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Old 25-06-2010, 11:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1. What is the purpose of the computer?
Gaming

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
Yes

3. What is your MAX budget?
40K

4. Planning to overclock?
No

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Ubuntu 10.04LTS

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
500GB would do

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen?
20"@1600x900

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10?
6

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Assembler

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
In less than 2 Weeks

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
Maybe

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig?
NO, i want everything from scratch

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
Will buy from Kolkata or Asansole
i live in West Bengal

14: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement
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CPU - Amd Phenom II x2 555be
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AMD Athlon II X4 635
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AMD Athlon II X3 440

open to Intel Core I3

Motherboard -Gigabyte MA-785GMT-US2H

GPU - HD 5770(preferably powercolor)

RAM - 4GB(2*2) 1333MHz Kingston DDRIII RAM

HDD - 500 GB WD Blue

Monitor-20" DELL S2009W

Cabinet - CM Elite 310

PSU/SMPS - Corsair CX400
(not really sure about this ,the CORSAIR PSU CALCULATOR recommends this , but the HD5770 system requirements say it needs at least a 450w psu)

Key Board+Mouse - Logitech SET - Optical Blk Mouse+ MMKB

ODD - L.G. GH22NS50 OEM SATA DVD-Writer

Speakers - Altec Lansing 2.1 BXR1121
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Old 25-06-2010, 11:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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CPU - Amd Phenom II x2 555be
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AMD Athlon II X4 635
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AMD Athlon II X3 440

open to Intel Core I3

Motherboard -Gigabyte MA-785GMT-US2H

GPU - HD 5770(preferably powercolor)

RAM - 4GB(2*2) 1333MHz Kingston DDRIII RAM

HDD - 500 GB WD Blue

Monitor-20" DELL S2009W

Cabinet - CM Elite 310

PSU/SMPS - Corsair CX400
(not really sure about this ,the CORSAIR PSU CALCULATOR recommends this , but the HD5770 system requirements say it needs at least a 450w psu)


Key Board+Mouse - Logitech SET - Optical Blk Mouse+ MMKB

ODD - L.G. GH22NS50 OEM SATA DVD-Writer

Speakers - Altec Lansing 2.1 BXR1121
change the bold marked items:

1. check price diff between X4 630 & 635. if you need pay more than 200 bucks for 635, skip it.

2, try MSI HAWX. i not sure but you may find it. currently Kolkata market full with XFX cards.

3. get FSP Saga II 500W or Corsair VX450W. be safe. just pay little more & get a 450-500W PSU from good brand than settling for a 400W unit.
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change the bold marked items:


3. get FSP Saga II 500W or Corsair VX450W. be safe. just pay little more & get a 450-500W PSU from good brand than settling for a 400W unit.
is fsp a good company?
i have been recommended FSP SAGA II 500w psu @2.8k
link provided here(http://www.theitwares.com/saga-500w-pow ... p-808.html)
is it a good choice?
i am looking for the safety and durability of my pc for 4 years at least
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yes fsp saga 2 series is a great psu series.
it offers 80%+ efficiency at extremely great price.
moreover its quiet and is definitely better than local psus
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When i am not gaming@10hrs/day ,
i will be using my pc as a download rig@12hrs/day

is there any way to switch graphics
i.e. i want to switch between my precious hd 5770 discrete(when gaming) and the motherboard's hd4200 igp(when downloading)
that way my power consumption is low and there is not too much pressure on the 5770

Is there any way to do this?
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Old 26-06-2010, 10:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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is there any way to switch graphics
i.e. i want to switch between my precious hd 5770 discrete(when gaming) and the motherboard's hd4200 igp(when downloading)
that way my power consumption is low and there is not too much pressure on the 5770

Is there any way to do this?
u have 2 read the mobo manual...for this the mobo supports hybrid crossfire...
but i dnt know abt 5XXX cards....

this 5770 is selling like hot cake i think....it reminds me the era of GEForce 8800GT
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yes fsp saga 2 series is a great psu series.
it offers 80%+ efficiency at extremely great price.
moreover its quiet and is definitely better than local psus
not 80%+ but competitive with Corsair whose PSUs are 80%+. moreover at that price you can't complain. just warranty little low @ 2-3yrs.

