Intel C2D E4400 or AMD X2 5000+ ????

[writealexthomas]

I am having AMD Sempron 2500+ system which is quite outdated in this age, I am considering an upgrade. After lots of reading, surveying and considering my budget, I have zeroed down upon two systems from both Intel & AMD platform in Rs.5000/- range

Intel - Core 2 Duo E4300/E4400 or,
AMD - Athlon X2 4800+ or 5000+

I feel that though C2D's are much better in performance to its AMD X2 counterparts, but still if you compare them on price front then (similarly priced) AMD X2 5000+ can be pitched with C2D E4400. Here X2 5000+ can be better in performance to C2D E4400.

Am I right in my conclusion? Please share your thoughts.

[ravi_9793]

In this case..I will suggest Athlon 64 X2 5000+, which is a dual-core Athlon 64 running at 2.6 GHz ...1MB, 800MHz. packed with advances such as HyperTransport technology, an integrated DDR memory controller, Cool'n'Quiet and Enhanced Virus Protection for Microsoft Windows XP SP2.

E4400-->>Intel Core 2 Duo processor with a frequency of 2GHz, 800MHz FSB, and 2MB L2 cache.

But cache momory of AMD 5500+ is low.............


I dont have price idea of both....so, cant compare on price basis.Rather I will suggest you Intel C2D E6550 (Core 2 Duo E6550 (4MB L2 cache 2.33Ghz 1333MHz FSB, Rs.7,500/- )

[assasin]

if u wanna oc ur proccy then its better to go for C2D.
else go for AMD cuz u'll get good mobos with onboard gfx and oc capablities at cheap prices.

[writealexthomas]

Thanks Ravi_9793 & Assasin for ur comments. At the moment it looks AMD X2 5000+ is a better bet than C2D E4400. My budget is maximum 7-8000 for mobo+proccy, so my priority is mid-range proccys and not higher end ones like C2D E6550 even though its my dream

[sakumar79]

You may also want to take into account the fact that C2D E4400 has a much lower power usage than X2 proccies both in idle condition as well as in max. usage.... Also, E4400 is supposed to be a very good overclocker...

Arun

[ashnik]

go for AMD 5000+ and Asus M2nPV-MX mobo...
check the prices...But in ne case don't go for Jetway....they just put the sticker for model no. on the mobo. u won't see the name JETWAY newhere on the mobo as well as in the manual...

[writealexthomas]

Does an overclocked C2D E4400 perform much better than a normal working AMD X2 5000+ ??

[assasin]

^^^ an oc'd E4400 performs like any top of the line C2D.X2 5000+ is no match for an oc'd E4400.

[sandeepk]

Yes the overclocking is very good in case of E4400. Of course with a good motherboard and RAM. I think you can overclock upto 35% without any problem with it.

[assasin]

^^^ 35% oc with a E4400 is nom prob.one can easily achieve 60-80% oc on stock cooling with a good mobo.

[writealexthomas]

Then pls. suggest the mobo for E4400 (OC friendly)

[Choto Cheeta]

^^

May be u missed this, http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66140

[writealexthomas]

Please suggest a reasonably priced decent mobo for C2D E4300/E4400.

[assasin]

^^^ without onboard gfx :
1>Asus P5N-E Sli - 5-5.5k
2>Asus P5B Dlx

with onboard gfx:
1>Asus P5B-VM

if u wanna oc ur proccy then its better to go with a mobo without onboard gfx.

[Choto Cheeta]

@assasin

Where do you see P5N-E SLi is Rs. 5k ?? I mean Source of ur Information ??

[sakumar79]

For without onboard graphics, XFX 650i Ultra Motherboard at about 5k is also a good choice...

Arun

[assasin]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

@assasin

Where do you see P5N-E SLi is Rs. 5k ?? I mean Source of ur Information ??

that price was quoted to me by my vendor though he said he'll need to confirm the exact rates.
he said that mobo will cost bet 5 to 5.5k + vat.

[Choto Cheeta]

Originally Posted by assasin

that price was quoted to me by my vendor though he said he'll need to confirm the exact rates.
he said that mobo will cost bet 5 to 5.5k + vat.

In Kolkata, its around 7k + VAT for P5N-E SLi So beware either he doesnt know, or u are getting a real steal

[assasin]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

In Kolkata, its around 7k + VAT for P5N-E SLi So beware either he doesnt know, or u are getting a real steal

its not me whos gonna buy a P5N-E SLi.my frnd is looking to buy that mobo.so i just asked my vendor.'newayz will confirm the prices after i reach Kolkata on the 11th.

