX MG-630i-7109-----------------------------------------------------------3600
MSI P35 NEO-COMBO-F Intel P35 chipset 1333 FSB---------5500
Abit IP35-E----------------------------------------------------------------------5500

RAM
2 x 1GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend / Kingston----2300

HDD
Western Digital Cavier SE16 320GB SATA-2----2800
Seagate Sata 2 320 GB (16 MB Buffer)------------2700

Graphics Card
XFX/Palit 8600GT 256MB GDDR3----------------4500
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB DDR3-------------6500

Optical Drive
Sony 20x (Sata DRU 170S)---------1700
Lite-On 20x with LightScribe--------1500

Cabinet + SMPS
Cooler Master Elite 330-----1900
VIP 333---------------------------1600
iBall Gamer----------------------1700

Keyboard + Mouse
Logitech / Microsoft M/M Keyboard + Mouse----850

Monitor
Dell 19" SE198WFP Widescreen LCD----9700
AOC 916SWA 19" Wide Screen------------9800
Viewsonic LCD 19" VG1930WM------------9800

Speakers
Creative SBS 2.1--------------1300
Logitech R-20 2.1-------------1200


Please tell me if there is any changes in Prices ( I am from Mumbai).
Also tell me what is Difference between LCD & TFT also which is best??
I have read to much bad things about Nvidia 8600GT 256Mb GDDR3 it is true or fake??

[realdan]

ever considered the core 2 duo E7200 for below 5400?

[harryneopotter]

If u can go for AMD ..then u could squeeze in A HD4850 and it will blow the present config away. Just the following changes :
CPU AMD X3 8450 -- 5.7k
Gigabyte 780G board (rev other than 1) -- 5k

and bout other things ..
UR HDD prices are around 300-400 higher thn market price ... same for DVDRW (u wnt be needing lightscribe unless u r RICH and Spoilt enuf to waste 100 bucks just to print disk labels per disk.)
And for LCD, Go for AOC 913FW (Romeo and Juilet model) instead of the above mentioned model from AOC. It has killer looks.

[acewin]

Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB DDR3-------------6500
Cooler Master Elite 330-----1900(someone said its price is 1600, not pretty sure)
Logitech Mouse Keyboard combo
SMPS- CoolerMaster Extreme Power 460W
Dell 19" SE198WFP Widescreen LCD----9700
2.1 speakers none of you suggested, I would say Altec Lansing BX1121R - less than 1200
DVD Burner (Sony or Asus, preferably Asus, both would come around 1200)

Proccy+Mobo is always controversial issue But from the selections you have made I would suggest e8200(price is around Rs 7400) +Abit IP-35P (its P and not E)-(Rs. 5300)

Buddy whoever gave you these quotes gave you higher price, and not but 100 or 200 but 300-400 on each product. except for the mobo and GPU

[harryneopotter]

yea .. I missed the speakers ....
Creative SBS 370 has been out of production and A300 has replaced it. But Altec Lansing wld be a better choice IMO.

[whoru007]

I am really confused about Procy + Mobo.
My budget is tight

I am thinking for Palit 8600 256MB GDDR3. does it have overheating isuue like XFX Model??

Also what will be better from this
Intel C2D E7200 3Mb L2 + Palit 9600GSO 384Mb GDDR3 or
Intel C2D E8200 6MB L2 + Palit 8600 256MB GDDR3 ??

Also suggets mobo which supports PCIe v2.0 under 5000-6000 Rs ??

[harryneopotter]

If u dnt want to stick to Intel ..then..
AMD X3 8450 + Gigabyte 780G + HD 3850 or 4850 is a far better config thn these two u mentioned.
The board has PCIe 2.0, DVI, HDMI, eSATA, Firewire, DirectX 10 Onboard graphics, Support max 16 GB DDR2 1066 RAM, 5 SATA ports etc.

and X3 8450 is better than 7200, and 3850/4850 are better than 8600GT/9600 GSO.

[george101]

Originally Posted by whoru007

Also suggets mobo which supports PCIe v2.0 under 5000-6000 Rs ??

MSI P45 Neo
http://asia.msi.com.tw/index.php?fun...o=170&cat3_no=

[whoru007]

can anyone tell me plz what should be preferred??

Intel C2D E7200 + Palit 9600GT 384MB GDDR3 or
Intel C2D E8200 + Palit 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 ???

[harryneopotter]

the 1st option.

