abit ip35-e or msi neo2-fr

ionicsachin · 26-03-2008, 12:36 AM

both these cards are equally good.
But the problem is ip35-e comes at ram voltage 1.8v default.i ve bought corsair twin2x1024 5400C4..which works at 1.9 volts.i kno that this can be tweaked frm bios but how can i get into bios when comp doesnt start.
also i ve bought e8200 which requires bios update..
in neo2 i m gettin full support and equal overclock strength, esata, raid, better cooling, cmos reset button...
now plz help me out this dilemma

even i support ip35-e, but these things are worrying me...and also tell me abt some good ddr2 rams at or under 2k.....
is it safe to buy from amazon.com, i m getting neo2-fr thr at 123dollars and free shipping....i am kinda scared coz i never did online shopping frm an international website....are they gonna charge me equivalent rupees....
msi p35 neo2-fr is not easily available in hyderabad and its not on yantraonline.in too

ionicsachin · 26-03-2008, 01:51 PM

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sagargv · 26-03-2008, 02:12 PM

AFAIK , abit ip35e doesnt need BIOS update for e8200 . it natively supports 45nm proccy's. . my friend could get it to work without any problems. .maybe u're missing some power connectors.

hellgate · 26-03-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ionicsachin

both these cards are equally good.
But the problem is ip35-e comes at ram voltage 1.8v default.i ve bought corsair twin2x1024 5400C4..which works at 1.9 volts.i kno that this can be tweaked frm bios but how can i get into bios when comp doesnt start.
also i ve bought e8200 which requires bios update..
in neo2 i m gettin full support and equal overclock strength, esata, raid, better cooling, cmos reset button...
now plz help me out this dilemma

abit IP35-E will support the E8200 without any bios update.u may update the bios to v16 Beta if u feel like later on but v15 supports all Penryn proccies by default.
the Corsair ram sticks will also be supported cuz the dimm voltage is set to AUTO by default,so no probs to there.
i'm using the IP35-E with a E8400 @ 4.05GHz,till now mobo has shown no sign of heating idles @ 33-35c and maxes out at 41c.so cooling is good
personally i feel this mobo is better than my previous P5B Dlx.
eSata is something u wont get in th IP35-E but then i dont think u'll be using that feature.
i wud suggest u to buy the IP35-E.feel it wud oc more than the MSI.

ionicsachin · 26-03-2008, 03:58 PM

@hellgate
yeah thats right....i am fully on abit side....
but still people hav many sort of errors.....some have frozen windows when flashing bios from within windows.....other famous error with ip35e and e8200 is constant rebooting(thats fixed by updating bios)(i m not talkin abt double boot.)
i m gonna do ovrclckng without playing with voltages...is corsair twin2x1024 5400c4 good..its only 1gb..
can u tell any good 2gb perfrmnce ram under 2.5k

i ve actually made up with following...
e8200
abit ip35-e or msi p35 neo2-fr
evga 9600gt ko edition(i know 8800gt is better)
corsair twin2x1024 5400c4
can i trust amazon.com..ip35-e is 80dollars thr...free shipping...
i m worried abt ram...crysis requires 1.5gb for smooth running...
yeah one more thing hellgate...
does ip35-e support ide optical drive booting...

darklord · 26-03-2008, 05:07 PM

If i were you , i would buy the following config,

Intel E8200
Abit IP35-E (Locally)
2GB Transcend DDR2 800 ~ 2.2k

I have used IP35-E for some time and frankly it never gave me any problems whatsoever.

monkey · 26-03-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ionicsachin

@hellgate
yeah thats right....i am fully on abit side....
but still people hav many sort of errors.....some have frozen windows when flashing bios from within windows.....other famous error with ip35e and e8200 is constant rebooting(thats fixed by updating bios)(i m not talkin abt double boot.)
i m gonna do ovrclckng without playing with voltages...is corsair twin2x1024 5400c4 good..its only 1gb..
can u tell any good 2gb perfrmnce ram under 2.5k

i ve actually made up with following...
e8200
abit ip35-e or msi p35 neo2-fr
evga 9600gt ko edition(i know 8800gt is better)
corsair twin2x1024 5400c4
can i trust amazon.com..ip35-e is 80dollars thr...free shipping...
i m worried abt ram...crysis requires 1.5gb for smooth running...
yeah one more thing hellgate...
does ip35-e support ide optical drive booting...

AFAIK Amazon will not ship any electronic goods to India. I have tried several times and each time the request was rejected.

ionicsachin · 26-03-2008, 06:37 PM

is transcend 2gb ddr2 800mhz good for gaming and intermediate overclocking......
with a gud 2gb ram, evga 9600gt gives 20-25 fps in crysis very high settings...

hellgate · 26-03-2008, 10:26 PM

Transcend Jet Rams r gud enuf.i've oc'd my 667 ram to 900 and till now i havent faced any probs.
i wud suggest u to get a E8400 instead of E8200 cuz price diff is bout 1k max.IP35-E does support booting from any IDE device.
try to get ur hardware from local vendors.that way u'll get better support incase u hav any probs with any hardware.
u can oc by tweaking the vcores a little.theres no prob as long as u take care bout the mount of heat being generated.

ionicsachin · 26-03-2008, 10:56 PM

@hellgate
yaar i am really satisfied with the reviews of ip35-e....gettin it tomorrow....
really appreciate it man that u ve given ur suggestion coz u ve used it....
Isnt intel stock cooler good...
and yeah buddy i ll need ur IM later when i set it up fully.....coz i never played with voltages....

hellgate · 27-03-2008, 02:08 AM

the present Intel stock coolers r a piece of sh!t.the prev generation coolers were better.now they r supplying smaller coolers.its better buy urself a good after market cooler like TRUE

ionicsachin · 27-03-2008, 11:05 PM

@hellgate
hi buddy
i ve discussed with my dad and ended up at following:
e8200 - 7200bucks
ip35 pro - 9500bucks
evga/msi 9600gt -10000bucks
transcend 2gb 800mhz ddr2 -2200bucks
i m going for the pro coz dad wont buy me another one if -e goes dead...he is worried reading reviews...
suggestions

darklord · 27-03-2008, 11:11 PM

Pro is a nice board , you wont regret buying it.
Although -E isnt a bad board and there is no reason why it should die.

ionicsachin · 27-03-2008, 11:23 PM

@darklord
90% reviews show it good.....but many users had to replace ip35-e.....some had a booting prob with e8200.....for some the mobo was not reading memories.....for many it was not giving IDE optical drive boot....some had prob during vista installation.....
i m not gonna get another board if anything goes wrong.....so i m going for pro coz it has lesser errors, overclocks better, has cmos reset button, raid, heatpipes etc for 4k xtra