how to make a internal hdd external hdd

rajesh_verma · 18-02-2006, 04:24 PM

Hello I have a 5gb internal hdd i want to use it as external. Please tell me the whole proceedure to make it as external

susk21 · 18-02-2006, 08:40 PM

dude!! you will get an external USb casing for RS 700/-.
you can also connect you CD & DvD writer in it. Check if it supports USB 2.0(faster speed!!)

But if you dont have an HDD to boot from, then how will you start your computer?
I am not sure about this But if you still want to do so then try knoppix.The os which runs from CD!!
check if it supports usb devices!! If this works:: WALLA!!
Cnverted from InTeRnAl to ExTeRnAl

Enjoy!!

amitsaudy · 18-02-2006, 10:04 PM

Seems he has another hdd to boot from as he has not stated that.
If thats it then no need for the live cd.
Just buy an ide to usb hdd casing.

grinning_devil · 19-02-2006, 12:28 AM

on looking at this thread just gave me an idea to make use of my old 40GB IDE PATA HDD(currently iam using 2 SATA drives)....

guys we just need a free USB port...thats it ???
lemme search on ebay and hen i'll look for it in nehru place!!

infra_red_dude · 19-02-2006, 12:51 AM

yeah, if possible get a usb2.0 casing. connect it to a usb2.0 controller supported port and thats it!

grinning_devil · 19-02-2006, 07:42 AM

okk....ebay doesnt have any ...
what will be the expected price ???
under 1 k ???
and recommended manufacturer ??

amitsaudy · 19-02-2006, 07:42 PM

Buy only a branded one.
TRANSCEND

grinning_devil · 19-02-2006, 09:22 PM

any online shop i can buy frm...
bcoz i think locating a branded casing in nehru place will be a lil difficult....
nd ofcourse the price..

ashu888ashu888 · 20-02-2006, 11:05 AM

infra_red_dude wrote:

Quote:

yeah, if possible get a usb2.0 casing. connect it to a usb2.0 controller supported port and thats it!

WIll there be any transfer issues like slow transfer speeds using a USB casing and conenctivity??

amitsaudy wrote:

Quote:

Buy only a branded one.
TRANSCEND

Can u try to post a screen shot of how this External USB casing (for an Internal HDD)looks like??

cheers n e-peace.....

grinning_devil · 20-02-2006, 11:54 AM

@ashu888ashu888,check out this link... have lots of cases...

http://www.npithub.com/product/pt_view.php?pcatid=1134

rajesh_verma · 23-02-2006, 11:36 AM

amit u r right i had another 80gb hdd from which i m booting
Thanks everyone for nice suggestion

grinning_devil · 23-02-2006, 05:29 PM

purchased a local brand...(gemini) USB2.0 External HDD Casing.... working like a charm!!
costed me 400bucks...cheap na ??

susk21 · 23-02-2006, 06:02 PM

are yaar!!!!
i bought it for 700/- RS.

KAY PHATAPHAT PRICE KAM HOTA HAI!!!!!

I am wondering about the prices after this budget!!

grinning_devil · 23-02-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susk21

I am wondering about the prices after this budget!!

lets hope for the best !!
i also purchased 50 blank DVD's Local Brad...for 450/- ...comes down to 9rs per DVD ... !! have burned 3 down...looking god till now...

mayurs85 · 25-02-2006, 02:43 PM

Dude tat is all True salla Budget mein kya hoga God Only Knows.
BTW 4m Where did u get d DVD yaar v v Cheap i get Mosarbaer for 20 Bucks /DVD.
Mulund really Sucks

grinning_devil · 25-02-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayurs85

Where did u get d DVD yaar

frm nehru place,delhi....
nd dont compare ur moserbaer with my local unbrabded one...
they are not comparable...
the pack of 100 DVD's frm Moserbaer were for 1550/- !