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When i am not gaming@10hrs/day ,
i will be using my pc as a download rig@12hrs/day

is there any way to switch graphics
i.e. i want to switch between my precious hd 5770 discrete(when gaming) and the motherboard's hd4200 igp(when downloading)
that way my power consumption is low and there is not too much pressure on the 5770

Is there any way to do this?
why you need? HD4200 will be off. & at idle the ATI 5 series cards consume same power as an IGP. so? no tension about huge bills

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u have 2 read the mobo manual...for this the mobo supports hybrid crossfire...
but i dnt know abt 5XXX cards....

this 5770 is selling like hot cake i think....it reminds me the era of GEForce 8800GT
Hybrid cossfire = IGP + discrete card. not discrete card off & IGP on. its Nvidia Optimus tech

yup. HD5770 can be mentioned as best budget performance card in a long time. you not only get performance but it runs so cool. but special mention to MSI HAWX. priced at 9.6k currently. makes all other HD5770 seem useless.
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. HD5770 can be mentioned as best budget performance card in a long time. you not only get performance but it runs so cool. but special mention to MSI HAWX. priced at 9.6k currently. makes all other HD5770 seem useless.


actually its not about power consumption as it is about temperature
i herad in several forums that the MSI HAWX tends to get too hot...
(Hotter than ANGELINA JOLIE actually)
i.e 50c@idle and 85-90c@load

i just hope that my rig doesn't go poof all of a sudden

43k is a hell lot of money
i actually feel guilty spending so much on gaming rig
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actually its not about power consumption as it is about temperature
i herad in several forums that the MSI HAWX tends to get too hot...
(Hotter than ANGELINA JOLIE actually)
i.e 50c@idle and 85-90c@load

i just hope that my rig doesn't go poof all of a sudden

43k is a hell lot of money
i actually feel guilty spending so much on gaming rig
its cause they card makes the stay in the case. simply add 1 side intake & 1 back exhaust. and temperature problem will be solved

about the 43k pricing, just think spending 39k & in the end you unsatisfied by the performance. you end up loosing the game even before you start it. simple advice: pay good price, get good items. don't take the "save little" route & end up with a bad underpowered rig. cause once bought you can't go back to the original. its wasted.
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Old 26-06-2010, 12:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i have been recommend a BIOSTAR TA785G3 is it a good board?
anyone has any experience about it?
is the rep of the brand good?
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43k is a hell lot of money
i actually feel guilty spending so much on gaming rig
dude u can check my siggy bought recently @41k....& im not feeling any guilt
int it
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i have been recommend a BIOSTAR TA785G3 is it a good board?
anyone has any experience about it?
is the rep of the brand good?
if its G3 only, avoid it. not very good. go for the G3 HD. a very good board. absolute VFM
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When i am not gaming@10hrs/day ,
i will be using my pc as a download rig@12hrs/day

is there any way to switch graphics
i.e. i want to switch between my precious hd 5770 discrete(when gaming) and the motherboard's hd4200 igp(when downloading)
that way my power consumption is low and there is not too much pressure on the 5770

Is there any way to do this?
Sorry to say..this is the dumbest thing I have heard in recent times.You cant even install 2 display adaptors at the same time.Your graphic card will be in idle mode when you are downloading.Even the proccy is close to idle mode.So power consumption will be less.My 5670 is at 47C while downloading.

Biostar surely isnt a topclass brand but they offer good VFM boards

Biostar TA785G3 has only 2 DDR3 slots so just avoid it.TA785G3 A3 isnt a mATX board so it has 3 PCI slots but no 140W processor support so less future proof.

I have TA785G3 HD. Its a VFM board having 4 DDR3 slots,140W proccy support,Onboard 128 MB DDR3 side port memory etc..
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dude u can check my siggy bought recently @41k....& im not feeling any guilt
int it
is it 41k including the monitor ,keyboard mouse & speakers?
if yes, i want to know where did you buy it from?

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Sorry to say..this is the dumbest thing I have heard in recent times.You cant even install 2 display adaptors at the same time.Your graphic card will be in idle mode when you are downloading.Even the proccy is close to idle mode.So power consumption will be less.My 5670 is at 47C while downloading.

Biostar surely isnt a topclass brand but they offer good VFM boards

Biostar TA785G3 has only 2 DDR3 slots so just avoid it.TA785G3 A3 isnt a mATX board so it has 3 PCI slots but no 140W processor support so less future proof.

