Hardware that you should NOT buy

[desiibond]

Creating this threat to list hardware from which we have to stay away from. Please mention product that's a failure in the market due to issues. Also, please mention what the issue is, is it widespread etc.

Updated list:


PC's:



1) Lenovo T60 (huge number of hardware bugs from display to wireless)

2) Dynet Rams. bad performance. Go for Kingston, Transcend, Corsair etc.

3) Cheap SMPS. Better invest in better SMPS from corsair/tagan/seasonic/antec as 500W+ if you have a good GPU setup and cheap SMPS cannot provide regular/stable voltage and if they face constant load all the time, there is great chance for them to fail. Better be safe than sorry.

4) 1Tb HDDs: Looking at the high failure rate these days, better to get two 500Gb HDDs by paying just 300-400 bucks more than to get 1Tb HDD and lose huge chunk of data due to crash.

5) Via chipset based motherboards (if pc is going to be used for gaming and for linux)

6) Creative Inspire series speakers: For similar or a bit extra, you get lot lot better speakers from Altec Lansing/Edifier/Logitech.

7) XFX 8600GT (card having heat issues)

8) Mercury UPS. good battery but faulty electronics. Though it is fully charged, 6 times out of 10 it will not swtich into battery mode and everything swtiches off.

9) Intel 945GCNL and 945GCPE motherboards

10) intex/iball/cheapo membrane keyboards and mouse.

11) Canon Pixma IP1000 printer. Very noisy, ink runs out very fast, no output tray, flimsy plastic construction.

12) Notebooks that come with 8600M GT. now, you find better models with 9500GT and 9600GT in the market.

13) Surround speakers from brands like Mercury, Intex, iball. Earlier there used to be lot of price difference between these and creatives/altec lansing/logitech. Now, the difference is minimal and it's always better to for long-term-player's products.

14) Creative XFi Xtreme audio. The entry-level model of the X-Fi series, the Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio, does not actually have the EMU20K1 chip but is a re-branded Audigy SE, using the same family of chips (CA0106-WBTLF), and even the same drivers. Thus, not only is all of the X-Fi–related processing performed in software, but it also lacks basic hardware acceleration just like the SB Live! 24 bit, the Audigy SE and other budget Soundblaster models. The X-Fi Xtreme Audio does not use the same drivers as the rest of the X-Fi family, some games do not recognize it as being "X-Fi capable hardware", and the device's hardware profile resembles that of older Live! and Audigy cards.

15) Dell 1908WFP. contrast issues

16) Viewsonic 1716W, AOC 913FW, Viewsonic VW1940W, HP L2208w. poor performance when compared to similar priced models.

17) promax speakers. Better get Creatives and AL's for just 200-300 extra.

18) First gen MSI X58 based boards. Lot of BIOS issues in this first gen boards.

18) Seagate . Firware issues crashing HDD, resulting in total data loss and requires replacement.

19) Microsoft entry level keyboard: The keys become hard after few weeks or months. Better stick to Logitech keyboard

20) Optical Mouse (for gamers) : With Laser mouse price falling every day, it's time for gamers to ditch that optical mouse and get laser mouse.

21) AMD Athlon 7750 BE: Worst Black Edition processor ever designed by AMD. E5200 and Athlon II X2 245 are much better and are available for same price

22) ASUS dvd burners: good product but very bad tech support for DVD burners

23) Altec Lansing VS4621 : very bad bassy audio quality. not worth the price. there are better models for same price.




Mobiles and PMP's:



1) Nokia 6300 (battery issues, network issues)

2) Sony Ericsson S600i (grossly overpriced, ugly, not many features)

3) chinese phones frm Techno, el cheapo n el hazardo. el cheapo n el hazardo.... have lead parts, give radiations (harmful ones), n screen starts 2 shift

4) Nokia N76. Really bad design. Poor body painint, awkwardly placed headphone jack, not-so-bad keypad design.

5) Nokia 6233 Music Edition. This one comes with dock kind of speakers that are not at all worthy. Go for standard 6233. Best phone in 5k-10k category.

6) Motorola S9 headset. Good for looks. Poor audio quality. breaking of sound while on move.

7) Mitashi MWI-4GA. as per digit review, poor music quality and unintuitive menu.

8) YES YMP 18. Runs on external batteries and much better models available (run on li-ion) for the same price.

9) Creative Zen Stone and ipod shuffle. No display. Models like Sandisk clip, Apacer steno are availalbe for the same price and have decent OLED display. You can also go for Creative Zen Stone Plus that comes with tiny OLED display but costs around 1.2k more

10) Vodafone magic box. Much better phones are available for the same price and lot of stores are now giving free SIM with mobile phone purchase.

11) Mobiblu T10. Cnet says "The MobiBlu T10 is the worst touch-screen MP3 player we've seen." The MobiBlu T10 is plagued with problems, such as videos that play out of sync with audio; poor voice-recording quality; an abysmal user interface; and games that are awkward to play.

