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08-07-2010, 12:20 AM
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Some hardware questions.
Had a couple of questions which I could use some help on. One was I'm considering of getting a laptop. Although I am quite concerned about the budget. What I'm looking for is extreme value for money. Im trying to keep my budget at a minimum but if the laptop justifies the cost I won't mind spending on it as well. However I would appreciate the best I could possibly get for the least cost.
Secondly, my cousin happens to be starting a computer store thingie and hes basically taking me along to help him out purchase (I think he just wants me to carry stuff  ) some stuff as well. What components would you say would be the most worthwhile stocking from your experience . Also try to focus on accessories which wont see that much of a change of price in the coming days.
Third need some advice for purchasing another system which pretty much follows the above terms for the laptop. Ill fill in the following template as well .
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1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Basic How Use, Watch a movie or two, Maybe install some Linux OS , code a bit maybe.
2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
Yes
3. What is your MAX budget?
I'm not sure I know how to specify this but as I said earlier cheapest possible with maximum returns .
4. Planning to overclock?
Nope
5. Which OS are you planning to use?
Maybe Windows XP and Linux else just Linux if I do ever get an original copy of WIndowsd & I might give it a whirl on it.
6. How much hard drive space is needed?
The more the merrier. Ive been downloading quite alot ever since I started using Linux so I guess the more space the better.
7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
Erm I haven't really given this much thought . Do 21 inch worthwhile monitors come cheap?
8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
5 .
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Yes I usually put together my stuff.
10. When are you planning to buy the system?
Tomorrow or day after D: .
11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
Definitely the more future proof the better but I think Id rather be a bit more budget conscious considering the purpose of the system.
12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
Nope.
13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
Ill be buying from a store Ive always been getting my stuff from.
14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
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08-07-2010, 09:22 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz @ 5k
Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.2k
2GB DDR3 1333MHz * 2 @ 5.1k
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB *2 @ 4k
LG H55N DVD @ 1k
FSP saga II 350W @ 1.5k
Zebronics Blaze @ 1k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse @ 0.7k
Total - 29.8k
do you want speakers and UPS??
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But i think if you specify your maximum budget it will be easier for us to suggest....
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08-07-2010, 09:36 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
I will go for Intel range of processors instead of AMD. Look out for their new i3 or i5 range.
Also get a entry level graphics card even if you don't plan to play games. Having a graphics card lessens the load of the CPU, especially while watching movies.
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08-07-2010, 09:45 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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I will go for Intel range of processors instead of AMD. Look out for their new i3 or i5 range.
Also get a entry level graphics card even if you don't plan to play games. Having a graphics card lessens the load of the CPU, especially while watching movies.
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i dont know how many times we have argued in this forum that is i3 better or athlon 635. you should check the previous threads
and concerning graphics card the onboard hd4200 is fine for hd content..no bottlenecks..
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08-07-2010, 10:05 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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Bhai english main type karlo, sab ko hindi naheen athee...!
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08-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
My Fluency in Hindi is horrible so Id appreciate a translation if any advice was in it :< .
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do you want speakers and UPS??
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No I'm going to avoid this as I already have a speaker set I can use for this system. As for UPS I have an APC 600 VA I can use with the system as well so you can bypass that  .
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But i think if you specify your maximum budget it will be easier for us to suggest....
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For the system I would think 35 k would be tops perhaps . For the laptop I'm not sure yet  . I just want to get something that doesn't require me to sell a kidney but get the maximum benefit for the cost as well  .
Also any idea on the second question. From experience Ive seen alot of SMPS and Hard Disks fried but I might be wrong.
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I will go for Intel range of processors instead of AMD. Look out for their new i3 or i5 range.
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From my understanding I was thinking that AMD was much more VFM than Intel and if I'm correct i3 and i5 aren't really new processors either are they?
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08-07-2010, 10:42 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
ok asigh...english typing from now on...
this will be sufficient for your needs-
Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz @ 5k
Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.2k
2GB DDR3 1333MHz * 2 @ 5.1k
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB *2 @ 4k
LG H55N DVD @ 1k
FSP saga II 350W @ 1.5k
CM elite 310 @ 1.5k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse @ 0.7k
Total - 30.3k
Last edited by Jaskanwar Singh; 08-07-2010 at 10:54 AM.
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08-07-2010, 10:42 AM
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Who stole my Alpaca!
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Re: Some hardware questions.
Oh I see . Yes indeed that sounds reasonable  .
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08-07-2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
asigh i edited all my posts...i am sorry if that was irritating..
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08-07-2010, 11:02 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
What do you guys think about Acer Laptops? Ive had a good experience from them btu I guess the others have a bad experience after checking the number of threads that say otherwise. Was thinking of the Following Models .
