pc upgrade help

[dotcommakers]

I know you all guys are tryting to help me.. but let me make this interesting.. as this is very important to me... who will suggest me best configuration and whose configuration I will use, I will give a subdomain and 250mb space for 3 months or a subdomain and 25mb space for 6 months

hello friends

i am freelance webdesigner by job. I have following configuration now...

p4 2.4 Ghz
512mb ram
40gb HDD

Dont remember/know about motherboard it something like GVSR board.. i know its intel original board

acutlly because of latest adobe products i used and my hobby of playing 3d games.. I think i need to upgrade my pc.. in short i need to upgrade my pc such a way that it fullfill all my design needs and gaming needs.. faster pc with graphics and gaming.. i should play 3d games as well and faster randering of graphics

Here are my questions

[1] I may upgrade processor if you think it best.

[2]i want to upgrade ram from 512mb to 1gb which company's ram.. i heard I should buy ram based on board.. if it support differnt module support or channel something?

[3] very important i need a motherboard who supports all cards and addons for graphics needs like agp card/graphic card ... GPU [i dont know properly whats GPU.. is it supplimentry of graphic card ? or different thing?] I need such a board.. which support current all addons/cards and if possible future upgrade of about 2 years

[4] i think i should stick with pentium proccesor.. or should i try AMD?

I think I should have Intel only.. Please suggest Intel based configuraitons

please guys give me your suggestions

regards

[abhijit_reddevil]

Originally Posted by dotcommakers

hello friends

i am freelance webdesigner by job. I have following configuration now...

p4 2.4 Ghz
512mb ram
40gb HDD

Dont remember/know about motherboard it something like GVSR board.. i know its intel original board

acutlly because of latest adobe products i used and my hobby of playing 3d games.. I think i need to upgrade my pc.. in short i need to upgrade my pc such a way that it fullfill all my design needs and gaming needs.. faster pc with graphics and gaming.. i should play 3d games as well and faster randering of graphics

Here are my questions

[1] I may upgrade processor if you think it best.

[2]i want to upgrade ram from 512mb to 1gb which company's ram.. i heard I should buy ram based on board.. if it support differnt module support or channel something?

[3] very important i need a motherboard who supports all cards and addons for graphics needs like agp card/graphic card ... GPU [i dont know properly whats GPU.. is it supplimentry of graphic card ? or different thing?] I need such a board.. which support current all addons/cards and if possible future upgrade of about 2 years

[4] i think i should stick with pentium proccesor.. or should i try AMD?

please guys give me your suggestions

regards

1-Go for AMD 3000+/3200+

2-Get at least 1GB RAM and buy 2 sticks of 512MB and run them in dual channel mode. In order to run RAM in dual channel, put the sticks in same coloured slots.

3-Asus A8N-E will be the choice of the board and it supports all the latest features except SLI and IEEE firewire. GPU or graphics processing unit is just another name for the video/graphics card. The board supports PCI-express, the latest graphics interface, so you can be safe in the near future. For graphics card choices in the mid-range segment can be 6800GS/7600GS/7600GT. Prices will range between 8k and 13k depending on the choice.

4-Stick with AMD.

[dotcommakers]

great so amd will be right choice right? 3000 is the latest processor there right?

AMD Athlon 64 socket 939 3000+. Whats that 64 socket? for ram which company is good?

[janitha]

Originally Posted by dotcommakers

great so amd will be right choice right? 3000 is the latest processor there right?

AMD Athlon 64 socket 939 3000+. Whats that 64 socket? for ram which company is good?

Athlon 64 supports 64 bit software which will become popular in the near future, while having support for the current 32 bit also.

A 64 3000 is not the only choice. You can buy 3200, 3500 etc. Or go for dual cores like 3800, 4200 etc. Or even wait for the AM2 or Intel Conroe which will be making their appearance in the coming months.

For Ram you can get branded ones like Transcend, Kingston, Corsair etc. But make sure to buy identical pairs for dual channel operation.

[thetopcyborg]

See, one thing is clear, AMD has shorter pipelines so that data can be loaded and unloaded very fast, so it is good for gaming in which data has to be loaded/unloaded VERY fast......

Intel has longer pipelines in which data is kept for more time, it is good for designing in which data has to be kept for more times....


