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Old 15-07-2007, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi all,

didnt have anything to do this sunday, so thought about getting a new pc. here is my shortlisted candidate. have a look and suggest me if anything is wrong. i will use this pc for programming/gaming/entertainment...basically everything

amd athlon 64 x2 3800+
asus m2n-e sli mobo
kingston 2gb 667mhz (2x1gb)
atx cabinet (450 watts smps)
seagate 250gb sata hard disk
19" lcd/tft monitor
geforce 8600gt 256mb graphic card
liteOn 20x dvd writer
creating 5.1 speakers
mouse+keyboard (is there any ergonomically correct ones around)
ups 600va

plz suggest if this is ok for gaming purposes. is it future proof (vista ready, DX 10) as im not goin to upgrade for atleast 3yrs. if u can provide prices for the above components and dealers(in delhi), i'll be extra thankful

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Old 15-07-2007, 02:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get the X2 4000+ , its under 4k's now ... it'd be a much better option than a X2 3800+ ..
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dude upragading to 4000 is rubbesh wait for a while and then only for for atleat x2 4800 which is beeter and also for vista upgrade
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whats the actual difference b/w x2 3800/4000/4800?

how abt intel core 2 duo?
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Avoid the M2N-E series,has stability issues and horrible overclockers.
Try something in AMD 690G based boards.
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Avoid the M2N-E series,has stability issues and horrible overclockers.
Try something in AMD 690G based boards.
AMD 690G - is it SLI based or normal AGP?
i think amd 690g is for ATI based cards??
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AMD 690G - is it SLI based or normal AGP?
i think amd 690g is for ATI based cards??
AMD690G is a chipset made by ATI-AMD.Its meant for AMD Socket AM2 processors. Its used by many mobo makers like Asus, MSI,Gigabyte etc. It does not support SLI or Crossfire.It is a PCI Express board and has PCIe 16X slot for graphic cards. You can use Nvidia or ATI Graphic cards with it.
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Whats the budget ??

As I would Vote for ASUS M2A-VM (AMD 690G) and a better procy, but unless we get the budget hard to comment !!!
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didnt have anything to do this sunday, so thought about getting a new pc.
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Wow!! he buys PCs when he has nothing to do on Sundays!!
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Wow!! he buys PCs when he has nothing to do on Sundays!!
yup thats true....and my budget is about 30-35k

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AMD690G is a chipset made by ATI-AMD.Its meant for AMD Socket AM2 processors. Its used by many mobo makers like Asus, MSI,Gigabyte etc. It does not support SLI or Crossfire.It is a PCI Express board and has PCIe 16X slot for graphic cards. You can use Nvidia or ATI Graphic cards with it.
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Why don't you get a Core2duo?
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Why don't you get a Core2duo?
i suppose core2duo rig will be quite extensive as compared to amd...what u think?
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That's right. But if you can throw in another Rs 5k, you will get a c2d.
It will give you satisfaction.
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everybody says core2duo is just a market gimmick intel use to sell their processor to us. does core2duo realllllly outperform amd x2??

im really confused abt processor/mobo/graphic card combo. everything else is just standard h/w. dont know what to buy...everybody has a different opinion.
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i suppose core2duo rig will be quite extensive as compared to amd...what u think?
The cheapest C2D 6300 should be around 7000 now, but its really worth........
people with very tight budget should look nowhere else but 4200+ or better 4800+

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everybody says core2duo is just a market gimmick intel use to sell their processor to us. does core2duo realllllly outperform amd x2??
Yes it does on almost all fronts......better google for some realtime benchmarks and you will know what C2D is............techreport.com, xbitlabs.com and anandtech.com are good sites to begin with...

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The cheapest C2D 6300 should be around 7000 now, but its really worth........
people with very tight budget should look nowhere else but 4200+ or better 4800+



Yes it does on almost all fronts......better google for some realtime benchmarks and you will know what C2D is............techtree.com, xbitlabs.com and anandtech.com are good sites to begin with...
if i decided to buy c2d procy, then what mobo and graphic card will be best bet with it?? and ur rig pretty coooooool
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while buying TFT's make sure u don't buy LG or Samsung (though they r the ones most sold.) Check for other brands...
And go for Intel, to avoid heating issues. Once u add a graphics card(or change it)..The pressure it will put on motherboard even with the fan, is quite painful.
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The pressure it will put on motherboard even with the fan, is quite painful.
can u elaborate on the above point?? as for lcd im thinking about viewsonic 19" but they r hard to find.
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The cheapest C2D 6300 should be around 7000 now, but its really worth........
people with very tight budget should look nowhere else but 4200+ or better 4800+



Yes it does on almost all fronts......better google for some realtime benchmarks and you will know what C2D is............techreport.com, xbitlabs.com and anandtech.com are good sites to begin with...
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Cheapest C2D is E4300 which retails for less than 5k
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Cheapest C2D is E4300 which retails for less than 5k
What I ment was cheapest 6 series C2D.....my mistake to frame it wrong.....

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if i decided to buy c2d procy, then what mobo and graphic card will be best bet with it?? and ur rig pretty coooooool
Thanks for the rig.........for mobo, depends upon the prime usage, no OCing stability/support Intel/ASUS ...way.........some moderate to heavy OCing ........ASUS P5B series or Gigabyte...way.......ur choise.....AFA GFX card is concerned, I'd say the lower variants of 8 series like 8600GT would be a good initiall choise unless you are in to some really heavy gaming I'd suggest to wait for 8800.(basically for the prices to drop under affordable range.....)

