My first computer..pls help

[BlueQuill]

Ok...I have saved about 25ks aside...maybe i can add a few more...I want to buy my own pc now...I am tired of those that hang when you try to do one or more tasks on them....

I will be mainly browaing the net, listening to music, playing games apart from the usual stuff like word processing etc etc...

Also I dont want to buy a dumb comp. that in a few months time will be as good as crap...

One of my friends has suggested me this...
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939+ ASUS A8-VM-CSM Motherboard
Kingston DDR 400 Mhz Memory 2 x 512mb in dual channel mode
Seagate 80gb SATA Hard Disk Drive
Sony 16x combo drive
Frontech Cabinet with 400w smps
Samsung 17" 793s sync master crt color monitor
Logitech Soill proof Keyboard
Logitech Optical Wired Scroll Mouse
Microtek UPS 600va
D Link Internal PCI Fax Modem-
Creative SBS 240 Simple Stereo Speakers


What do you guys think of this configuration?? Can it be my dream pc within 25/28ks??????????

Pls help

[Pathik]

yup .... its a awsum config....
jus take a sony dru 820 a instead of that dvd combo

[izzikio_rage]

no doubt the config is awesome but i am not sure you can get this in 28k bucks
what you can do is

1.get the AMD 3000+ instead of the 3200+(minor performance diff but a good difference in price)

2.Put only 512 MB of RAM single stick (you can add more later if needed)

3. although i am a big fan of DVD writers but if you are saving money try the DVD combo. (you can still write CDs)

4.finally to squeeze out the last rupee swap the 17inch monitor with a 15 inch monitor. (this is entirely up to your preference)

[aditya.shevade]

Yeah I agree with pathics. Consult with your provider and see if you can squize (Edit the spelling mistake) a DVD writer instead of a combo drive.

Aditya

[blueshift]

Go with the config that ur friend has suggested.
Are you goin to use Dial-up for net access? Buy urself a LAN card(Rs.100) if you plan to goto broadband in future.

[kisorgovinda]

@blueshift
Which brand of LAN Card is Rs. 100/=. I had bought 10/100 Dlink Lan Card last year in September for Rs. 350/=.

[BlueQuill]

thanks guys for your comments. One thing that i want to know , will this config be suitable for use in non ac room. Also with minor upgradation can i run vista on it?

I will be using gprs to connect to the net. Can i eliminate the modem now and fix one up later?

Also

thanks guys for your comments. One thing that i want to know , will this config be suitable for use in non ac room. Also with minor upgradation can i run vista on it?

I will be using gprs to connect to the net. Can i eliminate the modem now and fix one up later?

thanks guys for your comments. One thing that i want to know , will this config be suitable for use in non ac room. Also with minor upgradation can i run vista on it?

I will be using gprs to connect to the net. Can i eliminate the modem now and fix one up later?

[TechGuru#1]

Just Remember BillQuill,AMD is soon disbanding the whole 939 setup & u would anyway end up lame with a Non supported CPU - this is just a forewarning as u said

I dont want to buy a dumb comp. that in a few months time will be as good as crap...

...& i dont want 2 figure out ur other mistakes in the said configuration!
Search,study & find that out if u REALLY want a Good,Stable,somewhat future-proff PC!
* Better think a 100 times pre-purchase than a 1000 times post purchase,U wont regret afterall!

[blueshift]

Originally Posted by kisorgovinda

@blueshift
Which brand of LAN Card is Rs. 100/=. I had bought 10/100 Dlink Lan Card last year in September for Rs. 350/=.

Intex RTL 8139D. I bought this in Nov last year.

[akshayt]

Sorry to tell you but don't expect to play games on this system.
1) Most intensive games of today(last year or newer like FEAR) = No or No for practical purposes
2) Med intensive games may just run but not very well
3) Non intensive games may be ok but not good.


Amd 64 3000 Venice
Foxconn nforce 4 maybe ultra
Total: 6-7k

2 X 512mb Transcend DDR 400 ( UCCC chips, if not available then Hynix D43 chips)
Around 4k

Seagate 80gb SATA II NCQ Hard Disk Drive , not much price diff
Sony 16x combo drive
Frontech Cabinet with 400w smps, get atleast 450-500 watts as that is in not much expensive

Samsung 15", save the money, anyway games will look worse on the 17" than on the 15", really bad with lines and all because you will be forced to play many games at 640*480 with your chosen config. Get 15" and save money for the graphic card, I chose the foxcon for you where again you saved money for the graphic card, don't save money on ram, not much point.

Microsoft Internet Keyboard/Multimedia Keyboard, not sure about the one you chose but lower/lowest logitech/s are/is crap

Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse
Recommended: Microsoft Comfort 3000/5000 mouse
Microtek UPS 600va
D Link Internal PCI Fax Modem-
Altec might be better, altec lansing 2.1

graphic card: what ever you budget permits, preferably a min of 7300GT, or get a second hand 6600GT

[BlueQuill]

Originally Posted by TechGuru#1

Just Remember BillQuill,AMD is soon disbanding the whole 939 setup & u would anyway end up lame with a Non supported CPU - this is just a forewarning as u said
...& i dont want 2 figure out ur other mistakes in the said configuration!
Search,study & find that out if u REALLY want a Good,Stable,somewhat future-proff PC!
* Better think a 100 times pre-purchase than a 1000 times post purchase,U wont regret afterall!