In layman's language, AMD rocks for gaming, and
Intel is very good for designing and multitasking

[dotcommakers]

Okay Thetopcyborg!

I think I should go for Intel. I am using my pc for almost 15 to 16 hours a day. I am designer so Intel will be best I think.

Can anyone suggest me best combination please?

[1] Motherboard which support all latest addons like graphic cards. [plz give me one best choice, which you think, is the best.]
[2] Processor
[3] Graphic card

Regards

[john_the_ultimate]

Would be helpful if u tell us ur budget.

[akshayt]

Amd 64 3500 Venice
Asus A8N E
2 X 512mb DDR 400 Transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then Hynix D43 chips), corsair value select is not supported with this motherboard.
if you do photoshop and all then rather get 2 X 1gb
Geforce 7300GT, any graphic card you take will practically have no difference to your work,

even cpu won't help you by a dozen.
hdd: for graphics : as much as possible: depends on you

pm me for best possible config for requirement

if you are going to game then get atleast 2gb ram with 7600GT or higher (>10k).
recommended min: 7900GT around 17k+
recommended : 1900xt around 30k

all these are graphic cards]

i would say wait for intel c2d and fall in x2 prices to buy a good dual core

[dotcommakers]

Originally Posted by john_the_ultimate

Would be helpful if u tell us ur budget.

I want best permonace pc.. i can spend upto 50,000 or more.... I earn from it so i can spend more on this!!

Originally Posted by akshayt

Amd 64 3500 Venice
Asus A8N E
2 X 512mb DDR 400 Transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then Hynix D43 chips), corsair value select is not supported with this motherboard.
if you do photoshop and all then rather get 2 X 1gb
Geforce 7300GT, any graphic card you take will practically have no difference to your work,

even cpu won't help you by a dozen.
hdd: for graphics : as much as possible: depends on you

pm me for best possible config for requirement

if you are going to game then get atleast 2gb ram with 7600GT or higher (>10k).
recommended min: 7900GT around 17k+
recommended : 1900xt around 30k

all these are graphic cards]

i would say wait for intel c2d and fall in x2 prices to buy a good dual core

Humm I think I will choose Intel Processor.. not AMD.. Its not good for me.... [Heating problem you know!]

Akshay John Please suggest me Any Intel based configuration... my needs are

motherboard
processor
ram
graphic card

Regards.

[john_the_ultimate]

Motherboard -> Gigabyte GA-8N-SLI Quad Royal or Gigabyte GA-8I955X Royal
Processor -> Intel Pentium D 820/830/840 any of these
Ram -> 2GB (1GB x 2 sticks)
Graphics Card -> Anything above 6600gt (which comes in ur budget).

For price check with ur local vendors.

By the way AMD runs cooler than INTEL. So no heating problem with AMD.

[janitha]

dotcommakers wrote
"Humm I think I will choose Intel Processor.. not AMD.. Its not good for me.... [Heating problem you know!]"

For the last few years and even now, it has been AMD which was running very cool and it was Intel which was heating up and consuming lot of power. The situation may change with the introduction of Core 2 Duo from Intel, later this month, but God alone knows when it will be available to us

[dotcommakers]

Originally Posted by john_the_ultimate

Motherboard -> Gigabyte GA-8N-SLI Quad Royal or Gigabyte GA-8I955X Royal
Processor -> Intel Pentium D 820/830/840 any of these
Ram -> 2GB (1GB x 2 sticks)
Graphics Card -> Anything above 6600gt (which comes in ur budget).

For price check with ur local vendors.

By the way AMD runs cooler than INTEL. So no heating problem with AMD.

6600gt mean which company

will that gigabyte board will have four slot for ram or two?

will it have all card support?

also

John, Janitha currently i have two pc one is AMD 2200 and second is P4 2200

sorry not to offense you but

when i went to purchase AMD .. vendor itself says AMD will heat much in comparison of P4 so he advise me to keep two fans thats why i am saying.. and also my one friend which is motherboard repairer and my nephew who works in a computer hardware office also told me ... not to use AMD

[pawannayak]

Hey there I have two or three suggestions if you dont mind... i will list them as I go along

