building pc for gaming....thought required

[mac555]

i am buying the following parts....so guidance required
budget->48,000(excluding monitor and graphics card)

proc- amd x6 1055t
mobo- gigabyte 890gpa ud3h
ram- gkill 4gb
hdd- seagate 1tb
cabby- cm690
psu- corsair 650
mouse and keyboard- ?
ups- ?
dvd drive- ?

pc will be used for gaming....will purchase stuff from delhi(nehru place)...

[saurabh_1e]

Amd Phenom x6 1055t------->10.5k
Mobo Msi 890fx 11k
ram g skill 2x2 gb 1333mhz 6.3k
seagate 1 tb 4.5k
cabby cm690 4.5k
corsair 650tx 6.4k
mouse and keyboard logitech wireless 1.4k
ups 50va apc 2.3k
dvd drive sony dl dvd rw 1.2k

[Jaskanwar Singh]

i suggest the following-
but make sure you buy or have a graphic card.

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Transcend 2*2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 5.8k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB @ 4.2k
LG 22x DVD @ 1.1k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
NZXT M59 @ 3.8k
Logitech Multimedia Keyboard/Mouse Combo @ 0.8k

total = 45.1k

[saurabh_1e]

gigabyte board will be too costly leave it
msi is more vfm
biostar 890fx will come for 7.5k but i am not sure of it quality

[mavihs]

Can you fill the below questionnaire so i can suggest you a good config!

1. What is your MAX budget?
2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
3. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
4. Planning to overclock?
5. Which OS are you planning to use?
6. How much hard drive space is needed?
7. What resolution will the screen run at?
8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
10. When are you planning to buy the system?
11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Originally Posted by saurabh_1e

gigabyte board will be too costly leave it
msi is more vfm
biostar 890fx will come for 7.5k but i am not sure of it quality

i think i7 is better for gaming

[mavihs]

NZXT M59 @ 3.8k

NZXT isn't available in Delhi!

@OP
which GPU will you be adding, as the SMPS will depend on that!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

i suggest the following-
but make sure you buy or have a graphic card.

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Transcend 2*2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 5.8k
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB @ 4.2k
LG 22x DVD @ 1.1k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
NZXT M59 @ 3.8k
Logitech Multimedia Keyboard/Mouse Combo @ 0.8k

total = 45.1k

really great config. just change ram to a better one & the HDD to WD Black. done.

[mavihs]

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Transcend 2*2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 5.8k

i7 has tri-channel not dual channel!

[Jaskanwar Singh]

changing ram and hdd -

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Corsair TW3X4G-1600C9DHX 4GB Kit @ 6.6k
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB @ 5.3k
LG 22x DVD @ 1.1k
Corsair VX550W @ 4.7k
NZXT M59 @ 3.8k
Logitech Multimedia Keyboard/Mouse Combo @ 0.8k

total = 47k

[saurabh_1e]

for ram get gskill 3x 2gb tri channel kit 1333mhz or
3 x 1gb tri channel kit 1333mhz


tri channel is supported by core i 7 9xx and it will be faster than dual channel

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and get 2 x 500gb hdd
I always prefer 2 x 500gb hdd because even if one fails you are left with your imp data saved and your rig working

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nzxt may be available with smc international
when i bought my rig from him on 18 may he told me that he is getting few nzxt cabby within two weeks

[Jaskanwar Singh]

3x2 gb tri channel is costly

i found this on itwares -
G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) DDR3 1333 Triple Channel Kit Model F3-10666CL9T-3GBNQ @ 4.7k

[mac555]

i would be getting ati 5770 or ati 5850(if funds available).....and isnt i7 way at dead end as sandy bridge coming in 2011...and am3 way more future proof...And i will overclock too as i have sunbeamtech core contact freezer 120....

[saurabh_1e]

if overclocking and want to be future proof then go with amd blindly.
these were only the reason i got an amd phenom x6 1055t .

[Sam]

Originally Posted by mac555

i would be getting ati 5770 or ati 5850(if funds available).....and isnt i7 way at dead end as sandy bridge coming in 2011...and am3 way more future proof...And i will overclock too as i have sunbeamtech core contact freezer 120....

Sandy Bridges will only revolutionize i3 & i5. it'll bring graphics turbo. not much for i7 or say nothing for i7 to be precise.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

Originally Posted by saurabh_1e

if overclocking and want to be future proof then go with amd blindly.
these were only the reason i got an amd phenom x6 1055t .

intel will not wipe out core i7 when sandy bridge comes.
i7 will overclock beyond 4ghz mark easily

[mac555]

Originally Posted by mavihs

Can you fill the below questionnaire so i can suggest you a good config!

1. What is your MAX budget? ->48000
2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? ->yes
3. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that) ->gaming,coding and some video editing and stuff
4. Planning to overclock? ->yes
5. Which OS are you planning to use? ->windows and ubuntu
6. How much hard drive space is needed? ->500gb-1tb
7. What resolution will the screen run at? ->1920*1080
8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest) ->5
9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler? ->by me
10. When are you planning to buy the system?->in a week or so
11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations? ->yes
12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? ->monitor and graphics
13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states? ->delhi,will purchase from delhi only...

