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Old 09-05-2006, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My friend wants to buy two SATA HDD and put it in raid. I sugested it the SEAGATE 7200.9 SATA II 160 GB model with 8Mb buffer..... But the problem is i am unable to get it anywhere in mumbai. Can somebody please point it out to me as to how can i get it here in mumbai.... the model number is ST3160812AS....


Also if possible please write down other alternatives as i am only familiar with seagate products... The products must be in similiar price range +/- 1000 bucks.... and SATA II and 5 years warranty.... Thanks in advance...
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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seriously speaking get a hitachi sata 2 hdd......i tried samsung 2 disc.....bad sectors arised......then seaget one.......it develioped bad sectors...now i have hitach sata 2 250gbdisc..........

got it for 5.65k through comp selection(also got service centre details)

prices are ard 1k mor down now.........model u can get via hitachi site if u cant ill find it for u........

also the main disc on raid is always a low gb disc mainly ppl keep...i guess to save money....btw western digital is favourite for overclockers for it......but the fastest speed 10.2k speed one...cost bomb ard 6k for 36gb
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is it the hitachi desktar model k750... can u pls give me the exact model number....... and does it have NCQ and backward compatible...... And where exactly is the service center in mumbai... near laminton road....
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Will SATA II really make a diff. ??? Get a higher capacity SATA drive .. that too should have 8 MB buffer ... preferably WD or Seagate ...
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Will SATA II really make a diff. ??? Get a higher capacity SATA drive .. that too should have 8 MB buffer ... preferably WD or Seagate ...
How do you get 26A in 12V rails with Antec SP350. As far as know, it is only 20 A (10+10). Sorry if I am wrong.
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is it the hitachi desktar model k750... can u pls give me the exact model number....... and does it have NCQ and backward compatible...... And where exactly is the service center in mumbai... near laminton road....
Last week I bought the Hitachi SATA II 250GB T7K250 HDD for 4650/- from Prime ABGB at Lamington Road. This has NCQ and it is running on my old ASUS P4 board as a SATA I drive at the moment without any problems. Dont know about the location of service centre but I would give it to Prime in case of a problem.

The SATA II drives seem to be supplied set as SATA I to avoid problems with running them as SATA II on a SATA I controller.

To set the Hitachi drive to run as SATA II you have to make this change with Hitachi's software "Hitachi Feature Tools" which can be downloaded from......
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm


WARNING IN HITACHI's DOWNLOAD PAGE......

Warning!: Switching your drive to support 3.0Gb/s, or enabling spread spectrum clocking and then using it, may render your drive unusable in a system that can't support these functions.

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Whats the difference b/w a ATA, SATA & SATA II based HDDs?
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Here u go ... according to the Antec spedcs.. the SP2.0 350W does 10A across 12V1 , and 15A across 12V2 .... thats 25A across 12V ... almost 26A .. my bad ....

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Here u go ... according to the Antec spedcs.. the SP2.0 350W does 10A across 12V1 , and 15A across 12V2 .... thats 25A across 12V ... almost 26A .. my bad ....
Yes, you are correct and I was mistaken.

In this context, I would like to know whether it is through the normal 20/24 pin mobo connector that the two 12V rails supply power. In other words, can I replace my ordinary single rail PSU that I am curently using (with A8N-E), with the dual rail PSU? Please clarify since I plan to buy a better one. And what are the approximate street prices of 350 W and 400 W Antec SMPSs? I feel the online stores charge too much.
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Whats the difference b/w a ATA, SATA & SATA II based HDDs?
ATA only upto 133 MBPS
SATA I 1.5 GBPS
SATA II 3.0 GBPS
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Last week I bought the Hitachi SATA II 250GB T7K250 HDD for 4650/- from Prime ABGB at Lamington Road. This has NCQ and it is running on my old ASUS P4 board as a SATA I drive at the moment without any problems. Dont know about the location of service centre but I would give it to Prime in case of a problem.

The SATA II drives seem to be supplied set as SATA I to avoid problems with running them as SATA II on a SATA I controller.

To set the Hitachi drive to run as SATA II you have to make this change with Hitachi's software "Hitachi Feature Tools" which can be downloaded from......
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm


WARNING IN HITACHI's DOWNLOAD PAGE......

Warning!: Switching your drive to support 3.0Gb/s, or enabling spread spectrum clocking and then using it, may render your drive unusable in a system that can't support these functions.
It was about 6 months back that I bought my Hitachi 80 GB SATA II HDD. When used, it was shown as SATA I and when I searched their web site, it was known that the disks are shipped as SATA I due to compatibility problems and that it could be upgraded to SATA II by using the tool mentioned above. I dounloaded the Feature Tool and the Manual and I came to know that to use it I need a FDD. Having abandoned the FDD long back, I did not want to fit it in my new system. Today when I happened to visit their site again, there was a CD Image of the same SW. So I downloaded it and upgraded the disc successfully to SATA II using it. When rebooted, NCQ also became enabled.

When I tested the drive speed it was
Theoretical Limit -300 MBPS
Sustained Speed -60 MBPS

Previously it was
Theoretical Limit -150 MBPS
Sustained Speed -60 MBPS

So it seems that for practical reasons, it is of absolutely no use! We can only boast of 3GBPS.
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one query :: i had non SATA hdd samsung 40 gb 7200 rpm , can i be and use sata or sata 2 hdd with the old hard drive simultaneosly i.e. on other IDE ?????
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wht is raid, ide ...
how do i find wat (ATA,SATA I, SATA II) my hdd is?
wat is sustained speed? is it something like wat nero shows when copying CD/DVD?
How do i find the sustained speed?
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