[Cyrus_the_virus]

Originally Posted by writealexthomas

I am having AMD Sempron 2500+ system which is quite outdated in this age, I am considering an upgrade. After lots of reading, surveying and considering my budget, I have zeroed down upon two systems from both Intel & AMD platform in Rs.5000/- range

Intel - Core 2 Duo E4300/E4400 or,
AMD - Athlon X2 4800+ or 5000+

I feel that though C2D's are much better in performance to its AMD X2 counterparts, but still if you compare them on price front then (similarly priced) AMD X2 5000+ can be pitched with C2D E4400. Here X2 5000+ can be better in performance to C2D E4400.

Am I right in my conclusion? Please share your thoughts.

Hi, I think the AMD X2 5000+ or even the 4800+ performs better than the C2D E4400, so keeping the point of Better performance for lesser price, please make sure you go for the AMD ones and certainly not the C2Ds for the price range you are looking at. Maybe for a higher price range, things might be different

Additional info- Source: X-bit Labs


Futuremark: Synthetic Benchmarks

Gaming Applications

Office Applications

I guess, this should be quite enough to convince yourself to go with the 4800+ or the 5000+

There are lot more benchmarks done but visit the source to get all of them.

[Aniruddh]

Mate why 5000+ ? when u can get 5200+ with 2mb L2 cache for few hundred bucks more?2mb L2 cache will make a difference,and it shud b the least u shud luk for today if u going for AMD!!

[assasin]

Originally Posted by Cyrus_the_virus

I guess, this should be quite enough to convince yourself to go with the 4800+ or the 5000+

There are lot more benchmarks done but visit the source to get all of them.

these benchmarks r at stock speeds.now we hav been telling him from the 1st to go for a E4400 only if he wants to oc,else its better to go for X2 5000+.
oc both X2 5000+ and E4400,the E4400 will anihilate the X2 5000+.

[writealexthomas]

Guys, this is where the problem starts. I've read all your comments and come to realize that under normal working conditions, AMD X2 5000+ will better than C2D E4400 and there are similarly priced too. But if you consider OCing then C2D E4400 will be a winner. The catch is for OCing u need a dedicated graphics card and a real good mobo too, thereby negating the whole PRICE POINT.

Coz' for good power performance from E4400 u need 1.Dedicated Graphics Card + 2.Good Mobo. Here I fear the combined cost will be waaaay higher than intended 8-9K !!!

Intel Camp, can u suggest relatively cheaper option by which I can OC the E4400 upto 3Ghz. If buying seperate graphics card is so necessary for OCing, can I opt for a cheaper mobo with seperate gfx. card so that the combined cost is not way out of my budget of 8-9000/-

[DD3030]

Refreshing info, thx a lot, cyrus

Let me divert a bit here, for a budget of around 3.5K, AMDX2 is the only choice, no doubt. What is interesting to observe in these graphs is that within X2s, the performance increase is not linear. It is linear only for synthetic benchmarks. For gaming and other things, X2 3800+ outperforms X2 4000+ in almost all graphs, X2 4200+ outperforms X2 4400+ in almost all graphs. Infact, in some cases, X2 4200+ outperforms both X2 4600+ and X2 4800+. If these results are to be believed, then one can infer:

AMD X2 3800+ is a pretty good proc. at 2,600/-
AMD X2 4200+ at 3,500/- is the best chip within 4K

I am going with X2 4200+

BTW, experts, why the performance increase is not linear?

[Cyrus_the_virus]

Originally Posted by DD3030

Refreshing info, thx a lot, cyrus

Let me divert a bit here, for a budget of around 3.5K, AMDX2 is the only choice, no doubt. What is interesting to observe in these graphs is that within X2s, the performance increase is not linear. It is linear only for synthetic benchmarks. For gaming and other things, X2 3800+ outperforms X2 4000+ in almost all graphs, X2 4200+ outperforms X2 4400+ in almost all graphs. Infact, in some cases, X2 4200+ outperforms both X2 4600+ and X2 4800+. If these results are to be believed, then one can infer:

AMD X2 3800+ is a pretty good proc. at 2,600/-
AMD X2 4200+ at 3,500/- is the best chip within 4K

I am going with X2 4200+

BTW, experts, why the performance increase is not linear?

Hmmmm.. Interesting obeservation. I didn't notice that.

Did a bit of googling, and this is what I found.





As you can see, both 4200+ and 3800+ use a different stepping compared to the other procs. So, I guess that this stepping makes a lot of difference in the performance.