athlon 64 or athlon x2 ???

[Omsck]

hi. ..
im thinking of this :
ASUS M2NPV-VM
2*512 ram 533
athlon 64 3000+ OR athlon X2 3600+ (both am2)

now the processor is worrying me
how much is the difference between these two??
is there huge performance difference??
if i put a gud gfx card later, will the proccy matter??
ive read somwhere that if u put a gud gfx card, a athlon64 3000+ works good enough ...
nd athlon 64 is almost half the price of X2
r the prices of X2 coming down ???
then i can change it to a better X2 later
so... what should i do??

[webgenius]

better get a core2duo. Its lot better than X2 or 3000+.

[Omsck]

but what abt my query??

[webgenius]

x2 is obviously better than 3000+. X2 prices don't seem to be coming down now. Their prices have already been slashed.

[deathvirus_me]

ofcourse the X2 3600+ will be better , even than an insanely oc'ed 3000+ ..

[rajasekharan]

Go for x2 3600 mate . . Put asus m2n-e if not planning to insanely overclock . You can do mild overclock .

[assasin]

If u hav the budget den go for C2D,it'll be a far better dan X2.

Athlon 64 X2 3600+> Athlon 64 3000+

[da_tcpip]

X2 is definitely better than 3000+.. and btw.. C2D are only compared Amd Fx versions.. so ts a diff story altogether

[codename_romeo]

X2.............all the way

[shantanu]

X2 is better its DUAL CORE BUDDY

[nishant_nms]

But it would be better if u get a graphics card as it will provide better gameplay with 300+ than a 3600+X2 without graphics card

[deathvirus_me]

X2 3600+ with 6100 IGP is the lowest he'd get anyway ..

[nishant_nms]

Originally Posted by deathvirus_me

X2 3600+ with 6100 IGP is the lowest he'd get anyway ..

But if he get 3000+ with 7600 GS with 256/512 MB graphics RAM then it will be better for playing games. Isn't it

[ambandla]

And if he get's X2 with 7600 GS with 256/512MB GPU RAM, it will be even better for playing games. Isn't it.

@Omsck Go and get X2. Dual core is future proof and there is amazing difference in performance between 3000+ and X2 even when 3000+ is overclocked to the extremes. btw, X2 is more overclocker friendly.

[dOm1naTOr]

@Omsck
one thing u should remember. Future games like UT07 nd Crysis nd all upcoming games are optimised to run on dual/quad cores. A single core cpu would be a bottleneck even if u have a good gcard. Those games like crysis are more CPU intense, nd in the recc. req for such games u can see "Dual core preffered" nd even an X2 3600+ would do the job.
I would suggest get X2 3600+/X2 3800+/C2D E6300 along with a 6100/6150/X 3000 IGP, and later upgrade to a mid end DX10 card (GF8 series like 8600 or 8400).

[shantanu]

HEY BUDDY X2 is really good GO FOR IT

[kin.vachhani]

x2 rocks'

[keith_j_snyder2]

U r querry is solved,i believe but check out the latest & greatest man!!!
Core2Duo is the hottest thing & u can have it with spending almost little more than AMD & it will give u value for ur money & its performance is way better than AMD....so far.U should run with the technology!!!

[Omsck]

thanx a lot evryone, ill go for the x2 then ...can someone plz tell me the current prices for : x2 3600+ , asus m2npv-vm, 160 gb sata hdd,dvd writer, 2*512 ram 533....which brand of ram shud i use ? does it matter? nd plz give prices at mumbai...

[drvarunmehta]

X2 3600+ 6k
Asus M2NPV-MX 4.7k
160GB HDD 2.9k
Liteon DVD writer 1.9k
1 GB RAM 4.5k (Buy 1x1 GB RAM not 2x512 MB)

[shantanu]

can u please tell that why not 2 *512 and 1*1 Gb is that better or just coz its less of money

[drvarunmehta]

It costs less and you leave a slot free for future upgrades.

[shantanu]

hmmm but i think that it will work a little slower.. thats mt thinking and the person acan use double bandwidth by installing it on dual channel.. means double the bandwidth and two sticks are 4.7 k 512*2 so why not to...

[drvarunmehta]

Marginally slower. You won't even notice the difference in real world applications.

But when you buy 1 GB more RAM later you will have the advantage of running in dual channel and will also have 2 slots free. If you buy 2x512 now then you need to buy 2 sticks of RAM for any further upgrade. (Because you can't run 3 sticks at once, only 1/2/4)

[DigitalImmigrant]

Hi Omsck ,
1 st things 1st -

1 X2 3600+ is at astable price point n definitely better then Athlon 64 3000+.
2 Though there is always the possibility ( seems rare n depends on
other factors ) of a further price drop . (with core 2 duo 4400 etc. launch).
3 U can save afew bucks by opting for MSI K9NGM2 (Rs. 4200) instead of
Asus M2NPV-VM . Almost same specs - Nvidia 6150 / MCP 430 chipsets.
4 If u dont really multitask then it is better to go for Athlon 64 3000+ with
a BETTER GRAPHICS solution ( if games r a priority ! ).
5 Forget this core 2 duo cheerleading . It sure is very good , BUT at
what price point ? N DOES EVERY ONE NEED IT ? - methinks NO.

SO , take u r pick if on very tight budget - 3000+ with Good Graphics.
if got the money then - go for a better technology + future proofing
i.e. 3600+ .

PS : I've checked out a lot of reviews n the MSI mobo is really good n at par with Asus if not better . And 3000+ would be apretty decent n smart choice as well (m considering the price )

[dOm1naTOr]

yes. in dual channel u will get 2x533 effective speed. Using 2 x 512 is always better if u have 4 slots. If u want to upgrade memory later just add another 2x512 or 1x1GB in the next slots nd u ll have 512+512 x2 in dual channel.

[shantanu]

yeah i wanted to say this only as 1*1 gb will be 64 bit and about 4000 mb/sec bandwidth and in dual channel its 128 bit and around 8000 mb/s

[drvarunmehta]

2x512 MB is only useful in the short term. If you add more RAM later on (you probably will seeing that 1 GB is on the low side), you will be forced to run at 2T command rate. If you buy 1 GB now and add 1 GB later you can enjoy dual channel and run at 1T command rate after your upgrade.

[dOm1naTOr]

but u will have to look for same series memory module. If u dun get it...forget dual channel.

[shantanu]

this is not aproblem i think to have dual channel series
they are easily made
after long terms also