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Old 22-04-2007, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi guys
i got my new mobo & proccy yesterday.its a C2D E4300 and Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP Edition.and Altec Lansing VS2321.
everything is running just fine but i've one question:
does Asus bundle the eSata cable along with the mobo pack or do i hav to buy it separately???
my mobo came with 6SATA,3pwr cables,a fan,USB & firewire header,Q-connector.
is anything missing from the bundle???

Also wats the diff bet AHCI and RAID settings in the BIOS

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Old 22-04-2007, 11:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ur content of the box is same as mine so I guess that what is all is bundled along with it.
Content of the box is mentioned on the box or instruction manual either one of it.

AHCI,
when I enabled AHCI then I found slight performance drop testing with HD tach..............so be fully informed before you switch to AHCI....................I would say that u dont need it.

http://www.intel.com/technology/serialata/ahci.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Command_Queuing
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How much did the Mobo cost you?
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hi guys
i got my new mobo & proccy yesterday.its a C2D E4300 and Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP Edition.and Altec Lansing VS2321.
everything is running just fine but i've one question:
does Asus bundle the eSata cable along with the mobo pack or do i hav to buy it separately???
my mobo came with 6SATA,3pwr cables,a fan,USB & firewire header,Q-connector.
is anything missing from the bundle???

Also wats the diff bet AHCI and RAID settings in the BIOS
Content looks same except include the wifi antenna as well........

PS:: Whats the current price of ASUS P5B Delux Wifi......
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^^^ yeah i forgot to mention the array mic and wifi antenna.
the mobo cost me 12.8k.
AHCI sux.RAID 0 is far better.
does any 1 know how does the Altec Lansing VS2321 stack up against the ATP3.i felt the sound of the former is better so i got it.
today i sold off my X2 3800+ and Asus M2N-MX for 10k.

i've hit the 3GHz mark with vcore @ 1.163(stock),idling temp of 30-33 and under full load 55-57.mem ratio is 1:1.
r the figs ok??????

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^^^ yeah i forgot to mention the array mic and wifi antenna.
the mobo cost me 12.8k.
AHCI sux.RAID 0 is far better.
does any 1 know how does the Altec Lansing VS2321 stack up against the ATP3.i felt the sound of the former is better so i got it.
today i sold off my X2 3800+ and Asus M2N-MX for 10k.

i've hit the 3GHz mark with vcore @ 1.163(stock),idling temp of 30-33 and under full load 55-57.mem ratio is 1:1.
r the figs ok??????
mmm the mobo has not gone down too much I got it for 13K. So you planning to OC your machine, I'd say you must giv it a try, lets see how well we can stretch 4300. Virtually there is no difference between 4300 n 6300 except the VT disabled, so this makes 4300 a great buy and its overclocks equaly good to 6300 if not better.

I sold of my p4 2.2 Ghz with Intel D850MV for 10K as well but I had a geforce 440MX in that as well.

Good to see your rig......start OCing......

Hey assasin check this out interesting article to read....

http://www.techspot.com/review/40-co...-overclocking/

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I think u can enable AHCI only for NCQ drives to get better performance .. otherwise it' won't make any diff.

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Did u actually reformat for that ?? If u enable AHCI i think ur Hdd won't be detected until u install the RAID/AHCI drivers .. which is only possible if u reinstall XP ?!! ...

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I got it for 11.6 + VAT ...

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RAID 0 is much better performing , but if u reformat u'll lose all the data .. AHCI along with NCQ will give enough performance for one to miss RAID if he/she is more biased at data security (rather protection) ...
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I think u can enable AHCI only for NCQ drives to get better performance .. otherwise it' won't make any diff.
In my case both my seagate hdd support NCQ feature I checked with HD tune.

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Did u actually reformat for that ?? If u enable AHCI i think ur Hdd won't be detected until u install the RAID/AHCI drivers .. which is only possible if u reinstall XP ?!! ...
On asus forum I read that we can enable AHCI without the need of reformatting & I used that method sucessfully installing the new drivers.

So dont know how AHCI is better than IDE, in theory it should be be but I tested & saw slight performance drop with both hdd.
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I got it for 11.6 + VAT ...
u got the wifi version for 11.6k????
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Yup ..... right here in kolkatta ...
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Hey Assasin, Congrats on your new System !
I think the price for the board is a bit on the higher side.Anyways,Best wishes for your overclocking endevour !
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planning on the same board but without wifi available for 10.2 k at theitwares wondering if this gfx card will work??? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102068

also advise if u go in for the asus pwdh board will it work on tht too?? thx!!
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planning on the same board but without wifi available for 10.2 k at theitwares wondering if this gfx card will work??? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102068

also advise if u go in for the asus pwdh board will it work on tht too?? thx!!
that card will work on both the boards you have mentioned.
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@deathvirus me did u get it from Rashi in kolkata??
my vendor said he got it from Rashi @ 12.8k.if 11.6k is the price then i'll hav to bargain with him......
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Most probably my vendor got it from Rashi ... i have my ways ... so got it for slightly less ... actually , the price was even higher when i got mine ..
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in which 2 slots sud i install the ram modules so as to enable dual channel mode.i'll get another 1GB stick 2morrow..
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Alternate slots ... .. u should have read the manual ..
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dont hav that much time.i'm a bit busy now a days
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in which 2 slots sud i install the ram modules so as to enable dual channel mode.i'll get another 1GB stick 2morrow..
Alternative slots. usually the slots are color coded so you need to install RAM on the same color slots for it to work in dual channel mode.....
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one more Q:
i'm getting BSOD if i use AI NAP after my proccy is oc'ed to 3GHz but is working perfectly if i use it @ stock speed.any solutions?
also if i'm playing a song and then using AI NAP the song is not playing perfectly.
i'm using Vista Ultimate

2nd prob solved.
some1 plz help me out with the first prob.