Ankur Gupta · 25-02-2006, 09:38 PM

Well grinning_devil is right on the money!!!!
he has qouted the prices of np perfeclty right.
moser for 20/-
sprint-15/-
unbranded-10/-

susk21 · 25-02-2006, 09:47 PM

"how to make a internal hdd external hdd"
Its going off topic guys.Dont post for DVD costs.

kanak · 27-02-2006, 01:37 AM

ok is it better to buy a 5.25" enclosure (as it has a fan), and use a mount to keep the 3.5" drive secure in it

OR

to buy a 3.5" enclosure (no fan)

@ashu

Regarding the difference in speed, there is definitely a latency involved, but it isn't noticable if you use USB 2.0. If on the other hand if you use USB 1.1, then your transfers are gonna take forever

Eazy · 27-02-2006, 11:07 AM

I have 3 USB2 cases (2 x 3.5" and 1 x 2.5") and 2 USB2IDE cables and I have found the Vantec cases the BEST - the Vantec 3.5" case cost me 2500/- ... I think it is worth it to get this case. The other 3.5" case I have is the BAFO which does not recognise HDDs larger than 127GB.

Regarding speeds.....

when I have my 2 HDDs conntected to the computers Controller I get a data transfer speed of around 48mb/s

when I move one of these 2 HDDs to a USB2 case the data transfer speed comes down to 24mb/s

The USB2 2.5" case with a Seagate 20GB 5400RPM HDD gives me 11mb/s

This same Seagate 2.5" HDD when connected to the USB2IDE cable gives me 18mb/s

The Techcom USB2IDE cable is not good. The one to buy is...
http://www.dansdata.com/rdriver.htm
I got one of these from Lamington Road for 650/- 6 months back - I heard it is a bit cheaper now. The advantage of this cable is that it takes 2.5" and 3.5" HDDs as well as Optical drives and writers.

casanova · 22-03-2006, 06:35 PM

Hey, u people bought the usb casing. Does it boot from the usb Casing??

yogi7272 · 23-03-2006, 12:22 AM

hey easy , i got " R DRIVER I " today .. which supports 3.5'' inch hdd and cd/dvd rom drives ... but has no support for 2.5'' inch .. for 375 rs from road side vendor at lamington road ..

now it is working very well with hdds but i am having no luck with odd drives .. could u pls help me in this regard .. what should be the jumper settings for odd drives .. master . slave or cable select ? pls help ..

adityaksharma · 23-03-2006, 03:04 AM

there arent any speed issues..... i use the same funda the 700 unbranded HD casing its usb 2 and it works jus fine and ..... all my games run frm tht hd and there are no performance issues so i dont think tht is too much of a bother

Eazy · 23-03-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogi7272

hey easy , i got " R DRIVER I " today .. which supports 3.5'' inch hdd and cd/dvd rom drives ... but has no support for 2.5'' inch .. for 375 rs from road side vendor at lamington road ..

now it is working very well with hdds but i am having no luck with odd drives .. could u pls help me in this regard .. what should be the jumper settings for odd drives .. master . slave or cable select ? pls help ..

There are 2 versions of R Driver - with and without 2.5" support. The one with this support is newer and supposedly more stable. I paid 650/- for it to PC Guide in Lamington Road some 6 months back. Drives should always be jumpered as MASTER when connected to USB cases or cables.

Eazy · 23-03-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casanova

Hey, u people bought the usb casing. Does it boot from the usb Casing??

So far I got only Win98SE to start off an external USB HDD - I was not successful in getting XP to start off a USB HDD.

casanova · 24-03-2006, 12:09 PM

I brought 1 casing yesterday, but it is unable to load the drivers. I read the manual, it said connect ur HDD to Master. Is it necessary to do so.
Also, when I switched the power off, it said "Loading of drivers complete. Please restart." Even after I restarted it didnt show my HDD. Ne help

Eazy · 24-03-2006, 01:41 PM

I have 3 USB cases and 2 USBtoIDE cables and have never needed to install any drivers for XP. Even the Win98SE which runs on a HDD in a USB case did not require me to load any drivers.