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - SOCKET 939
Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo2 - SOCKET 939
Memory: 1GB DDR Kit (2 X 512MB) OCZ or Corsair
Video Cards :Gigabyte GV-N68U256D 256MB GeForce 6800 Ultra
or Gigabyte GV-R80X256V 256MB X800 XT
Antec True Power 480W and case
Seagate ST3200822A (200GB) Baracuda 7200RPM (8MB cache)
Lite On DVD+/-R/RW Drive

Thats one.. will let you know of another if required

AMD Recommendation
Processor: Athlon 64 4000+ 90nm
Motherboard: DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR
Memory: 2x512MB DDR OCZ or Corsair minimum
PCIe SLI GPU: 2 x 6800GT - eVGA, MSI, or XFX
Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA or Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250GB 16MB SATA
Lite-On DVD+/-R/RW
Antec SmartPower 2.0 500W AND CASE


Intel Recommendation
Processor: Pentium 650 3.4GHz 2MB
Motherboard: MSI P4N Diamond or ASUS P5ND2-SLI Deluxe
Memory: 2x512MB DDR2 Corsair

Heres one more it might cost around 15-20k more than your budget

[john_the_ultimate]

Originally Posted by dotcommakers

6600gt mean which company

will that gigabyte board will have four slot for ram or two?

will it have all card support?

also

John, Janitha currently i have two pc one is AMD 2200 and second is P4 2200

sorry not to offense you but

when i went to purchase AMD .. vendor itself says AMD will heat much in comparison of P4 so he advise me to keep two fans thats why i am saying.. and also my one friend which is motherboard repairer and my nephew who works in a computer hardware office also told me ... not to use AMD

For 6600gt go for any brand such as XFX,LEADTEK,MSI,GAINWARD etc.

For gigabyte mobo..see the details here GA-8N-SLI Quad Royal -> http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=180 for review see this http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1952

For review of Gigabyte GA-81955X Royal see here: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1834

And one more thing, the heating issue regarding AMD is the thing of the past.
Now AMD cpu runs cooler and consumes less power than Intel. And its price to performance ration is certainly better than Intel (in most cases).

[pawannayak]

Processor Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz (Dual-Core)
Motherboard Gigabyte G1975X (Socket 775)
RAM 2 x 512 MB DDR2-667 any
Hard disks 2 x 160 GB Samsung HD160JJ (7200 U/min) [320 GB in a RAID 0 array]
Graphics card Asus EN7600 GT, 256 MB, 350 MHz
Minimum 500W power supply and any good case like Antec
DVD-burner LG GSA-H10A


This is for all those Intel fans

[janitha]

[QUOTE=
sorry not to offense you but

when i went to purchase AMD .. vendor itself says AMD will heat much in comparison of P4 so he advise me to keep two fans thats why i am saying.. and also my one friend which is motherboard repairer and my nephew who works in a computer hardware office also told me ... not to use AMD[/QUOTE]

The vendors will have their own interests and agenda, and most of them are ignorant really. As of now, it is Intel whcih will require more case fans.

And the repairer and your friend might have been referring to the AMD processors which were popular years ago.

[dotcommakers]

ok in is AMD 64 willl increase perfomance? and will it be ok to run win xp pro [not 64] ? Will all softwares work fine?

I am confused.. should i go for intel or AMD

i checked..

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E10272,00.html

So new processors are not heating so much?

[john_the_ultimate]

Amd is good for gaming but for multimedia and graphic related stuff, Intel exceeds (not by much). But dual core from both AMD and INTEL are good.
So if u r buying dual core CPU then opt for anyone, depending on ur budget.
Dual core is certainly future proof.

As for heating.....I have AMD64 3000+ (stock frequency 1.8GHz) running at 2.7GHz on stock cooling with idle temp. of 40-41C and load temp. of 52-53C.
So guess AMD surely runs cooler.
Before had Intel Prescott 3.0GHz HT......idle temp, of 48-49C and load of 65-66C.

One more thing I am running WINXP PRO 32-bit on it and also have used 64-bit version. So no problem with compatiblity with 32-bit and 64-bit version. Even vista runs fine on my friends machine (AMD64 3500+).

[dotcommakers]

ok john can you suggest me good intel configuraiton.. i can leave gaming.. but cant graphics and multimedia...

[john_the_ultimate]

See earlier posts..........already options are given (u said u needed mobo + cpu + gfx card).