Now thats confused me even more.... When it comes to computer hardware....I am a zero......

[rahul_becks23]

just leave that post.....and the config u have is good.

[akshayt]

just read my post.

[sakumar79]

A few points...

80 GB wont be enough for playing games and listening to music... I recommend 160 GB... Although you could get a 80 GB now and a 80 GB later, I recommend otherwise because total cost will be less this way (but if budget is problem, stick to 80 GB now)

If you are a serious gamer/avid music fan, SBS240 will be a serious letdown...
And you will need a good graphics card for gaming... Perhaps you are planning to save for it and purchase later?

Lower end Optical mouse are worse than PS/2 regular Scroll mouses IMHO... I have used Logitech before and find that it tends to suddenly move haphazardly for a couple of seconds once in a while...

No need for LAN card I think there is inbuilt LAN

Arun

[blueshift]

are yaar akshayt, use aur confuse mat kar!


@BlueQuill
1. Yes your config can stay cool in non-ac conditions.
2. Define minor upgradation.
3. I didn't understand what you meant by fixing up but you don't need a Dial-up modem for that. So you can get rid of tht. But I would recommend you opt for broadband because the GPRS will cost you more if you use it for long time.

Don't expect that your system can play all the games.
I have GeForce2 based motherboard but still i can play NFSU with low settings. So I would suggest you to buy graphics card if you plan to play high-end games.

[BlueQuill]

Can a media intensive pc be bought for less than 30k? Also that AMD wont have their socket 939 based processors after dec. i think I should change the config......???????????

Is there any thread where users have posted their config. so that I can study them before making a decision??

[chesss]

BlueQuill, note that AMD has just slashed their prices by 60%!! So just make sure you take advantage of that.

[satyamy]

Very Good Config Go ahead........

[blueshift]

Your config is media-intensive.

Q: Does AMD still plan to support socket 939-pin package parts? If so, for how long?
A: As a customer-centric company, we plan to support the socket 939-pin package parts as long as customer demand warrants it.

So,dont be afraid of losing support to AMD.

BlueQuill, note that AMD has just slashed their prices by 60%!! So just make sure you take advantage of that.

[BlueQuill]

thanks so far guys. Does amd have a socket 942 platform? Also is the price reduction already in the retail market ?

[rahul_becks23]

socket 942............................................... ...whack whack whack................................what the hell.............................................. .......................r u sure u wrote 942 or was that a typo.

[deathvirus_me]

One of my friends has suggested me this...
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939+ ASUS A8-VM-CSM Motherboard
Kingston DDR 400 Mhz Memory 2 x 512mb in dual channel mode
Seagate 80gb SATA Hard Disk Drive
Sony 16x combo drive
Frontech Cabinet with 400w smps
Samsung 17" 793s sync master crt color monitor
Logitech Soill proof Keyboard
Logitech Optical Wired Scroll Mouse
Microtek UPS 600va
D Link Internal PCI Fax Modem-
Creative SBS 240 Simple Stereo Speakers

U can save some money by purchasing Zion RAM ... they're awesome as long as u keep the oc below 10 MHz on them ... use that extra cash to get a 120 GB Hdd.. . u'll need the extra space pretty soon ...

Also ... i hope u can OC with that mobo .. then u should be doing 3800+ speeds in no time , without oc'ing the RAM itself ...

Does amd have a socket 942 platform?

Hmmm .. dont think so .... the only skt. are 939 and 940 (the AM2 are also 940's) ...

[rahul_becks23]

yeah,thats what i meant......thers no 942,buddy.

[BlueQuill]

okay what about this .....

Socket 939
amd athlon 64 3000+ 500kb l
2 cache

For the mobo which would you suggest
ASUS A8N-E or AS Rock 939 dual-SATA2

ram 2 x 512 mb transcend
hdd 80 gb seagate sata
sony combo drive
15" crt monitor
logitech optical mouse+key board
600va ups
cabinet with 2 fans and 400w power supply.

Am i missing out on anything?

[Pathik]

if u r not getting a gc then take a asus a8n vm csm

[akshayt]

1) between asrock and asus a8n e choose asus a8n e
2)get asus a8n e and a graphic card

[BlueQuill]

add to what i wrote a graphics card nvidia ge force 6600gt.


I read a few reviews on the ASUS A8NE MoBo.. and it seems most of the users have the following issues..
1. No firewire
2. On board LAN non functional
3. The chipset fan mount is flimsy and noisy


IS IT STILL A SAFE BET???

[izzikio_rage]

Asus does seem to be having some issues . I have an MSI K8NGM2 motherboard with the 3000+. FEAR, doom 3, Quake 4 and other relatively new games run fine on it (playable with medium settings). So you can get any board based on the Nvidia 6100 or 6150 and have no problems with the games . You can always upgrade later

[BlueQuill]

The choice between am2 and 939 is killing me. Given that post 2k6 939 based pc's wont be upgradble, i wonder whether its a safe choice. Also the am2 doesnt have many motherboard choices....buying one would definitely burn a hole in my pocket. Can a socket am2 based rig assembled within 30ks?