ps2 or upgrade

Shloeb · 12-05-2007, 03:57 PM

I don't have a good rig.
My rig is
asrock 775 dual 915gl
p4 3.0 ghz ht
512 mb ddr ram
fx 5200
80 gb sata seagate hard drive
I can't play heavy games, at high or medium settings ( some of them, i can't even play)

SO i was thinking of upgrading some of the parts, like the motherboard (which doesn't allow me to use high end cards), ram ( to 1 gb) and the graphics card to a dx10 card. I think this upgrade will cost me around 15-20k which is quite expensive for me, b'coz i am just a clg student.
And my PSU which is just 350 watts.
So i was thinking that instead of upgrading the pc, shall i buy a Playstation 2? Is it a good deal? It will cost me around 8k or ppl have some oher suggestion for me?
Thank You!

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 04:12 PM

Yeah.. go for a modded PS2 .. It'll serve as your entertainment hub as well...

Who · 12-05-2007, 04:57 PM

PC in gaming is getting getting expensive by the day, every six months a game comes & brings even the high end graphics card to kness , getting consoles like PS 2 is a way to go if you are not rich, so i say go with the PS 2

karan_c1990 · 12-05-2007, 05:02 PM

go for a ps3 or a nintendo wii.. ps3 will cost u 25500 in grey market and wii (modded) will cost u around 20000 ... ps2 is outdated now.

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 05:05 PM

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PC in gaming is getting getting expensive by the day, every six months a game comes & brings even the high end graphics card to kness , getting consoles like PS 2 is a way to go if you are not rich, so i say go with the PS 2

Just partially correct.

Its just not issue of more demanding games.. Its rather about more optimization. Games created for computers aren't optimized for the particular hardware you are using, its rather generalised so as to enable a variety of system configurations to be able to run that game.

However in PS2, the games are optimised for it and hence the performance is marginally better. Moreover, there are less issues of patches, and upgrades(As pointed out earlier) .

And, since you can literally use a PS2 as your entertainment hub, complete with a DVD/DIVX/VCD/mp3 player ...its still a great buy... Click here for a tut on how to play DVD/DIVX/VCD/mp3s on PS2..

assasin · 12-05-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smit

PC in gaming is getting getting expensive by the day, every six months a game comes & brings even the high end graphics card to kness , getting consoles like PS 2 is a way to go if you are not rich, so i say go with the PS 2

and dood wat bout the game titles???pc game titles dont cost as much as PS2/PS3 titles cost.even pirated PS2/PS3 games r not as widely available as pc games r.
for gaming its way better to buy pc in all respects.
and if u hav good hardware then u dont need to upgrade every six months to play all the latest titles.

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 06:31 PM

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even pirated PS2/PS3 games r not as widely available as pc games r.

Not in durgapur. But widely available in metros

Get a reality check....

assasin · 12-05-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kaustav_geek

Not in durgapur. But widely available in metros

Get a reality check....

i didnt say that pirated PS2/PS3 games r not available,all i said was that in comparison to PC games their availability is less.

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 10:18 PM

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i didnt say that pirated PS2/PS3 games r not available,all i said was that in comparison to PC games their availability is less.

Not exactly... In case a game is available for the PS2, it willl be available....Trust me.. I know it...

BTW, if you don't wanna get banned... let us stop this discussion shall we ?
BTW, I stayed in DGP for the last 2 years.... I am..err.. was a student of DAV model till this april ....Wat abt you?? Pm me....

Shloeb · 12-05-2007, 10:24 PM

Ok so i think u ppl have told me to buy a ps2. So i should start looking for a good buy. Can someone tell me where can i find a good deal and please do give me the link.
And about the game cds. I can't buy an original game everytime. eventhough i try to buy as much original cds once in a while i can't buy everytime. The cost of a original game as more than a 512mb stick so i would opt for upgrading if i have to buy originals.
But i am gonna buy a ps2 now. Just tell me a good deal. How much the xbox 360 costs?