Which OS do you use ? You should run XP with SP2 and there should ne no problem with the external USB drives.

In XP you have to format the drive to get it to show in Windows Explorer - format the HDD from Disk Management of XP.

Control Panel / Admin Tools / Comp Management / Storage / Disk Management

HDD in a USB case should always be set as a Master drive.

casanova · 24-03-2006, 02:59 PM

I am using WinXP Pro SP2.

Quote:

In XP you have to format the drive to get it to show in Windows Explorer

That HDD has been formatted and has some data. (I was using it as a primary HDD till December)
Will i have to repartiton

Quote:

HDD in a USB case should always be set as a Master drive.

Thx mate

yogi7272 · 24-03-2006, 08:15 PM

HEY EAZY BUDDY , have u tries odd drives with these usb to ide cables ..?

then which drives u have successfully used . i mean which brand drives ?

sabman · 02-04-2006, 05:18 PM

With hard drives connected in casings, can i use them for long hours like normal hdd ? what are it's advantages and disadvantages over an external hard drive?

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casanova The Frozen Nova Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Trespasser in Virtual Land Posts: 1,641	I brought 1 casing yesterday, but it is unable to load the drivers. I read the manual, it said connect ur HDD to Master. Is it necessary to do so. Also, when I switched the power off, it said "Loading of drivers complete. Please restart." Even after I restarted it didnt show my HDD. Ne help __________________ I dream of a better tomorrow... where chickens can cross roads and not have their motives questioned. www.nerdweed.blogspot.com

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18-02-2006, 08:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
susk21 Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 79	dude!! you will get an external USb casing for RS 700/-. you can also connect you CD & DvD writer in it. Check if it supports USB 2.0(faster speed!!) But if you dont have an HDD to boot from, then how will you start your computer? I am not sure about this But if you still want to do so then try knoppix.The os which runs from CD!! check if it supports usb devices!! If this works:: WALLA!! Cnverted from InTeRnAl to ExTeRnAl Enjoy!!

18-02-2006, 10:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
amitsaudy Alpha Geek Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 525	Seems he has another hdd to boot from as he has not stated that. If thats it then no need for the live cd. Just buy an ide to usb hdd casing.

19-02-2006, 12:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
grinning_devil Wise Old Owl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Side Crater, Mars Posts: 1,038	on looking at this thread just gave me an idea to make use of my old 40GB IDE PATA HDD(currently iam using 2 SATA drives).... guys we just need a free USB port...thats it ??? lemme search on ebay and hen i'll look for it in nehru place!!

19-02-2006, 07:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
grinning_devil Wise Old Owl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Side Crater, Mars Posts: 1,038	okk....ebay doesnt have any ... what will be the expected price ??? under 1 k ??? and recommended manufacturer ??

19-02-2006, 07:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
amitsaudy Alpha Geek Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 525	Buy only a branded one. TRANSCEND

19-02-2006, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
grinning_devil Wise Old Owl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Side Crater, Mars Posts: 1,038	any online shop i can buy frm... bcoz i think locating a branded casing in nehru place will be a lil difficult.... nd ofcourse the price..

20-02-2006, 11:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
grinning_devil Wise Old Owl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Side Crater, Mars Posts: 1,038	@ashu888ashu888,check out this link... have lots of cases... http://www.npithub.com/product/pt_view.php?pcatid=1134

23-02-2006, 11:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
rajesh_verma Right Off the Assembly Line Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 19	amit u r right i had another 80gb hdd from which i m booting Thanks everyone for nice suggestion

23-02-2006, 05:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
grinning_devil Wise Old Owl Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Side Crater, Mars Posts: 1,038	purchased a local brand...(gemini) USB2.0 External HDD Casing.... working like a charm!! costed me 400bucks...cheap na ??

23-02-2006, 06:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
susk21 Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 79	are yaar!!!! i bought it for 700/- RS. KAY PHATAPHAT PRICE KAM HOTA HAI!!!!! I am wondering about the prices after this budget!!

