Intel takes the crown back from AMD , After years....

**Kniwor** · 08-03-2006, 03:32 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713

it's impressive....

The one area where AMD has been the clear leader for years has been in gaming performance - Conroe changes everything.

**Nemesis** · 08-03-2006, 07:00 AM

Moved here from QnA.

@Kniwor: You're an old member - please post in the right section

**vijay_7287** · 08-03-2006, 08:24 AM

interesting
but it hasnt hit the markets yet
and wat would be the price?

**Vyasram** · 08-03-2006, 09:18 AM

wow, everything is in reverse in the tests. Maybe this is intel's gamer edition

**mohit** · 08-03-2006, 10:49 AM

guys its six months more till its actually launched .. so keep your excitement on hold

**MysticHalo** · 08-03-2006, 11:08 AM

Maybe this offers a better read if u r a bit confused-:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/03/07/core/index.php

**MysticHalo** · 08-03-2006, 11:11 AM

And what AMD has 2 say-:
http://www.firingsquad.com/news/news...?searchid=9344

gxsaurav · 08-03-2006, 11:25 AM

cool, finally the compatibility of Intel (SSE3 etc) with the performance per watt of AMD. Rendering will rock on this

**ashnik** · 08-03-2006, 03:24 PM

i think till the conroe launch, AMD will have AM2 ready to kick Intel A**..

**Kniwor** · 08-03-2006, 06:06 PM

@ nemesis
in what way i am troubleshooting a hardware problem....

anyhow guys i am not suggesting that AMD is out of the seat... but atleast there is some competition after long time

by the time this is out amd will be on AM2 and DDR2

**rockthegod** · 08-03-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by ashnik

i think till the conroe launch, AMD will have AM2 ready to kick Intel A**..

Huh !!! This is Intel's New Core architecture already kicking FX60 O/C 's A** by a huge 20-28% margin in all tests.... the final product may be not so much but prolly at least will take a 10% lead in all tests... AM2 is just a socket type and those processors will retain the same architecture as X2s noww.. so no way for AMD until they come out withy ntirely new architecture/more speed!!!

And for ur info:
CONROE Runs @ 2.66 GHz..... Estimated cost when it comes out: $533
Source: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=787

while AMD FX60 @ 2.8 GHz.....around $900...

Now which one will u choose ???

**vijay_7287** · 08-03-2006, 07:04 PM

even goin by the arguements in this thread
the lower end gamin market is still with AMD
in India, a 50k PC is a high end thingy - ONLY for GAMERZ
given the economic scenario
Athlon64 3500+ is gaming proc here

so AMD still RULES

gxsaurav · 08-03-2006, 07:12 PM

i don't think so.

in india, if 10 PCs are sold, weather branded or assembled, 8 are Intel, the reason, cos people know Intel as the 2nd name for CPU.AMD marketing sux everywhere.

**rockthegod** · 08-03-2006, 07:18 PM

Not only the lower end but still the higher end gaming markets in India are mostly AMD.. and that scenario is not goin to change (in India) for some time even after Conroe comes out !!!

One fact is that the Competition must not get cold, thatz my point, with Intel's pathetic processors (compared to AMDs) over the last few years were already shifting the market in favor of AMD, and we dun wanna see another INTEL like monopoly now, do we ?? Competition slams/boosts up technological innovations... and thatz what must go on .. a REAL HOT FIGHT BETWEEN INTEL AND AMD for the performance crown....

dun we remember tht when thr was Intel's monopoly existent, it took about 10 years to reach 1 GHz from 100 MHz, but when AMD got into the scene, Competition boosted up and that resulted in 2 GHz frm 1 GHz with ane and a half year.....

We (at least I) dun want saturation @ ne level in the hardware scenario !!!!!

**AcceleratorX** · 08-03-2006, 09:35 PM

Intel will have the crown for a short period of time IMO. Just like Pentium 4 kicked the Athlon XP till the Barton core came about (which was competitive). Then the AMD Athlon64 came out and dominated Intel. Now Intel's releasing all new architecture, Pentium 4 vs. Athlon XP revisited......

In the end, both companies will perform almost equally.

The way technology progresses, I'm thinking about an NVIDIA CPU-within-a-GPU running at 2.6GHz (16 cores running in parallel) with support PixelShader 6.0 and Vertex Shader 5.5, SSE7, 3DNow! Hardcore edition. This shall have the ability to make wormholes within the pipeline allowing it to predict what instruction is coming next, therefore preparing the CPU/GPU for it, increasing performance. The wormhole is also used to speed up performance by time shifting to the end point.

The setup is cooled by a giant watercooling system called the IceFlowFX.

**hitman_never_dies** · 08-03-2006, 09:45 PM

AMD is better than intel like nvidia is better than ATI

though i using intel

lol

**drvarunmehta** · 08-03-2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by hitman_never_dies

AMD is better than intel

Maybe for gaming but not for A/V encoding. While you're at it compare a laptop with Intel Core Duo against the best that AMD has to offer and see if you feel the same.

nvidia is better than ATI

Even as you make stupid statements like that, the X1900XTX continues to kick nVidia's a$$.

**rockthegod** · 09-03-2006, 01:45 AM

wait till nvidia 7900 GTX come out next later this month..

**eddie** · 09-03-2006, 10:20 PM

It was in today's TOI as well. I came in to ask you guys what all it is about. 40% better performance at 40% lower power consumption? Cool stuff

**MysticHalo** · 10-03-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by rockthegod

wait till nvidia 7900 GTX come out next later this month..

Well, it isnt gonna be much surprise with 2 chips per card drawind extremely high amounts of power (the one that the processors r trying to conserve).
I think it is bound to happen. The next card that ATi will release will be better than the 7900 GTX and so on. It is a continuous cycle towards betterment.
But this card is gonna be heavy on performance and on pockets. Just have a look at the specs-: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=915

Well, this has led me to believe, successor ousts the predecessor.....atleast in the hardware industry....and i m pretty sure that whatever AMD gets next is gonna be better than Conroe.

PS: BTW, speaking of cards, ATi r planning a 1 GB gfx card by May.....this year

**Nemesis** · 10-03-2006, 08:57 PM

@Kniwor: You weren't exactly posting a question either so it didn't belong to QnA. I was thinking whether to move it to Latest News or here then decided to move it here so that we could have a good hardware discussion.

Since the processor is still 6 months away, either Intel can work on it and make it even better, or AMD can come out with a product that will beat the Conroe when it comes out in six months. As of now, the Conroe is the performance king but only time will tell if Intel can hang on to their lead over AMD processors.