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 10:32 PM

XBOX 360 costs 19.5-20k in the grey market..

Shloeb · 12-05-2007, 10:33 PM

and the ps2?

kaustav_geek · 12-05-2007, 10:37 PM

7.5-8k ...

Shloeb · 12-05-2007, 10:40 PM

Are there any different models available for ps2? like the slim one etc...

keith_j_snyder2 · 12-05-2007, 11:15 PM

Only Slim one is available but instead get a PSP rather than PS2.A PSP can also run Windows XP even VISTA!!!!!!!!!!
And most importantly.....
ITS HANDY!!

assasin · 12-05-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kaustav_geek

BTW, if you don't wanna get banned... let us stop this discussion shall we ?

its nothing personal,but wat gave u the idea that i'll be banned???

Shloeb · 13-05-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by keith_j_snyder2

Only Slim one is available but instead get a PSP rather than PS2.A PSP can also run Windows XP even VISTA!!!!!!!!!!
And most importantly.....
ITS HANDY!!

I don't want a psp its expensive and its games are also expensive. i don't travel a lot.

gauravakaasid · 13-05-2007, 11:16 AM

even am planning to go for a ps2 from the grey market. any tips?

blackleopard92 · 13-05-2007, 11:42 AM

ps2 is waay obsolete. even a budget card these days can give u more power than ps2.
either go for Xbox 360/ps3 or get an upgrade.

anyways, a motherboard ,GFX card upgrade wouldn't cost u more than 10-11k and a huge lot more performance than a ps2.

kaustav_geek · 13-05-2007, 12:15 PM

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its nothing personal,but wat gave u the idea that i'll be banned???

That you included me too... Piracy talks like what we have been talking about in our two posts may lead to a ban... Again, I didn't mean anything personal...

..:: Free Radical ::.. · 13-05-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keith_j_snyder2

Only Slim one is available but instead get a PSP rather than PS2.A PSP can also run Windows XP even VISTA!!!!!!!!!!
And most importantly.....
ITS HANDY!!

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Wrong buddy, It cannot run Vista or for that matter even XP.
The thing you are taking about is just an html/flash wallpaper which makes it look as if you are running windows. Don't get ideas. They only recently emulated a stripped down version of Windows95 using an x86 emulator (only got the desktop running), but it is a far cry from running a modern os. There is prospect of porting linux to psp but i dont know if there is any1 doig it right now.
Infact if the poor guy gets himself the wrong firmware from which he won't be able to downgrade, he wont even be able to run homebrew eg. emulators or for the purpose Windows

PS2 is a tried and tested product with a lot of available games. Plus,Linux is available for PS2, you can use it more than a game console, add a hdd, and it becomes a Home theatre to which you can transfer your xvids or divx videos to view on a tv. Alsos ur music colection, connect it to your deck speakers and you
got a music system (you'll need an amp though)
u may get a second hand PS2 for Rs. 6000.

Zeeshan Quireshi · 13-05-2007, 01:12 PM

i would say get an XBox 360 , premium system for 16.5k n Core system for 12.5 k , much better than PS2 ,

also nyways PS2 game development is gonna cease so you won't be getting new games for PS2 soon , so 360 is the best choice .

also console gaming rocks . just put the disc n voila game starts

kaustav_geek · 13-05-2007, 01:26 PM

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i would say get an XBox 360 , premium system for 16.5k n Core system for 12.5 k , much better than PS2 ,

Are you sure??? Oh boy..oh boy!! Then I'll get one right away... Where did you get this info from ??

keith_j_snyder2 · 13-05-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ..:: Free Radical ::..