I have TA785G3 HD. Its a VFM board having 4 DDR3 slots,140W proccy support,Onboard 128 MB DDR3 side port memory etc..
actually i want to be sure my 5770 wont die on me when i use my pc as a downloading rig continuously @12hrs/day
i know the idle temp is 47
but what if it becomes 80 after 12hrs of continuous idling?

forgive me if it sounds stupid

but i am a total noob
i guess i am being a little cautious
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not 80%+ but competitive with Corsair whose PSUs are 80%+. moreover at that price you can't complain. just warranty little low @ 2-3yrs.
dude see this

it is 80% efficient.
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i know the idle temp is 47
but what if it becomes 80 after 12hrs of continuous idling?
This is another dumb thing..your graphic card wont be heated in idle mode for a long period of time as it doesnt process anything.

I am in BSNL UL 750 plan.Now its one week my PC running continously with out turning off.
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guys please suggest a good smps under 3k for this pc:


Athlon II X3 II X3 - 440 - 3875
Biostar TA785G3 - 4000
Kingston/Transcend DDr3 1333MHz 4GB -5100
Seagate 500GB -2050
MSI 5770 Hawk 9600
Corsair VX 450 - 3800
NZXT Gamma - 2200
Samsung 2030 - 6850
KB & Mouse - 750
DVD RW - 1100
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FSP Saga II 500W @ Rs 2800
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guys please suggest a good smps under 3k for this pc:


Athlon II X3 440 - 3875
Biostar TA785G3 - 4000
Kingston/Transcend DDr3 1333MHz 4GB -5100
Seagate 500GB -2050
MSI 5770 Hawk 9600
Corsair VX 450 - 3800
NZXT Gamma - 2200
Samsung 2030 - 6850
KB & Mouse - 750
DVD RW - 1100
but you have already the smps included it in your config. anyways no need to spend that much. get what pulsar suggested.

change MOBO to Biostar TA785G3 HD

get athlon 2 x4 630 if you can.
you can go with cm elite 310 @ 1.6k to save some money.
what about BENQ 22" MONITOR @ 7.5k
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guys please suggest a good smps under 3k for this pc:


Athlon II X3 II X3 - 440 - 3875
Biostar TA785G3 - 4000
Kingston/Transcend DDr3 1333MHz 4GB -5100
Seagate 500GB -2050
MSI 5770 Hawk 9600
Corsair VX 450 - 3800
NZXT Gamma - 2200
Samsung 2030 - 6850
KB & Mouse - 750
DVD RW - 1100
OOPS!!!
MY BAD!!!
I meant UPS Not SMPS :C_emb:
SORRY!!!!!

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but you have already the smps included it in your config. anyways no need to spend that much. get what pulsar suggested.

change MOBO to Biostar TA785G3 HD

get athlon 2 x4 630 if you can.
you can go with cm elite 310 @ 1.6k to save some money.
what about BENQ 22" MONITOR @ 7.5k
i heard that CM ELITE 310 doesn't have good airflow
thats why i chose NZXT GAmma
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change that mobo to biostar ta785g3 hd @ 4200.
consider athlon 2 x4 630 @ 4.7k and benq 22' monitor also.

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you want need a corsair 450w, get fsp saga 2 500w to save some money.

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there are people in this forum using cm elite 310. they never complained about airflow though.
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yes CM Elite 310 has limited airflow. NZXT Gamma is good cabinet.

Go for Gigabyte 785 board @ 4.5K

UPS you need APC 800VA.
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thanks for the info pulsar
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yes CM Elite 310 has limited airflow. NZXT Gamma is good cabinet.

Go for Gigabyte 785 board @ 4.5K

UPS you need APC 800VA.
could you please give me the link and price to apc 800va?
which model is the gigabyte board?link please
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gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-US2H @ 4.6k
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could you please give me the link and price to apc 800va?
which model is the gigabyte board?link please
APC 800VA is Rs 3K as per deltapage.com

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OOPS!!!
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I meant UPS Not SMPS :C_emb:
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take APC 650VA. enough for your PC to give 5-10min backup.

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i heard that CM ELITE 310 doesn't have good airflow
thats why i chose NZXT GAmma
with just 1 fan, even CM 690 will have limited airflow. just fit in 2 intake & 1 exhaust fan. also gamma cost 2k+. enough to include 1 more fan.

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APC 800VA under 3k? where?
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price and link for apc 650va please

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regarding the VA of the UPS. I am using a INTEX 600VA UPS with new battery and connected only the CPU to it, it is not going backup when gaming, i mean when gaming if there is powercut, pc shuts down.

APC 650VA UPS can provide 400W of power just do some calculations and see what the load power usage of your PC
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