25-02-2006, 02:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
mayurs85 Right Off the Assembly Line Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	Dude tat is all True salla Budget mein kya hoga God Only Knows. BTW 4m Where did u get d DVD yaar v v Cheap i get Mosarbaer for 20 Bucks /DVD. Mulund really Sucks

25-02-2006, 09:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ankur Gupta Wandering in time... Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Delhi,India Posts: 1,293	Well grinning_devil is right on the money!!!! he has qouted the prices of np perfeclty right. moser for 20/- sprint-15/- unbranded-10/-

25-02-2006, 09:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
susk21 Apprentice Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 79	"how to make a internal hdd external hdd" Its going off topic guys.Dont post for DVD costs.

27-02-2006, 01:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
kanak Right Off the Assembly Line Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4	ok is it better to buy a 5.25" enclosure (as it has a fan), and use a mount to keep the 3.5" drive secure in it OR to buy a 3.5" enclosure (no fan) @ashu Regarding the difference in speed, there is definitely a latency involved, but it isn't noticable if you use USB 2.0. If on the other hand if you use USB 1.1, then your transfers are gonna take forever

27-02-2006, 11:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
Eazy Broken In Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 135	I have 3 USB2 cases (2 x 3.5" and 1 x 2.5") and 2 USB2IDE cables and I have found the Vantec cases the BEST - the Vantec 3.5" case cost me 2500/- ... I think it is worth it to get this case. The other 3.5" case I have is the BAFO which does not recognise HDDs larger than 127GB. Regarding speeds..... when I have my 2 HDDs conntected to the computers Controller I get a data transfer speed of around 48mb/s when I move one of these 2 HDDs to a USB2 case the data transfer speed comes down to 24mb/s The USB2 2.5" case with a Seagate 20GB 5400RPM HDD gives me 11mb/s This same Seagate 2.5" HDD when connected to the USB2IDE cable gives me 18mb/s The Techcom USB2IDE cable is not good. The one to buy is... http://www.dansdata.com/rdriver.htm I got one of these from Lamington Road for 650/- 6 months back - I heard it is a bit cheaper now. The advantage of this cable is that it takes 2.5" and 3.5" HDDs as well as Optical drives and writers.

23-03-2006, 12:22 AM	#22 (permalink)
yogi7272 Wise Old Owl Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: vashi, navi mumbai Posts: 1,175	hey easy , i got " R DRIVER I " today .. which supports 3.5'' inch hdd and cd/dvd rom drives ... but has no support for 2.5'' inch .. for 375 rs from road side vendor at lamington road .. now it is working very well with hdds but i am having no luck with odd drives .. could u pls help me in this regard .. what should be the jumper settings for odd drives .. master . slave or cable select ? pls help ..

23-03-2006, 03:04 AM	#23 (permalink)
adityaksharma Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lucknow Posts: 75	there arent any speed issues..... i use the same funda the 700 unbranded HD casing its usb 2 and it works jus fine and ..... all my games run frm tht hd and there are no performance issues so i dont think tht is too much of a bother

24-03-2006, 01:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
Eazy Broken In Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 135	I have 3 USB cases and 2 USBtoIDE cables and have never needed to install any drivers for XP. Even the Win98SE which runs on a HDD in a USB case did not require me to load any drivers. Which OS do you use ? You should run XP with SP2 and there should ne no problem with the external USB drives. In XP you have to format the drive to get it to show in Windows Explorer - format the HDD from Disk Management of XP. Control Panel / Admin Tools / Comp Management / Storage / Disk Management HDD in a USB case should always be set as a Master drive.

24-03-2006, 08:15 PM	#29 (permalink)
yogi7272 Wise Old Owl Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: vashi, navi mumbai Posts: 1,175	HEY EAZY BUDDY , have u tries odd drives with these usb to ide cables ..? then which drives u have successfully used . i mean which brand drives ?

02-04-2006, 05:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
sabman Right Off the Assembly Line Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21	With hard drives connected in casings, can i use them for long hours like normal hdd ? what are it's advantages and disadvantages over an external hard drive?