New rig .. Please help ..

[vizkid2005]

Hello everyone ...

I am planning to build a new rig ...

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Programming, Gaming, 3ds max, Internet, Downloading,Watching Movies ........

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A:Yes ...

3. What is your MAX budget?
A:60 k ..

4. Planning to overclock?
A: Not in near future but maybe after a year ...

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: 500 gb

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
A: I have a monitor , don`t need one ...

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 5

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: I have disassmebled n assembled my current rig ...
I think I can pull it off ... But my dad will want to get it done by an assembler ..
So ... The Assembler will do it ...


10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: Around 15th september ...

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: Yes very much ... NO processor or mobo upgrades till next 4 yrs .. only graphics card updates ...
mobo should be SLI/CrossfireX ready ...

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, dvd writer ... I hav all these ...

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: I live in Mumbai ... I won`t be buying from other cities ...

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: Please answer my question below ....


Is it the motherboard or the graphics card that determines quality of gameplay ???
I mean ... Is an average mobo with a decent processor and a great graphics card better than a great mobo with great processor and an average/below average graphics card ????

[Jaskanwar Singh]

which monitor you are having??
whats the resolution you want to run??

[vizkid2005]

I have a Viewsonic VA712 lcd ...
I am used to 1280 X 1024 resolution for windows ...

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Core i7 950 @ 13.8k (get it next month after price drop)
MSI X58 Pro-E @ 10.8k
Gskill 6GB 1600 DDR3 Trident Kit @ 8.1k
Zotac GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 @ 14k
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB @ 2.7k
LG H55N DVD @ 1k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
Cooler Master Elite 430 @ 2.6k


Total - 57.7k

when will you upgrade the monitor??? because gtx460 will become overkill for that 17 incher.

[rajan1311]

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

when will you upgrade the monitor??? because gtx460 will become overkill for that 17 incher.

not if he maxes out physx

(kidding bro)

[vizkid2005]

Thank You sir ...
Thanks alot for your suggestion ...

But 1 thing I have to ask ...
Is MSI a reliable company ???
Isn`t there a ASUS mobo in sync with X58 pro E ???

I have never used MSI before ...
And also is there any service center in Mumbai (god forbid ... if anything goes wrong ) ???

[Cilus]

Very good suggestion Jaskanwar. One suggestion from my side, you can also go for a ATI Radeon HD 5850 based card. VTX3D HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.2k is a very good card at a gr8 price.
And as Jaskanwar mentioned, the Graphics card is really a overkill for your monitor. Get a good Monitor like Benq 22" one @ 7.4k.

[vizkid2005]

Originally Posted by rajan1311

not if he maxes out physx

(kidding bro)

Wats maxing out physx ???

I don`t know ... I`m a noob ...

[rajan1311]

^google it my friend, in short, makes game physics feel more real, which is true (IMO) as i used it in mafia 2.

MSI Pro E is a very good VFM board, many have it, MSI service is also decent, I know a few who have had some issues, but they are trying to make it better. It would be nice if more members could talk about MSI's service.

[vizkid2005]

@ everyone ...
Can I plz be suggested an AMD based config ??
What (AMD or Intel ) will be better n more futureproof( ie : No mobo and procy update for 4 years ) ????
What do u suggest ???

[Jaskanwar Singh]

950 will last longer. it performs better than its AMD counterpart at the same price.

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MSI is a good brand. avoid Asus at all cost.

[funkysourav]

instead of GTX460 i will recommend
MSI HD5850 Twin frozr II edition for 15.8k(dunno exact price)

go for I7 950 without any single doubt

[Jaskanwar Singh]

i would say gtx460 because it gives better tessellation and physx at lower price and performs same.

[vizkid2005]

Yeah !!
Wats the point !!!
Even if Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge has some new "revolutionary" technology ... Makes no difference to me ...
I ain't some hardcore overclocker ...
If need be I`ll add another graphics card or increase my RAM ...

Wat say ?!!?

[Sam]

turn PhysX on & tessellation too, & see the card come to a crawl. best is to turn both of these options off. than HD5850 is faster than GTX460. with the added price, the performance is worth.

[Piyush]

i'll too recommend OP 5850 if budget allows
if not , 460 is the second best option we have now

[vizkid2005]

Originally Posted by vizkid2005

Yeah !!
Wats the point !!!
Even if Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge has some new "revolutionary" technology ... Makes no difference to me ...
I ain't some hardcore overclocker ...
If need be I`ll add another graphics card or increase my RAM ...

Wat say ?!!?

Wat do you guys think ???
Am I right or no ???

[Piyush]

if its that way
then good for you
thats called smart shopping

[Sam]

OP will be known as Smart Customer. never think of over futureproof when buying PC (futureproof for 3-5yrs with limited budget) & also never be a fanboy. this gives lot of pain in the @$$ later.

[vizkid2005]

Guys plz suggest a good Cabinet for me ...

What I want is :

Fans on top ...
1 fan at the rear ...
Transparent or window side panel ...
Under 3k ..

Also suggest a good 6 Gb/s hdd and also a 6 gb/s compliant mobo .. Usb 3.0 not neccessary ...

[RaptorX]

^ The Cooler Master Elite 430 might be a perfect match for those requirements

-Window Side Panel
-1 front blue led intake fan
-Costs 2.7k
-Places for fans on top.

Problem is : only 1 fan(blue intake). You'll have to add more yourself.
Peripheral Slot covers are not reusable..unlike the Gamma.
Cable management features are limited (From what I've read in reviews)

See this thread: http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/hard...on-thread.html

I think many members here would also suggest the NZXT gamma as another option.
It costs 2.1-2.2k.
Has options for fans on top.
Comes with one rear exhaust fan.
Slightly better cable management options compared to the Elite 430.
How ever it does not have a side window. Also depends on how it looks to you. Might appeal to some....might be unappealing to others.

Both have black interiors.

Check out some reviews and see which one is better for you.

[ico]

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