[mavihs]

for ram get gskill 3x 2gb tri channel kit 1333mhz or
3 x 1gb tri channel kit 1333mhz

thats going to go way out of his budget with good RAM!

tri channel is supported by core i 7 9xx and it will be faster than dual channel

i7 9xx doesn't support dual channel!

nzxt may be available with smc international

nope! they only deal in CM!

when i bought my rig from him on 18 may he told me that he is getting few nzxt cabby within two weeks

& who was this person? i've personally talked to the head of SMC & they will never get NZXT cabbies!

Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh

changing ram and hdd -

Core i7 930 2.8GHz @ 13.9k
MSI X58 Pro @ 10.8k
Corsair TW3X4G-1600C9DHX 4GB Kit @ 6.6k
total = 47k

don't you get it, dual channel doesn't work in i7 9xx!

isnt i7 way at dead end as sandy bridge coming in 2011

Originally Posted by Sam.Shab

Sandy Bridges will only revolutionize i3 & i5. it'll bring graphics turbo. not much for i7 or say nothing for i7 to be precise.

the socket change for i7 is going to take place in end 2011 or starting 2012

[Sam]

Originally Posted by mavihs

i7 9xx doesn't support dual channel!

WHAT? who told so? it do support Dual Channel. Single Channel. Triple Channel. just the performance will be different. if you don't believe me, look out here:will dual channel ram work triple

Dual-stick DDR3 kits work just fine. 1366 motherboards can handle single, dual and triple channel memory configurations.

You will have to check your manual to see which specific slots it requires, but it'll work.

Originally Posted by mavihs

the socket change for i7 is going to take place in end 2011 or starting 2012

most probably will be based on Intel X68 chipset.

[asingh]

@Mavihs:
i7 architecture does support dual channel. If multiple of 2x DIMMs are loaded it moves to dual channel, and if 3x DIMMs aer loaded it adjusts to tri-channel. Its is how the memory controller sees the whole chunk on memory modules docked. Here is a review with analysis of dual vs tri channel.

[Sam]

by 2012, i3 & i5 will have a shift to 22nm & Ivy Bridge & i7 from Nahalem to haswell.

[mavihs]

WHAT? who told so?

it do support Dual Channel. Single Channel. Triple Channel. just the performance will be different. if you don't believe me, look out here:will dual channel ram work triple

thanx for the info guys!

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Amd P2 x6 1055T - 10.5k
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 - 6.2K
RAM GSkill 2GB x2 DDR3 1600MHz Ripjaws - 7.5K
WD 1TB Black - 5.2K
CM 690 - 4.3K
CM GX 650W - 5.7K
Mouse: Logitech MX518 - 1.4K
Keyboard: Microsoft Comfort Curve - 1K
UPS: APC 600VA (should be around 2.8K but not sure)
HP 24x DVD WR - 1.5K

[saurabh_1e]

Originally Posted by mavihs

thats going to go way out of his budget with good RAM!

i7 9xx doesn't support dual channel!

nope! they only deal in CM!
& who was this person? i've personally talked to the head of SMC & they will never get NZXT cabbies!

don't you get it, dual channel doesn't work in i7 9xx!


the socket change for i7 is going to take place in end 2011 or starting 2012

the person there was Mr. Gurmeet (think so)
He told me he is getting around 12-15 nzxt cabby model he doesn't know and cost was around 2.4k so i thought they must be overpriced gamma only.

[rahul.007]

but he doesn't stock nzxt(anything except coolermaster)....

i called him yesterday to inquire about the price of kingston 2 gb ddr3 1333mhz(2.7k), cm hyper 212 (2.1k) and asked for some other stuff 2 as usual(nzxt m59, hd 5670, phenom II*6 1055t)....

he said he doesnt keep any cabby's except cooler master but if someone wanted nzxt m59 badly, he could try an arrange one for around 4k....

[asingh]

^^
WHY..the heck are you guys paying premium for products available online..? Yes, SMC does not host anything else but CM cabinets.

[rkneo11]

go for a core i7 or atleast a corei5 over AMD...

[mavihs]

Originally Posted by saurabh_1e

the person there was Mr. Gurmeet (think so)
He told me he is getting around 12-15 nzxt cabby model he doesn't know and cost was around 2.4k so i thought they must be overpriced gamma only.

when did he tell you this?

Originally Posted by asigh

^^
WHY..the heck are you guys paying premium for products available online..? Yes, SMC does not host anything else but CM cabinets.

it'll cost the same, even if you order online as the shipping costs a lot!

[Hsakarp_kahtap]

Yesterday i went to smc and enquired for the AMD rig+ NZXT GAMMA cabby , they told me, they ordered 50 NZXT cabby and it will cost around 2.6k and will be come in 1-3rd of june .

[rahul.007]

2.6k for gamma!!!! never man.... ye to mujhe batae hue price se bhee jyada hai....

[asingh]

Originally Posted by mavihs

it'll cost the same, even if you order online as the shipping costs a lot!

No it does not. You need to ask the online shop, at times they offer good shipping methods at cheaper prices (which are not on their portal). Last year I ordered a CPU,2 GPUS, RAM, PSU, CM690, Motherboard, CM 120mm FANS all from Lynx. There were two large boxes. One for the components and one was the original CM690 box. Guess how much I paid for freight/courier till my doorstep. Rs. 450.

Heck even so suppose you pay a bit extra for the shipping, since cabinets are heavy. See the positive side -- do not need to go to the vendors shop, you get what you want sitting at your home in a cool a/c room. People may argue that they want to see the tangible product, but if one has researched enough online, it is easy to make out the product. Seeing the product physically will hardly tell you features.