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Old 02-04-2011, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a Dell Vostro 1510 laptop which I am using extremely since couple of weeks (mostly for downloading), it is always plugged in and running mostly.

I was just wondering how much impact its going to have on the laptop life. I make sure it screen is off and lid is closed also I had recently configured 'maximum processor state' under advance power settings to 20% it has significantly reduced the fan speed and thus the temperature.

Is there anything else that can be done to make sure my laptop doesn't heat up exceedingly?
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Keep laptop in an AC room to keep it cooled.
Clean the side vents.

Disable uneccesary programs.
Keep lappy slightky tilted with the vent side in elevation
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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OK. I am not sure at what temperature my laptop is running, what software should I use? I dont have a AC, what about cooling pads do they work? I have heard they dont make any considerable difference.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Use these-- links---
Open Hardware Monitor | CPU Temperature, Fan Speed, Voltages, Clocks and More

Real Temp - CPU temperature monitoring


Please post sceen shots of temparatures
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Open hardware monitor was showing 5-9 units lower temperature.

Heavy load (encoding video)-


Idle for 5 minutes-
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Stop using the laptop....98c will FRY your proccy!!!!!!!!!!


YOu will be destroyed,..


Dont do heavy stuff now
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I guess I should not encode videos on my laptop, temperature are fine when idle so its ok to keep it running idle for long hrs?
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Do it. If using windows 7, set it at Power saving mode. I am keeping same at room temp and no issues.

BTW, no power cut at your end ?
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I guess I should not encode videos on my laptop, temperature are fine when idle so its ok to keep it running idle for long hrs?

No man. They are way too high as well. They should be the temparatures when running under load.

I reccomend to clean your laptop or atleast get it to servicing problem and ask them to clean it.
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I was just wondering how much impact its going to have on the laptop life.
No effect on Hardware..only u have to change the battery early by default it is 3yrs
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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OK, I just configured 'Max processor state' and made it 50% and now the temperature didn't exceed 60 C ever.

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Do it. If using windows 7, set it at Power saving mode. I am keeping same at room temp and no issues.
BTW, no power cut at your end ?
Yes I live in Uttrakhand power cut is not a issue here.

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No man. They are way too high as well. They should be the temparatures when running under load.
I reccomend to clean your laptop or atleast get it to servicing problem and ask them to clean it.
Is 60 C hot?

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No effect on Hardware..only u have to change the battery early by default it is 3yrs
But its not running on battery, I always keep it plugged in how is it affecting the battery life?

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Stop using the laptop....98c will FRY your proccy!!!!!!!!!!


YOu will be destroyed,..


Dont do heavy stuff now
No it won't. been running over 100c for 2 years 16hrs a day.
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But its not running on battery, I always keep it plugged in how is it affecting the battery life?
u mean to say u have removed the battery & directly running it on AC chord
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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^No battery is there but its always fully charged(100%)
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^No battery is there but its always fully charged(100%)

What kind of battery life you get? Probably very bad.
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No it won't. been running over 100c for 2 years 16hrs a day.
Well, it won't affect you right now. But it reduces life of proccy and GPU. Can you keep a laptop running at 100c on your lap? Don't think so.

Most laptop suffer from overheating due to lack of cooling. But laptop GPU's anc CPU are designed in such a way that they can withstand higher tepratures.

Laptops can run upto 70c. But 90c and 100c is way too high.
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my laptop battery died after 1 year..now using without battery.

Running lappy without battery is like having sex without condom you never know when a small mistake (power cut) will cost you a failure in HDD
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What kind of battery life you get? Probably very bad.
Yes I do get poor battery life it hardly exceeds 1hr (minimum display brightness and browsing web). What should I do stop this degradation in battery life? Cant I tell windows to directly run via AC and not charge battery without removing it?

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Running lappy without battery is like having sex without condom you never know when a small mistake (power cut) will cost you a failure in HDD
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my laptop battery died after 1 year..now using without battery.

Running lappy without battery is like having sex without condom you never know when a small mistake (power cut) will cost you a failure in HDD
in dat case use UPS
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What should I do stop this degradation in battery life?

Have a look here- 10 Tips to make your Laptop Battery last longer
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Cant I tell windows to directly run via AC and not charge battery without removing it?
I don't think so
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Open hardware monitor was showing 5-9 units lower temperature.

Heavy load (encoding video)-


Idle for 5 minutes-
In the settings on RealTEMP what is TJMax set to..?
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^All settings were default
TJ max = 100 C
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Then it is running way way to hot. Get a service technician to open the device and clean it out.
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I have removed battery cause I cant find any other way to make it stop charging.
I have reduced the temperatures to 55~60 C by under clocking my CPU,I dont need to go to service centre now. I will have to stop encoding videos on my laptop that was causing extreme heat.

The average temperature in high performance mode never exceeds 70 C (light use).
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I was sick of running laptop in low performance mode, so I finally opened it today to check for dust. And thankfully it was easy, just two screws to open the section where processor, heat-sink and fan were present. There was not much dust near intake fan but the heat-sink was totally blocked with a pile of it! I removed it and everything it fine, now temperature has reduced to ~50 C in battery mode and ~70 C in high performance mode. I tried stressing the CPU and it reached ~80 C which is fine, is it?
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Yeah 80c is just about fine for laptop.
Good job in opening and cleaning it.
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When downloading, keep the lid open. Vostro 1410/1510 have bad cooling (especially around the HDD which frequently reaches 45+ C) which might affect its long term reliability.

Also, run HWMonitor and post the wear level of the battery, that backup time is way less. My 1410 used to give me ~ 3.5 hours backup when browsing the web
(When did you buy the laptop BTW ?)
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After reading the above I have a question, I was planning to buy a Notebook only for downloading, so it will be on for about 16 odd hours, so is there any problem if it's on for that long? I won't do anything besides Downloading and some Surfing, so is it ok???
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Yeah 80c is just about fine for laptop.
Good job in opening and cleaning it.
Thanks! I admit it was scary though, I have heard HP/Compaq laptop just fall apart when opened thankfully it didn't happened in Vostro.

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When downloading, keep the lid open. Vostro 1410/1510 have bad cooling (especially around the HDD which frequently reaches 45+ C) which might affect its long term reliability.

Also, run HWMonitor and post the wear level of the battery, that backup time is way less. My 1410 used to give me ~ 3.5 hours backup when browsing the web
(When did you buy the laptop BTW ?)
I don't keep the lid open it makes the laptop dusty especially keyboard, I switch to balanced mode when downloading which make temperature drop to ~55 C. Switching to balanced mode reduces my CPU speed to ~800 MHz.

Yes my battery life has degraded drastically, battery wont last more than 1 and 1/2 hr. I ran laptop without it for few days, but it has a downside when light goes laptop shuts even when inverter is present(there is 1-2 sec gap before the backup kicks in). So I started using it again as a UPS .My HDD temperature is 48 C(Max), and my laptop is 2 yrs old.

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After reading the above I have a question, I was planning to buy a Notebook only for downloading, so it will be on for about 16 odd hours, so is there any problem if it's on for that long? I won't do anything besides Downloading and some Surfing, so is it ok???
IMO desktops are better for downloading purposes, unless you really require laptop I would suggest you to go for a desktop.
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follow this undervolting guide, it will increase your battery life and decrease your cpu temperatures by atleast 5 C.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hard...ing-guide.html
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IMO desktops are better for downloading purposes, unless you really require laptop I would suggest you to go for a desktop.
But a Desktop consumes much more power than a Laptop, right?
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