Aspire 5740G
Aspire 5738 Z
Also what about Inspiron 14 R ?
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08-07-2010, 12:19 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh
ok asigh...english typing from now on...
this will be sufficient for your needs-
Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz @ 5k
Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.2k
2GB DDR3 1333MHz * 2 @ 5.1k
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB *2 @ 4k
LG H55N DVD @ 1k
FSP saga II 350W @ 1.5k
CM elite 310 @ 1.5k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse @ 0.7k
Total - 30.3k
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better get 400W PSU from FSP or maybe Corsair (if availability is a problem).
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08-07-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
oh yes i forgot to change the psu to FSP saga II 400W @ 2k
thanks sam..
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08-07-2010, 02:37 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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oh yes i forgot to change the psu to FSP saga II 400W @ 2k
thanks sam..
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welcome buddy. well the config looks good. & is a good one as gaming not on list (IGP & Full HD monitor never mixes well).
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08-07-2010, 07:44 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
yah i know gaming with IGP on a 22" monitor!!just the thought feels bad!!
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08-07-2010, 07:58 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
The damage has been done  . Ive made the purchase for everything but the Biostar motherboard and had to settle for a different one. I made a change for the monitor also. I decided to splurge a bit more and got the 22" Dell one . The 24" was not available for purchase either and coming from a 17" inch display I have got to say that this thing is HUGE.
Also got myself a Dell Inspiron 14 R . Just the plain black laptop . It seems to be nice and it came with Win 7 but it did cost an additional 1.5k I think D: . I believe someone has already done a review of these products at this point so Im not going to do the same . but if anyone has any questions be free to message .
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08-07-2010, 08:09 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
which mobo? congrats dude
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08-07-2010, 09:46 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
I know people might be sad that I bought this but I really didnt have much option I guess. I think it was an Asus 785G -EVO something. On the cover it has something Extreme Edition written if I recall right. I'm too tired to get up and go look. Ill post the correct name tomorrow.
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08-07-2010, 09:55 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
V-evo or M-evo ?
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08-07-2010, 10:04 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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I know people might be sad that I bought this but I really didnt have much option I guess. I think it was an Asus 785G -EVO something. On the cover it has something Extreme Edition written if I recall right. I'm too tired to get up and go look. Ill post the correct name tomorrow.
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i think you brought yourself Asus M4A785TD-V EVO. its Xtreme Design. its just Gigabyte's Ultra Durable 3 + a few other things. labelled the name Xtreme Design. but i have heard a few bad things about this & a few Asus motherboard. ram unable to run in dual channel. the VIA audio unable give proper sound in win7 & yes the heatsink (north bridge) heats up badly. if you face no issues like this, than you on safe side. anyway congrats on the purchase
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08-07-2010, 10:10 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
v-evo score is almost equal to that of m-evo
only some features are different
like crossfire/sli,....
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08-07-2010, 10:15 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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v-evo score is almost equal to that of m-evo
only some features are different
like crossfire/sli,....
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actually M-EVO better buy. problem is its isn't available here.
also AMD = no SLI.
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08-07-2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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actually M-EVO better buy. problem is its isn't available here.
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why???
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also AMD = no SLI.
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ooops 
sry
my mistake
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08-07-2010, 10:56 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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why??? 
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M-EVO is firstly cheap. no Xfire (who needs X16+X4 Xfire? it'll make Xfire snail slow). also the sideport memory is Empadei or some company. it can be OC past 2000Mhz (desktop memory can't match).
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09-07-2010, 09:38 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
never heard of that one.. i mean the company
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09-07-2010, 10:08 PM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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never heard of that one.. i mean the company
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me2 never heard. BTW, V-EVO's sideport memory is from Nanya.
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10-07-2010, 12:15 AM
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Re: Some hardware questions.
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i think you brought yourself Asus M4A785TD-V EVO. its Xtreme Design. its just Gigabyte's Ultra Durable 3 + a few other things. labelled the name Xtreme Design. but i have heard a few bad things about this & a few Asus motherboard. ram unable to run in dual channel. the VIA audio unable give proper sound in win7 & yes the heatsink (north bridge) heats up badly. if you face no issues like this, than you on safe side. anyway congrats on the purchase
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HEhe I forgot to check the cover to get the name and the bill has it misprinted I think. It says
Asus M4A785E-DD-EVO  . Will confirm for sure tomorrow. Installed Windows 7 . My first hands on experience with WIn 7 and I do feel a bit weird but Ill get over it hopefully. The system seems to be running cool so far so hopefully it wont go up in smokes D: .
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