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if u r interested in OCing ur proccy , C2D is the choice , but ur budget maybe a slight constraint . if u're not interested in OCing , at stock speeds , the amd's beat the C2D's ..
since ur budget is slightly a constraint , go for a CRT ( saves abt 4k ) and take a better C2D or a better amd x2 .
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ok....as everybody is saying c2d is preffered over amd....i will go by it. as for graphic card...8600gt may b a good choice given the fact that it supports dx10 and is vista ready. as for mobo...gigabyte. but i was thinking if im buying intel procy why not go for original intel mobo rather than buying a intel chipset based mobo??

can anyone suggest me the actual model# for the below components
1) procy - c2d - E4300 (is it the right choice given the fact that im not going to upgrade for next 3yrs)
2) mobo - gigabyte/intel - which model
3) graphic card - nv 8600gt (256mb) - xfx or something else??

oh...thx for all the replies
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ok....as everybody is saying c2d is preffered over amd....i will go by it. as for graphic card...8600gt may b a good choice given the fact that it supports dx10 and is vista ready. as for mobo...gigabyte. but i was thinking if im buying intel procy why not go for original intel mobo rather than buying a intel chipset based mobo??

can anyone suggest me the actual model# for the below components
1) procy - c2d - E4300 (is it the right choice given the fact that im not going to upgrade for next 3yrs)
2) mobo - gigabyte/intel - which model
3) graphic card - nv 8600gt (256mb) - xfx or something else??

oh...thx for all the replies
GO for this configuration:

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 (Rs4500)
Motherboard - XFX 650i Ultra (Rs5500)
RAM - Kingston Value Series 2 X 1GB 667MHz DDR2 (Rs3500)
Harddisk - Seagate 160GB SATAII (Rs2100)
Graphics Card - XFX 8600GT 256MB (Rs7500)
Speakers - Creative Inpire 2.1 (Rs1700)
LCD - ViewSonic 19" VG1930WM (Rs10900)
Cabinet - Zebronics ATX with 500W Pure Platinum SMPS (Rs3000)
UPS - Microtech 800VA (Rs2300)

Cost ~ 41K

To reduce the cost: purchase CRT and only 1 GB RAM (add 1 GB later)
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Original Intel Mobos are horrible overclockers... And without overclock a 4300 wont last 3 years ( for gaming that is)... It will do quite well at this point of time but it will be obsolete (for gaming) much before the 3 years time frame u r looking at... Even with overclocking it will struggle after 3 years but its the best bet @<5K... In overclocking it comes very close to C2D X6800 (2.93 GHz) in performance !!! Check this out http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2903 I bought it a month ago for 4600+TAX ... And I do intend to overclock it in the future... At this point of time I am satisfied with its performance...

For Mobo the XFX 650i Ultra packs a lot of value and they are said to be good overclockers... It has support for 1333 MHz FSB and it might just support Penryn...

In Graphic Cards, XFX is a very well known brand... Their USP is the quality and reliability of their products... And they are good overclockers too... So u can safely go for XFX... I bought the 8600GT a month back for 7K + TAX... At its price it is an excellent product... I am playing FarCry,HL2 & FEAR at the max settings(Soft Shadows off in FEAR); Oblivion & STALKER at high settings @ 1440*900 res and I am yet to see any slideshows here...
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Original Intel Mobos are horrible overclockers... And without overclock a 4300 wont last 3 years ( for gaming that is)... It will do quite well at this point of time but it will be obsolete (for gaming) much before the 3 years time frame u r looking at... Even with overclocking it will struggle after 3 years but its the best bet @<5K... In overclocking it comes very close to C2D X6800 (2.93 GHz) in performance !!! Check this out http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2903 I bought it a month ago for 4600+TAX ... And I do intend to overclock it in the future... At this point of time I am satisfied with its performance...

For Mobo the XFX 650i Ultra packs a lot of value and they are said to be good overclockers... It has support for 1333 MHz FSB and it might just support Penryn...

In Graphic Cards, XFX is a very well known brand... Their USP is the quality and reliability of their products... And they are good overclockers too... So u can safely go for XFX... I bought the 8600GT a month back for 7K + TAX... At its price it is an excellent product... I am playing FarCry,HL2 & FEAR at the max settings(Soft Shadows off in FEAR); Oblivion & STALKER at high settings @ 1440*900 res and I am yet to see any slideshows here...
ur rig is exactly what i actually wanted....can u give me gross price of ur rig.

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Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 (Rs4500)
Motherboard - XFX 650i Ultra (Rs5500)
RAM - Kingston Value Series 2 X 1GB 667MHz DDR2 (Rs3500)
Harddisk - Seagate 160GB SATAII (Rs2100)
Graphics Card - XFX 8600GT 256MB (Rs7500)
Speakers - Creative Inpire 2.1 (Rs1700)
LCD - ViewSonic 19" VG1930WM (Rs10900)
Cabinet - Zebronics ATX with 500W Pure Platinum SMPS (Rs3000)
UPS - Microtech 800VA (Rs2300)

Cost ~ 41K

To reduce the cost: purchase CRT and only 1 GB RAM (add 1 GB later)
thx for detailed reply. i will finalise my rig very shortly.
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C2D E4300 - 4600
MSI P6N Sli Platinum - 11200
2 * 1 GB Transcend DDR2 667Mhz - 3700
Lite-On Super All Write 20X - 1550
Seagate 250 GB SATA II - 2950
XFX GeForce 8600GT - 7000
Viewsonic VG1930wm -11600
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard+ Mouse - 1450
Compro Videomate X50 - 1600
i Ball Cabinet ( with 400 watt PSU) - 1500
APC 500 VA UPS - 2050

Prices are exclusive of VAT

Bought this on 6th of June... So should be a little less now especially the RAM...
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thx phalanx.........need to go to nehru place,delhi to get the actual quote.

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APC 500 VA UPS - 2050
should i get 450watts smps cabinet or 400watts is sufficient?
for ups 600va or 500va?
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