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Old 12-06-2010, 08:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to upgrade my system to the max gaming oriented possibility. What would you suggest, if I had not to change the following
*650 W PSU cooler master(xtreme series)
*9800 GTX NVidia
*Cooler master cab(CM590)

The budget is about 50K

I want a new processor, ram, motherboard. And change PSU if needed

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Old 12-06-2010, 09:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what parts you want. please specify clearly.
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Old 13-06-2010, 02:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Can you fill the below questionnaire so we can suggest you a good config!
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1. What is your MAX budget?
2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
3. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
4. Planning to overclock?
5. Which OS are you planning to use?
6. How much hard drive space is needed?
7. What resolution will the screen run at?
8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
10. When are you planning to buy the system?
11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
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Old 13-06-2010, 09:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hey Mavhis,
These are the answers to your question

1. Max budget is 50,000
2. I am open to all ideas.
3. Multimedia and gaming
4. If needed
5. I will be using XP sp3 proffesional
6. I already have a 1 TB barracuda
7. 1600*1200
8. I would give myself 8,
9. I have always build and assembled my PC's myself, just need the advice on which products to asseble
10. In a month's time
11. yes
12. As asked I just want a processor (i series), 6-8gb DDR3 rams and motherboard which could handle SLI and have USB 3. And advise change for PSU if required No sound card requierd.
13. I live in delhi, and want to buy stuff from nehru place.
14. I have given you all I need.
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Old 13-06-2010, 09:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i would recommend this -

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium @ 6.8k (more than enough)
Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k (better than 9800 gtx)
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k

total - 52k

which monitor do you have??

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Old 14-06-2010, 02:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i have a LG flatron 1943C
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then in my opinion the above rig will be a good one
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Old 15-06-2010, 03:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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i would recommend this -

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium @ 6.8k (more than enough)
Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 @ 15.8k (better than 9800 gtx)
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k

total - 52k
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only problem is that u want be getting usb3!!!!!
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Old 15-06-2010, 11:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I am already using a core 2duo, with 4 GB ram on an asus board, so no need to hurry, I can wait for couple of months, but want a usb3 compatible motherboard only

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hi sam,
Sorry for the late reply.
I want a new processor, motherboard,ram and PSU if required
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Old 15-06-2010, 02:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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YOU CAN FOR FOR GIGABYTE X58 UD3R / UD7 / UD9 DEPENDING ON UR BUDJET.
THESE MBs COME WITH USB3.0.

I WOULD SUGGEST GO FOR X58AUD7/R.
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Old 15-06-2010, 09:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am already using a core 2duo, with 4 GB ram on an asus board, so no need to hurry, I can wait for couple of months, but want a usb3 compatible motherboard only
any specific reason you want to go for USB3?
if you want USB3 in this amount then you can go for an AMD setup. just that it'll give you a little less performance than this but you can cover that up by OCing!
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Old 15-06-2010, 11:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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if hes not gonna use sli he can go with lynnfield with a single gpu.
gigabyte has few 1156 mobos with usb 3.0.

though his upgrade will be limited to 860s, 870, 870s, 875k, and 880.
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if hes not gonna use sli he can go with lynnfield with a single gpu.
gigabyte has few 1156 mobos with usb 3.0.

though his upgrade will be limited to 860s, 870, 870s, 875k, and 880.
that won't be a good option as 1156 will come to its EOL starting next year!
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Old 15-06-2010, 11:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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sandy bridges to have lga-1155 and 2011. even bloomfield phases out q3 2011.
wont waiting be good for q1 sandy bridges?
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sandy bridges to have lga-1155 and 2011. even bloomfield phases out q3 2011.
wont waiting be good for q1 sandy bridges?
its still 1yr+ for Bloomfield to be taken over by the new architecture (32nm). so its pretty safe.

for the H55/H57/Q57 its not so safe. i not sure but Intel going to release i5 760 later this year. its going to be a LGA1156 socket processor. what i want say is, why Intel releasing a processor for a platform thats almost EOL. for system upgraders? maybe. but till now not even a single processor been announced (names only) for the upcoming LGA1155. i am kinda suspicious
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Old 17-06-2010, 02:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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abhi intel potato chips kha raha hai sandy chips february ke baad banayega

ya if you see it that way bloomfield is the only desicion to take.
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its still 1yr+ for Bloomfield to be taken over by the new architecture (32nm). so its pretty safe.

for the H55/H57/Q57 its not so safe. i not sure but Intel going to release i5 760 later this year. its going to be a LGA1156 socket processor. what i want say is, why Intel releasing a processor for a platform thats almost EOL. for system upgraders? maybe. but till now not even a single processor been announced (names only) for the upcoming LGA1155. i am kinda suspicious

I am really confused, on the processors. my friend said that i should buy a AMD phenom X6, that will do my job, and it is cheap. And I want to know if new proc's are coming than how will they effect the current market and how much the price can dip.
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abhi intel potato chips kha raha hai sandy chips february ke baad banayega

ya if you see it that way bloomfield is the only desicion to take.