[akshayt]

I don't want anything from you except good rep points and thanks, no space required.

Requirement:
Lower mainstream Gaming
Web surfing and word precessing
Photoshop and other 2D and some 3D graphics
Basic Multitaking

I am suggesting you the best thing you can get in your budget, 50k is not much, but here it goes:

Amd 64 3500 Venice : 5700

Asus A8N E: around 5500 or so

2 X 1GB DDR 400 Transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then Hynix D43 chips) : 7800 and up, upto 10k depending upon place and all

Seagate 300GB SATA II NCQ HDD : 4800

I will continue later.

[dotcommakers]

humm no AMDS plz for now...

hows this?

intel d102 motherboard
Pentium D 3.0 Ghz

[akshayt]

1) As far as temp goes, Amd should be better.
2) I don't know a thing about that mobo, ask somebody else.
3) There can 2 Pentium Ds, 830 and 930. 830 is a big no. 930 is ok but then it comes for twice the price of Amd 64 3000 and won't be much better either, might in some games not even be as good atleast theoritically. Also your budget doesn't permit that cpu.

I am telling you buy a Amd and you will not regreat at the moment unless you can afford dual core + good graphic card, your budget will cut the graphic card and ruin your dream of playing.

[dotcommakers]

see Akshay I dont want gaming related stuff.. i dont want to play games.. its optional thing, not only thing.

My work is photoshop and flash so i need such configuration that i can open big photoshop files easily.. i mean fast graphics rendering..

anyway lets forget intel... if you all guys say so...

Plz let me know.. Will AMD 64 will run winxp 32 version and all softwaers very well?

[akshayt]

yes, Amd 64 will. As far as rendering goes, Intel will definitely be better, Intel D 930 should crush a Amd 64 3500 to its kness, but the thing is that Pentium D 930 comes much more expensive.

I suggest that you wait for Intel C2D, and decide whether to get Amd X2 or Intel C2D after price fall.

Anyway, if you want you can oc any Amd cpu, especially Venice, and Intel C2D should also be really overclockable with the right mobo and ram etc.

[janitha]

Originally Posted by akshayt

Amd 64 3500 Venice
Asus A8N E
2 X 512mb DDR 400 Transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then Hynix D43 chips), corsair value select is not supported with this motherboard.
if you do photoshop and all then rather get 2 X 1gb
Geforce 7300GT, any graphic card you take will practically have no difference to your work,

even cpu won't help you by a dozen.
hdd: for graphics : as much as possible: depends on you

pm me for best possible config for requirement

if you are going to game then get atleast 2gb ram with 7600GT or higher (>10k).
recommended min: 7900GT around 17k+
recommended : 1900xt around 30k

all these are graphic cards]

i would say wait for intel c2d and fall in x2 prices to buy a good dual core

I feel you are absolutely wrong regarding Corsair Value Select Ram + A8N-E.
Till yesterday, I have been using A64 3000 and A8N-E with 2x 512MB Transcend Ram which was working perfectly. I wanted to upgrade to 2GB (2x1GB), but when today I went to my dealer, he had only 512 GB sticks of Transcend but he had heaps of blister packs of 1GB Simtronics and Corsair Value Select. He suggested Corsair though Simtronics was much cheaper. Remembering your post, I asked him whether it will work with A8N-E. He laughed loudly and said it will definitely and otherwise I can return it. I bought it returning the Transcends under buy back. After returning home and putting them into the DIMM slots, it is working fine. The only draw back is that the old Transcend had the timings of 2.5,3,3,8 and the new Corsair has 3,3,3,8.

[dotcommakers]

hi guys i have just upgraded

Intel dual core 2.6 with asus rd2 motherboard and 1gb ram

can any one tell me which graphic card [pci express] i should purchase for this RD2 Mother board?

[drvarunmehta]

That depends on how much money you have.

Forsa Geforce 7600GS Rs. 6700
Palit Geforce 7600GT Rs. 8900
Both are good buys depending on how much you can afford.

[dotcommakers]

5k is budget... will it work on my RD2 asus mother board and 1gb ddr2 ram?

[drvarunmehta]

Try to get atleast the 7600GS, but if you have to stick to 5k, best you can do is 6600 which IMO isn't any good.
And yes, they will work on your mobo.