I need help in building a PC for my son (in 10+2) for beginners in animation field.

[ysmonyog]

CPU-i5 750
RAM-4x 2GB Corsair
Monitor- upto Rs. 7500
PSU- at least 550W good brand as per availability in Chandigarh.
Mobo- Intel DP55WB or MSI P55 GD80.
GPU- Unable to decide (can it be 9800GT ?)
If Intel Mobo is sufficient I can spend more on GPU but i want to have MSI mobo as i can OC or SLI if the need arises.
Please give suggestions specially for GPU.

[Sam]

budget please & also whats the exact parts needed?

[ysmonyog]

Budget is 45K Maximum for all parts except printer and speakers. Also gaming is not a priority.

[bobby23]

9800GT is outdated, I think the price of 9800GT is around 5000 (512MB Video Ram)-7000 (1GB)Rs, for the same price you can buy 512MB GTS 250 around 7000Rs. From ATi I have no idea though.
Also when it comes to animation the CPU is more important than graphics card I suggest core i7 930.

[ysmonyog]

i7 will be too costly. I think i5 750, being quad core with turbo boost, will serve the purpose. What is yr suggestion about motherboard with i5 750.
Can you give complete config with i7 with approx prices. I shall make up my mind and try to get computer loan from my employer.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
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2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
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3. What is your MAX budget?
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4. Planning to overclock?
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5. Which OS are you planning to use?
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6. How much hard drive space is needed?
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7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want?
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8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
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9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
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10. When are you planning to buy the system?
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11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
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12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
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13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
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14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
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[bobby23]

Ok here is the config and prices. The price varies from city to city hence just for indication:

1. Core i7-930 Rs.14,000 / Core i5-750 Rs.10,100
2. (for i7) MSI X58 Pro-E Rs.11300 / (both for i3) Intel DP55WG Rs. 8,100 / Asus P7P55-PRO Rs.11,500
3. Corsair 2*2 GB DDR3 Rs. 6400
4. Seagate 500 GB Rs. 1975
5. ATi 5750 1GB Rs. 8500
6. Corsair Power Supply 500W no idea about the price
7. Cabinet your choice

Total around Rs. 42,175 for i7-930 and Rs. 35000 - 39,000 for i3-750 both excluding monitor, psu and cabinet.

[ysmonyog]

Thanks bobby23. I shall go with i7 but still confused over GPU as I do not know much about computers. I think your earlier suggestion for GTS250 was better as in general people do not recommend ATI (except FirePro and FireGL series) for Maya etc. Arena Multimedia personnal here at Chandigarh has also cautioned against ATI. He had suggested quadro FX580 but Autocad Maya website has termed it as not compatible whereas GTS250 has been shown as Tested OK. But at the same time 5750, being dx11, is more future proof and consumes less power too.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

can you please fill the above questionaire so that we can suggest u a good config!

[bobby23]

you can wait for nvidia's DX11 version cards, though not sure when they will come to India.

[mavihs]

@ysmonyog
i would first suggest you to fill up the above questionnaire!
second i would tell you that most of the student, teachers & professionals are starting to using ATI cards as they provide VFM & more performance than NVidia currently at almost all budget level!
Also can you tell me which course you have enrolled your son into & which institute?

[ysmonyog]

1. for my son who will be joining some Degree program in Animation and Multimedia/ Animation Specialist Program with ARENA/ZICA/MAYA. Gaming- Moderate.
2. No idea about possible alternate channels/products.
3. At present Max 45K wihtout UPS, speakers, Mouse, Keyboard, Optical Drive and printer.
4. May be yes, if needed.
5. Any suitable Windows.
6. 500GB at least.
7. No idea but i should be able to run the softwares.
8. Four (4)
9. Yes in 2002 (P4)
10. I need comp (for the purpose stated at ans 1) in March 2011 but my existing comp has crashed beyond repair and I need a PC right now which I want to build keeeping in view the future needs.
11. 3 years at least.
12. AMD -no, but i do not know - why!
13. Chandigarh
14. Nil
So above are the answers. I could not copy/paste the questionnaire to fill in the answers as i do have a PC and have been using my symbian mobile browser for internet.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz @ 9.6k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H @ 4.6k
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium @ 6.8k
MSI HD5770 HAWX 1GB GDDR5 @ 9.6k
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB @ 2.7k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.8k
NZXT GAMMA @ 2k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k

Total - 46.6k

[Sam]

^^ nice one. well i think OP can go with WD Blue to lower prices.