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I am really confused, on the processors. my friend said that i should buy a AMD phenom X6, that will do my job, and it is cheap. And I want to know if new proc's are coming than how will they effect the current market and how much the price can dip.
i7 930 better in games than X6 1090T. you can do 1 thing. get a 1055T & OC it to 3.2Ghz & it'll excel in gaming too :-P
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if you can OC then go for AMD, will give your more performance & better VFM.
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if you can OC then go for AMD, will give your more performance & better VFM.
now i am against this. ocing i7 930 will also release great results.
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now i am against this. ocing i7 930 will also release great results.
AMD 1090T is easier to do on stock HSF!
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I am really confused, on the processors. my friend said that i should buy a AMD phenom X6, that will do my job, and it is cheap. And I want to know if new proc's are coming than how will they effect the current market and how much the price can dip.
get x6 and OC it
it will run like hell
also you'll get more options regarding motherboards
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AMD 1090T is easier to do on stock HSF!
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get x6 and OC it
it will run like hell
also you'll get more options regarding motherboards
actually both of you are not fully correct. 1090T runs at 3.2Ghz. so present very little OC potential using that tiny stock heatsink. say 300-400Mhz. and its done. so do i7 930.

also once i7 930 OC'd (using OEM HSF), it'll kick 1090T out of water, even if it OCd to 4Ghz. cause Nahalem architecturally advanced. now something to note about 1090T: but the difference in performance between the 2 processors isn't ground breaking. its like comparing i7 930 to i7 965 Extreme Edition (stock speed). so one can go with 1090T. also it offers 2 things, i7 930 got absolutely no answers.

1. an unlocked multiplier.
2. can be used on a 2.5k motherboard (AM3 + DDR3). its competitor needs 10k+ priced motherboard. a straight forward price advantage.
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So alltogether, we can settle on the fact that both the procs have their pros and cons. But what will u suggest for gaming purposes, keeping in mind that I have only a 9800gtx (512) and I am not changing it.

One more thing, which will be good PSU of around 800W. I think that is enough.
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* Cooler Master real power 850
* Cooler Master 750GX
* Corsair TX750
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did u read ob fudzilla lately, a 1090T was oc'ed to 6.8 ghz with LN2.

where do these guys get it and how much does it cost?
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If u guys read this months fastrack the digit guys have overclocked i7 920 from its stock speed of 2.67ghz to 4.01ghz at STOCK HSF. sam is right nehalem is more advanced in oc.
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did u read ob fudzilla lately, a 1090T was oc'ed to 6.8 ghz with LN2.

where do these guys get it and how much does it cost?
yup. i know. but will OP build a LN2 condensator next to his PC to constantly supply liquid nitrogen?

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If u guys read this months fastrack the digit guys have overclocked i7 920 from its stock speed of 2.67ghz to 4.01ghz at STOCK HSF. sam is right nehalem is more advanced in oc.
they must have used some high quality TIM. and moreover they do these OC in open tables. not closed cabinets. add to it, they got 1-2-3 ACs making temperature constant at 24-17degree. all these factors add up in a huge way.

in short, i7 930 or X6 1090T. both OC same if circumstances are same. things comes down to X6 is dual channel, can use cheap motherboard, Black Edition (matters nothing to me).
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If u guys read this months fastrack the digit guys have overclocked i7 920 from its stock speed of 2.67ghz to 4.01ghz at STOCK HSF. sam is right nehalem is more advanced in oc.
first on all was it stable? my friend & me have OCed 1090T to 4.4GHz on stock(not stable).
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So alltogether, we can settle on the fact that both the procs have their pros and cons. But what will u suggest for gaming purposes, keeping in mind that I have only a 9800gtx (512) and I am not changing it.

One more thing, which will be good PSU of around 800W. I think that is enough.
options:-
* Cooler Master real power 850
* Cooler Master 750GX
* Corsair TX750
i wud recommend x6
and keeping in mind that u'll SLI ur 9800,CM GX750W is more than enough
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