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hey assasin wats the price difference between the p5b deluxe and the p5b deluxe wifi ap???
and i m thinkin to go for a new pc soon...
so i m thinkin whether to go for
1. asus p5b deluxe + e4300 + 8600gt
2. asus p5n e sli + e6300 + 8600gt..
i wont be using SLI nytime...
also is the asus p5n e sli a good overclocker???
does it come wit the same OC options as the p5b deluxe???
my budget for mobo+proccy+gc is arnd 20-22k.. pls suggest..
also gimme any other mobo within 8-10k which is good for OCing... no SLI needed..

also assasin do u OC ur proccy just wit AI gear or using any 3rd party app??? i m new to OCing.. and can we adjust the multiplier and fsb from ASUS OC PROFIle???? if not.. then how do we go about it??

and do u think that Intel VT is really needed???
and can i OC if i take a DG965RY??
darklord,deathvirus and sam9s ur opinions also needed..

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price diff between P5B Deluxe and P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP is bout 2-2.5k.
P5N-E SLI is also a good overclocker.but has a few drawbacks:
1>no heatsink on SouthBridge,
2>passively cooled Northbridge which tends to run very hot if FSB is increased beyond 400.
3>mobo has FSB holes in the range of 400-450.
other than that the mobo is ok.
u wont be able to fit all 3 in 22k.
mobo + proccy will cost u bout 16-18k.so u'll hav to inc u budget.another good OC mobo is Gigabyte DS3P but it doesnt hav e-Sata support.
i'll suggest u to go with ur 1st option.

i oc thru the bios.i dont use any apps to oc thru windows.
u can adjust both the multiplier and fsb both from bios and from windows thru AI Suite.

VT is not needed.
u cant oc DG965RY.
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wat say abt asus p5b vm and p5n 32 e sli?? Is it a better overclocker than p5b dlx
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if u wanna oc then dont go for mobo with integrated gfx (like P5B VM).

P5N32-E SLi will be a better mobo than P5B Deluxe.but it'll cost u more than P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP and is hard to find.
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do u mean that p5b vm is a bad overclocker or it doesnt overclock at all?? Cant i reach 3ghz+ wit my 6320 under 1.3vcore on a p5b vm?? Actually if i get a p5b dlx then i ll hav to get a gc.. And that ll overshoot my budget.. So wat do u say of p5bvm+ 6320??
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i'll suggest u to buy P5B DLX instead of P5B VM.dont compromise on the mobo if u wanna oc.
just borrow a spare gfx card (even old pci ones will do) from one of ur frnds or from ur vendor and use it untill u buy a gfx card.
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Decent overclocking and Mobo with onboard graphics generally DO NOT go hand in hand.There are a few exceptions like AMD 690G. But i am yet to come across an Intel chipset with embedded GPU clocking like MAD.

As assassin says, P5B Deluxe is a very nice board.You will be surprised to know,it is the most favourite mobo of most of the legendary overclockers.

It is like the Asus P4C800/P4P800 or Abit IC7/IS7 of Socket T.

P5N32-E is excellent but has some quirks.Heat being major one.
Otherwise excellent OC board.When it comes to Memory clocking, there is no competition to 680i SLI chipset.
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i'm getting BSOD if i use AI NAP after my proccy is oc'ed to 3GHz but is working perfectly if i use it @ stock speed.any solutions?
U updated the bios yet ??

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hey assasin wats the price difference between the p5b deluxe and the p5b deluxe wifi ap???
Under 2k's .. but the WiFi feature in not worth it unless u really have a situation where u an actually use it

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and i m thinkin to go for a new pc soon...
so i m thinkin whether to go for
1. asus p5b deluxe + e4300 + 8600gt
2. asus p5n e sli + e6300 + 8600gt..
i wont be using SLI nytime..
also is the asus p5n e sli a good overclocker???
does it come wit the same OC options as the p5b deluxe???
my budget for mobo+proccy+gc is arnd 20-22k.. pls suggest..
also gimme any other mobo within 8-10k which is good for OCing... no SLI needed..
Well , for 22k's ... hmmm .. i can only suggest the following combo : E4300 + MSI P965 NeoF + 8600GT .. only then will it come down in 22k's ... my friend runs his E6600 on a P965 Neo at 3.0 GHz stable , so oc'ing is not a problem .. u won't get too many settings to mess around with ..

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also assasin do u OC ur proccy just wit AI gear or using any 3rd party app??? i m new to OCing.. and can we adjust the multiplier and fsb from ASUS OC PROFIle???? if not.. then how do we go about it??
It is always recommend to OC from the BIOS itself ...

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Not really , atleast not for general desktop users ... u should disable it anyway if u do plan to OC

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Not sure ... but i think u can't .. only the 975XBX and the XBX2 does for Intel i think .. not sure though ..

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^^^ i've updated the bios to version 1101.
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I remember that some of the asus utility such as AI Nap does not work when u r in OC mode & they reduce the ower to cpu & fans & hdd so its fine if they dont work in Oc mode.
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