[ancientrites]

Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 6MB L2 2.66 GHz-- 7800
MSI P35 NEO-COMBO-F Intel P35 chipset 1333 FSB---------5500
2 x 1GB DDR2 800Mhz Transcend / Kingston----2300 go for transcend
Western Digital Cavier SE16 320GB SATA-2----2800
Palit 9600GSO Sonic 384MB DDR3-------------6500 (look for leadtek brand)
Sony 20x (Sata DRU 170S)---------1700
Cooler Master Elite 330-----1900
Logitech / Microsoft M/M Keyboard + Mouse----850
Viewsonic LCD 19" VG1930WM------------9800
Logitech R-20 2.1-------------1200

[manoharprabhu]

Relax on the components like case, HDD, speakers etc and put the extra cash into a high end graphics card.

[whoru007]

Does the
Abit IP35-E & MSI P35-Neo-Combo both supports PCIe v2.0 GFX Cards i.e.Support to Palit 8600 GT 256Mb GDDR3 & Palit 9600GSO 384Mb GDDR3 ??

[adithyagenius]

I suggest Zebronics RAGE for cabinet.

[ssk_the_gr8]

Originally Posted by harryneopotter

If u can go for AMD ..then u could squeeze in A HD4850 and it will blow the present config away. Just the following changes :
CPU AMD X3 8450 -- 5.7k
Gigabyte 780G board (rev other than 1) -- 5k

and bout other things ..
UR HDD prices are around 300-400 higher thn market price ... same for DVDRW (u wnt be needing lightscribe unless u r RICH and Spoilt enuf to waste 100 bucks just to print disk labels per disk.)
And for LCD, Go for AOC 913FW (Romeo and Juilet model) instead of the above mentioned model from AOC. It has killer looks.

+1

[whoru007]

Guys,
finally i have decided this config, please suggets me street prices of all bcoz i am not getting correct prices in Local shops (Remember i am From Mumbai)

Intel C2D E7200 3 Mb L2 2.53GHz
MSI P35 Neo Combo - F Intel P35 Chipset 1333FSB
Palit 9600GSO 384Mb GDDR3 GFX Card
Kingston 2 x 1GB 800MHz RAM
Seagate 320 SATA-2 16Mb Buffer HDD
AOC 913FW 19" LCD Monitor
Lite-On 20x DVD RW
Microsoft M/m Keyboard + Optical Mouse Combo
Cool Master Elite 330 Cabinet with 400W Power Supply
Logitech R-20 2.1Ch Speakers

Please dont tell me prices which are on TheITWares.com or any other site.

[icebags]

just for 1k-1.2k price more , i m gonna recommend E8400 its the best low price high end cpu available. also has a huge performance increase over E8200 or other proocies at this price range.

ps. all ur prices r very high.

[acewin]

whoru007, which PSU have you decided for your cooler master cabby.
Instead of Logitech R-20 2.1Ch Speakers, check Altec Lansing BXR1121

[whoru007]

Originally Posted by icebags

just for 1k-1.2k price more , i m gonna recommend E8400 its the best low price high end cpu available. also has a huge performance increase over E8200 or other proocies at this price range.

U r right but i am already out of my budget. I have sold my old System to my friend in 15,000 & i can add maximum s. all ur prices r very high.
20,000 in it so it can be max 35,000. Also i have seen reviews on compairsion between E8200 & E7200 they are just differing by 10% which is not much higher. Also I am Gettin Palit 9600GSO 384Mb GFX card which will stabilize the System & will provide more graphic to me.

ps. all ur prices r very high

Ya i know that thts y i have asked fro real streen prices in mumbai.

[skippednote]

Man if you are not into over clocking then you must get a amd rig. As you can pop in a 4850 for high end gaming. Or 8800 gtx with a c2q proccey will do the job

[icebags]

check on smps, u should keep a 450w smps for those gfx cards i think (not sure).

9600 one needs a smps with pcie 6 pin power adapter. also check if there is enough "ampere" in the 12v rail of that psu.

[whoru007]

Due to availability of the E7200 & Palit9600 GSO, I have changed my config...
Intel C2D E8200 6Mb L2 2.66GHz (I have heard that It is Intels one of the best OC Proccy??)
MSI P35 Neo Combo - F Intel P35 Chipset 1333FSB
Palit 8600GSO 256Mb GDDR3 GFX Card
Kingston 2 x 1GB 800MHz RAM
Seagate 320 SATA-2 16Mb Buffer HDD
AOC 913FW 19" LCD Monitor
Lite-On 20x DVD RW
Microsoft M/m Keyboard + Optical Mouse Combo
VIP Cabinet + 400W SMPS + Cooler Fan
Logitech R-20 2.1Ch Speakers

[mayanksharma]

^^Everything seems nice.
However, whats 8600GSO?
I think, u meant 9600 GSO with 384MB DDR3...right?
Another thing, if possible...do invest in a good Cabinet along with a descent PSU. They play important role for a good rig.
For example, u can go for Coolermaster Elite series cabinets and Coolermaster extreme series PSU.
Good Luck..