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Wrong buddy, It cannot run Vista or for that matter even XP.
The thing you are taking about is just an html/flash wallpaper which makes it look as if you are running windows. Don't get ideas. They only recently emulated a stripped down version of Windows95 using an x86 emulator (only got the desktop running), but it is a far cry from running a modern os. There is prospect of porting linux to psp but i dont know if there is any1 doig it right now.
Infact if the poor guy gets himself the wrong firmware from which he won't be able to downgrade, he wont even be able to run homebrew eg. emulators or for the purpose Windows

PS2 is a tried and tested product with a lot of available games. Plus,Linux is available for PS2, you can use it more than a game console, add a hdd, and it becomes a Home theatre to which you can transfer your xvids or divx videos to view on a tv. Alsos ur music colection, connect it to your deck speakers and you
got a music system (you'll need an amp though)
u may get a second hand PS2 for Rs. 6000.

Ok i might be wrong beacuse i don't own the "PSP" but for PS2 is getting in line for the "history" & u will barely see any new game in another six months(an awaited or a real rocker)
but u will see plenty of them in PSP because the PS3 is in the house.2006 might not be the year of PS3 because of launching & blah blah.....
But 207-2008 will be PS3 era(hopefully) & don't forget the PS3 will hold the biggest & greatest game library as its predessesors has the title with them.

My answer will be going for PSP because the PSP can do lot of things that PS2 can't do.
For running LINUX on PS2,

Do u really think that it will run LINUX better than ur PC?

So in my openion PSP is better,but u are master of ur own destiny,do whatever u wanna do.
Have fun!

..:: Free Radical ::.. · 13-05-2007, 08:19 PM

Linux on PS2 is aimed to only accomplish using limited computing abilities on your tv.eg., managing a media gallery (vids, pics, music), and fun stuff.
I never said it would match the computing abilities of a pc, you were the one talking of running xp/vista on psp. i just said that its bull crap.
Even i don't own a psp, but atleast i gave a few pointers to justify his purchase. the only thing that makes PSP a good alternative is the homebrew community. Sony so much crippled recent firmwares that it becomes a scary proposition to even get a decent app running. Other than portability, it is not really a good option. You may say that ps2 is in the line of history, agreed it is old, but it is the most popular console of all time. Heck, that has even justified sony to still keep producing games for the ps2 till 2008. google for the statement, i'm sure i read it.
True its not a next gen console, but it is the most hacked one and hence most useful.
A hard disk based multimedia manager makes it the best alternative to the dvd/cd players.
Plus, there are hundreds of games for the ps2, and with backward compatibility and emulation, thousands. PS3 gaming has not yet taken off, and there is already talk of PS4. They had planned to cash on blueray for ps3. I don't know, but you saying that he buy a ps3 now and wait for next year to play games on it (when exactly will blue rays and hddvds (xbox 360) be cheap in India, atleast 2-3 years or even more? when dvds are dirt cheap. i'll say, buy a ps3 later when it becomes cheaper and the games come. get a ps2 and spend the rest of you precious money on upgrades for your computer.

keith_j_snyder2 · 13-05-2007, 08:52 PM

Absolutely agreed with u in all aspects but i am not saying that buy a PS3 now & use it next year.Infact,i think its better to get a 8800 GTS rather than buying a PS3.BUt PS3 has its own abilities which makes him more than a gaming console.
My suggestion was why spending money on a going thing since u can spend money on something thats still rules.
Taking as an example,If someone has 10,000/- & he needs a card then suggest him a 8600 GT rather than 7600 GT,because the 8600 is the latest thing & also better than 7600GT.No doubt that 7600GT rocked the world in the past but there is something newer & better than the predecessors.
And we have to move on...

Shloeb · 14-05-2007, 09:12 PM

Thanks a lot for ur suggestions.
U have made me think again. PS2 is getting old. If the price of xbox 360 is around 12k then its a really good deal.Those ppl who are telling me to buy a ps3,
the ps3 is way too expensive. Its almost double of the 360. Whats its price right now?

And one more important thing, what will be the price of the games. I think they will be very expensive. I can't keep on buying original games, AFTER ALL THIS IS NOT AMERICA!!!

Will the price of the xbox 360 or ps3 decrease???
Just give me ur thoughts.

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can somebody answer my question?