[Vensanga]

+1 for Jaskanwar Singh configuration...but i think he is mentioning that he doesnt like AMD....great configuration for AMD though!!!!! and yes WD Blue will be available for 2k...

[mavihs]

Originally Posted by ysmonyog

12. AMD -no, but i do not know - why!

you should have a reason, you can't dislike anything without any reason!

[ysmonyog]

Thanks Jaskanwar Singh for the config and all of you for the opinions.
Will there be any heating issue? If yes, pl give some cooling solution also. How much power it will consume under normal use?
ps. I said no to AMD because generally this is not recommended for 3D and Animation.

[mavihs]

Originally Posted by ysmonyog

ps. I said no to AMD because generally this is not recommended for 3D and Animation.

are you kidding me, most of the ppl are recommending AMD these days, specially thuban(AMD 6 core proccy) as its really good for rendering purpose!

[max_demon]

And yeah mordern Operating Systems make use of Graphics Performance for general day to day processing usage too like video transcoding, compiling, rendering etc etc .. correct me if i am wrong

[bkarankar]

I7 930 is good one

[ysmonyog]

i7 930 @14K
Motherboard ??
GTS 250 @ 7K
Corsair 4 GB DDR3 1600 @ 6.8K
WD Blue 500 GB @ 2K
Corsair 550W @ 4.7K
Case (as per availability) @2.5K
KB, Mouse, Case, Monitor, UPS - I shall use existing.
I have finalized the above (though over budget) and searching for Mobo which can be OC automatically with minimum user interferance like in MSI P55GD80.
Thanks everybody for suggestions.

[bkarankar]

Originally Posted by mavihs

are you kidding me, most of the ppl are recommending AMD these days, specially thuban(AMD 6 core proccy) as its really good for rendering purpose!

hey,

AMD X6 1090T is must Faster then Intel Core i7 i930.

I was using my i7 930 but my brother's new system is AMD X6 1090T. Its must faster and i am trying to exchange my system with my brother.

go for AMD.

Its really good. worth money and unbelievable performance.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

wait
x6 is faster in rendering and animation and all
core i7 930 rocks in gaming, x6 cant beat that in gaming

[Sam]

^^ yes true. ok look here:

i7 930: fast. its damn fast. cost around 14k (X6 is same). mobo minimum cost is 10K+. can be OC to extreme level.

X6 1090T: a bit slower than i7 930. beats i7 930 in threaded apps. looses badly in single threaded apps. can be OC in stock cooler to 3.8Ghz safely. but its biggest point is it can be used in even a 3k mobo without affecting performance.

so OP should decide accordingly.

but my suggestion is go for X6 1055T. its cost below 10k & at 2.8Ghz. it is fast. its little slower than X6 1090T but spending over 4k just to get 400Mhz extra. 1055T makes a lot of sense. get 1090T if you can afford.

[ico]

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz @ 9.6k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H @ 4.6k
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium @ 6.8k
MSI HD5770 HAWX 1GB GDDR5 @ 9.6k
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB @ 2.7k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.8k
NZXT GAMMA @ 2k
BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 7.5k

Total - 46.6k

I'd recommend this. This config is perfectly balanced for your son's work.

[bkarankar]

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

wait
x6 is faster in rendering and animation and all
core i7 930 rocks in gaming, x6 cant beat that in gaming

we tried this with GTA 4, and found X6 is much faster

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yes, its great

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Originally Posted by ico

I'd recommend this. This config is perfectly balanced for your son's work.

yes, its great

[ysmonyog]

benchmark results at anandtech.com show even i5 750 competes with 1055T. More Wins than Loses and that too with marginal differences. There is, however, no test result for i7 930.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

it sometimes depends on which game you are playing....does it stress the gpu more, does it uses more cores efficiently, does it prefer clock speed more and many other things.....overall i7 930 is meant for gaming...

[bobby23]

Since your son is into moderate Gaming AMD phenom II x6 1055T or 1090T is sufficient, the 1090T is just few frames below i7-930 in most of the games, and 1055T will without doubt run all the games and future games and performance even though below 1090T is a balanced buy for animation and gaming.

[ysmonyog]

Bobby23 do you think Jaskanwar Singh's config will be better than yours for my purpose?