[MetalheadGautham]

I think you are being ripped off with that 8600 card. Its waaaay too expensive compared to REAL market price.

For gaming on Intel, more CPU cache ==> better performance.

So get atleast Core2Duo E8200. It has very little performance difference compared to higher end CPUs in same series, and you can always OverClock it.

But from most reviews, the performance with 1MB L2 is low, 2MB L2 much higher than 1MB, and 4MB provides a smaller margin of increase over 2MB. So I suppose 3MB can have everything delicately balenced. So if you are on a budget, get Core2Duo E7200. It is *JUST* about right for you.

Since you want mumbai prices, I suggest you check up at http://www.theitwares.com/processors/processors.htm for the CPU prices. TheItWares is an online computer store and they ask rather decent prices for their items. They are based in Mumbai.

For gaming, compared to 9600GSO, HD3850 has better performance with AntiAliasing turned off, and both come at the same price. But sadly, in India ATI cards are HIGHLY expensive, and HD3850 costs 10K approx instead of something like 6.5 to 7K. The three cards which are NOT expensive in India relative to outside India are HD4850 and HD4870, which have a huge demand in the market right now, but they are waaay beyond your budget costing 10K and 15K respectively. The third one is HD3450, which is waaay below your budget costing less than 2K and having a poor performance for gaming.

Anyway, this means 9600GSO is the best card available to you. The Palit 9600GSO Sonic is available at 6.5K at http://www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm which is quite decent.

And yes, a dirt cheap version of the 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 is the Mercury one. Mercury sells it for around 3K, but it has only 1 year warranty compared to the usual 3 years. If you need a high quality CPU, then reduce money allotment for GPU and get this.

Since you are buying in mumbai, try to check if the prices the dealers offer to you are lesser than or equal to theitwares.com prices. If they are higher, it makes a lot of sense to buy from there. ( Me and others in bangalore have such store online and need to run around in the heat at SP Road )

DONT get AMD if you are mainly into gaming and photoshop. Many games are optimised for an even number of cores, so Phenom X3 might have some small issues. And photoshop has difficulty to recoganise the third core as reported by one of our forum members, gx_saurav. Intel also overclocks brilliantly compared to AMD.

For motherboard, P35 is good if you want to overclock the E7200. Its supposed to easily reach 3.0GHz on P35. Search around if you can't find a good one. MSI, ASUS, Abit are all good. BioStar is a nice cheap option.

[solomon_paulraj]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

I think you are being ripped off with that 8600 card. Its waaaay too expensive compared to REAL market price.

For gaming on Intel, more CPU cache ==> better performance.
......

thats awful info... thank you. it helped me a lot.

[Psychosocial]

C2D E7200
Abit IP35-e
2GB DDR2 800 Kingston Value
WD 320GB HDD
Palit 9600GSO 320MB
LiteOn LH-20A1P
iBall Gamer
Microsoft M/M Keyboard + Mouse
Dell 19" SE198WFP Widescreen LCD
Logitech R-20 2.1-------------1200

[whoru007]

Guys here is my Final config , Thx for the help.

Intel C2D E8200 6Mb L2 2.66GHz (I have heard that It is Intels one of the best OC Proccy? I want to know that how!) Smile - Rs. 7600

Intel Original DG33 Motherboard. - Rs. 5000

Palit 8600GT 256Mb GDDR3 GFX Card - Rs. 4500

Kingston 2 x 1GB 800MHz RAM - Rs. 2200

Seagate 400GB SATA-2 16Mb Buffer HDD - Rs. 2800

AOC 913FW 19" LCD Monitor - Rs. 9100

Lite-On 20x DVD RW - Rs. 1200

Microsoft 500 Keyboard+ Mouse Combo - Rs. 650

VIP Cabinet + 400W SMPS + 4 Cooler Fan Smile - Rs. 2000

Logitech R-10 2.0Ch Speakers - Rs. 400

Intex Headphones - Free!

8 GB Kingston Data Traveler - Free!

Can anyone tell me plz how to Overclock my proccy with this board???

[harryneopotter]

sorry dude .... but INTEL original Mobo's dont support overclocking AFAIK.

So forget overclocking if u have Original Intel MOBO.

[Psychosocial]

And getting a 8600GT means that your PC is already outdated. Get a 9600GT at the least.

[icebags]

get a p35 mobo instead, costas abt 400-500 more i think, then check out logitec/creative 2.1 speakers and dell monitor.

u may also check the lg monitor , they r not bad... just see for a good contrast ratio, response time and dvi port....its gonna save price as well.