12) Samsung and LG low end touch phones: With these the fun lasts only few days and later, the real problems like buggy OS and non-responsive touch screen come to the fore of experience.

13) HDD based PMPs: With flash players reaching 64Gb, it's finally time to dump these bulky and slow HDD based PMPs and go for flash based PMPs.




Miscellaneous:



1) Netgear WG111USB wifi router. pathetic signal reception.

2) non-jasper XBOX 360: with it's high failure rate and RRoD, look for jasper, which is the latest version of XBOX 360.

[Gigacore]

iPhone - No 3G, Camera sucks

[praka123]

VIA powered motherboards(unichrome graphics too sucks!)
esp to Linux users!

[Faun]

Seagate HDD

[Gigacore]

Macbook Air - Cant replace battery

Floppies - Outdated

[int86]

Microtek UPS

[nvidia]

Originally Posted by Gigacore

Floppies - Outdated

XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 UDF-7
(You can buy this in case you want to use your graphics card as an electric stove)

[Cool G5]

LG Phones - Very less battery backup in entry range model.

Unbranded China phones,mp3 players etc.

[nish_higher]

Originally Posted by nvidia

XFX 8600GT 256MB DDR3 UDF-7
(You can buy this in case you want to use your graphics card as an electric stove)

Any New Asus Board that costs 7-10k - i mean the very first lot ,later its fine
Dynet/Tamkor/any other cheapo rams -perform poor
XFX 8800GT Alpha dog - this is a b*t*h ! - same heat issues
XFX 8600GT-every model-heat issues
Seagate Cheetah-no seagate drive is reliable..this one crashes like anything.

[ancientrites]

dont buy ASUS P5N32-SLI DELUXE motherboard or even if u get for free.Even till today i get horror night dreams

[confused!!]

Originally Posted by Gigacore

iPhone - No 3G, Camera sucks

Overrated Overhyped Phone...

[saqib_khan]

Originally Posted by nish_higher

XFX 8600GT-every model

Y r u against? I heard XFX is the best brand in GPU.

[sagargv]

nah , evga , BFG are better. .

one more against xfx 8600GT. overheats . first card idled at 67C went upto 105C on ati tool . . replaced card goes upto 82C . better but still not that happy.

mods , please make this sticky.

[nish_higher]

Originally Posted by khansaqib101

Y r u against? I heard XFX is the best brand in GPU.

i myself own a XFX card..those 2 models i mentioned have heat problems.

[hemant_mathur]

Originally Posted by ancientrites

dont buy ASUS P5N32-SLI DELUXE motherboard or even if u get for free.Even till today i get horror night dreams

Whats wrong with this mobo ?

[nish_higher]

yea man ! this thread would make more sense if we provide reasons too

[New]

SAMSUNG optical drive.After few months it starts ejecting the tray without your permission.

[confused!!]

samsung have a history of tray problem...

[New]

Yup...SAMSUNG is only for monitor.

[hellgate]

Intel 945GCNL and 945GCPE.
Reason : Most of these mobos end up with probs with the onboard audio chip (Realtek ALC883).

[BULLZI]

Really useful thread. The buyers will be more cautious from now onwards .

[ancientrites]

Originally Posted by hemant_mathur

Whats wrong with this mobo ?

4 time replacements then finally i got asus p5n32-e sli mobo for exchange i had to pay 3000 extra to rashi and gave me sweet offer.happy ending

[nvidia]

Originally Posted by khansaqib101

Y r u against? I heard XFX is the best brand in GPU.

It is the best brand alright, but some cards overheat insanely... My 8600GT runs at about 82C under load and i cant overclock it.
One of our forum member's(sagargv) card used to run at more than 95C under load. And he got it replaced.

Like i said before, you can buy XFX 8600GT(the older models) if you want to use your card as an electric stove

@mods: please make this thread a sticky.

[desiibond]

^^ I've heard about this too. Especially the XFX 8600GT.

[napster007]

iphone : with all the above mentioned flaws. i add another "It just sux big time"

[girish.g]

ipod classic: hard to reach a particular song with the clickwheel if you have a large collection, can't be used as a mass storage
w910: crappy cam, useless features(shake control, accelerometer)

[Gigacore]

HP OfficeJet 6318 MFD - Carriage gets jammed now and then, ADF is damn slow, Bulky, Printing Speed decreases depending on the load and Slow photo copy speeds. . .

[nish_higher]

Originally Posted by ancientrites

4 time replacements then finally i got asus p5n32-e sli mobo for exchange i had to pay 3000 extra to rashi and gave me sweet offer.happy ending

the error was...... ?

Further not to buy list-
Moser baer DVDs esp RWs.go for verbatims\sony instead.
Intex PSU
Intex speakers
iBall headphones

[pushkaraj]

w580i
Build quality is AVERAGE
Keypad is of BAD QUALITY

[nvidia]

Stay away from Liteon drives... The tray sux and makes a lot of noise...