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01-03-2010, 01:44 PM
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Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
Hello Folks..
I was in the market for purchasing an Sony LCD HDTV but was told that Sony had released a new line of TV's namely the NX and EX series..
my sight was set on the 40" Z series but know after reading abt the NX series i figured out that the one which we have is a really downgraded model when compared with the one available in the UK (NX503) or the US (NX700)..
also what the deal with the EX series..
the EX500 40" is priced Rs 73000 here while it is 900$ is the USA..
i mean come one Japan (actually China) is way closer to India then it is to the USA..
so why so much difference is the prices..??
why are we ignored so much..??
i really liked the new NX500 but when compared to its counterpart in the UK I really felt bad as the set of features there is just too good..
so are those TV's ever going come to India or should i just go ahead and buy what is currently available..
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01-03-2010, 07:40 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
is this in like the wrong section or smtn???
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01-03-2010, 07:58 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
haha Sony sucks, as simple as that.
Sony Bravia is overpriced sh1te.
LG and Samsung ftw - better display quality and features.
Do have a look at LG Scarlet 2.0
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01-03-2010, 09:56 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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haha Sony sucks, as simple as that.
Sony Bravia is overpriced sh1te.
LG and Samsung ftw - better display quality and features.
Do have a look at LG Scarlet 2.0 
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still i feel dat the Sony Z series is THE S**T...
not so sure abt the NX series bcz of the reasons i mentioned above..
not a fan of LG..
tho Samsung looks good..
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02-03-2010, 12:53 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
LG is better than Sony anyday and everyday.
I've seen all at the showroom. LG is seriously underrated.
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03-03-2010, 03:19 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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LG is better than Sony anyday and everyday.
I've seen all at the showroom. LG is seriously underrated.
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Ur anyday means 31st feb........
Can't even think to compare LG LCD with Sony's BRAVIA
SONY BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE WORLD OTHER JUST FOLLOW IT.
SAMSUNG IS GOOD option too...........
By the way
Wait for some time for price correction
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03-03-2010, 10:46 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
agree with ICO.
LG n Samsung...twice the features...half the price of sony.
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03-03-2010, 11:05 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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Originally Posted by parimal_xp2003
Ur anyday means 31st feb........
Can't even think to compare LG LCD with Sony's BRAVIA
SONY BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE WORLD OTHER JUST FOLLOW IT.
SAMSUNG IS GOOD option too...........
By the way
Wait for some time for price correction
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Believe what Sony WANTS YOU to believe. And do look at LG panels before making these kinds of kiddish statements.
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Can't even think to compare LG LCD with Sony's BRAVIA
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Sony Bravia is mostly hype, rest is your money.
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04-03-2010, 12:41 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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Believe what Sony WANTS YOU to believe. And do look at LG panels before making these kinds of kiddish statements.
Sony Bravia is mostly hype, rest is your money. 
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i am no brand freak..
if LG is better than Sony than i would obviously go for Sony..
though i must say the NX series and the Z series by Sony is awesome..
so can one elaborate more on this LG vs Sony vs Samsung LCD shootout??
what features will i miss if i go for a Sony instead of a Samsung or LG??
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04-03-2010, 01:25 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
I think you need to visit E-Zone and see the difference for yourself in the level of quality of Sony LCD TVs. I've bought 32 inch Samsung Series 5 thinking Sony is over-priced but when my sister bought Sony and gave me the reason, I checked them out again.
Next time you visit E-zone, look at the darker shades in Sony and Samsung. Samsung just blacks out most of the shades while Sony will have much more shades. I think it must be something to do with the contrast ratio but there is definitely a big difference. I've started noticing it now on my Samsung TV how conveniently darker shades are blacked out.
My second TV would most definitely be a Sony.
BTW my Sony Vaio sucked big time and is almost dead in 2 years despite the fact that I treated it very nicely  Still Sony is Sony and their after-sales service levels are excellent. And I absolutely love my Sony H-50 digital camera.
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haha Sony sucks, as simple as that.
Sony Bravia is overpriced sh1te.
LG and Samsung ftw - better display quality and features.
Do have a look at LG Scarlet 2.0 
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04-03-2010, 01:56 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
i really liked the the new LG LED models..
the LG 42LH90QR and LG 42SL90QR look amazing..
even the feature list is really awesome..
how do these TV's stand compared to the Sony Z series and NX series..??
also
what would be the market price of the LG TV's mentioned above??
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04-03-2010, 03:26 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
^^ things get subjective and specify ur BUDGET...budget is the most important thing u must tell.
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04-03-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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^^ things get subjective and specify ur BUDGET...budget is the most important thing u must tell. 
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my budget is around 1 lakh...
but it wont hurt if i don't have to spend the entire amount..
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05-03-2010, 06:56 PM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
lol, I had got a temporary ban and now I have returned.
I had a look at Sony's NX700 and NX800 series. Finally Sony has come up with LED back-lit TVs. The great thing which they have is Wifi and YouTube support. But But but, as usual they will be overpriced.
Now here's what you should go for.
LG 42LH90QR - the best you'll get. It has everything and it will be around 75k.  (As far as Picture Quality is concerned, be a judge your own self.)
If you need Wifi and YouTube streaming, then you can also go for, WD TV Live HD Media Player - it will play any damned video format you throw at it (it is used in conjunction with an external HDD or Flash drive) and can also stream YouTube. It will cost around 7.5k and it supports networking through Ethernet. For Wifi, get one of the supported USB Wireless Adapter (Rs.800) and use it.
One more thing, I would warn you before hand that other companies like Samsung and LG usually announce their new series of Televisions in the summer. So, wait for a month.
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Ur anyday means 31st feb........
Can't even think to compare LG LCD with Sony's BRAVIA
SONY BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE WORLD OTHER JUST FOLLOW IT.
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Let Sony first manufacture their OWN LCD panels. Currently they buy from Samsung and Sharp (Google it). We'll talk later then. 
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I think you need to visit E-Zone and see the difference for yourself in the level of quality of Sony LCD TVs.
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I had bought myself an LG Scarlet 2.0 in Diwali for a little over 40k and I had seen the difference between the level of quality (and obviously price)of Sony LCD TVs.
PS: I had gone to buy a "Sony" LCD TV.
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06-03-2010, 12:45 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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lol, I had got a temporary ban and now I have returned.
I had a look at Sony's NX700 and NX800 series. Finally Sony has come up with LED back-lit TVs. The great thing which they have is Wifi and YouTube support. But But but, as usual they will be overpriced.
Now here's what you should go for.
LG 42LH90QR - the best you'll get. It has everything and it will be around 75k.  (As far as Picture Quality is concerned, be a judge your own self.)
If you need Wifi and YouTube streaming, then you can also go for, WD TV Live HD Media Player - it will play any damned video format you throw at it (it is used in conjunction with an external HDD or Flash drive) and can also stream YouTube. It will cost around 7.5k and it supports networking through Ethernet. For Wifi, get one of the supported USB Wireless Adapter (Rs.800) and use it.
One more thing, I would warn you before hand that other companies like Samsung and LG usually announce their new series of Televisions in the summer. So, wait for a month.
Let Sony first manufacture their OWN LCD panels. Currently they buy from Samsung and Sharp (Google it). We'll talk later then. 
I had bought myself an LG Scarlet 2.0 in Diwali for a little over 40k and I had seen the difference between the level of quality (and obviously price)of Sony LCD TVs.
PS: I had gone to buy a "Sony" LCD TV. 
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where did u see the NX700 and NX800??
are they available in India??
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06-03-2010, 01:12 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
^ I meant on the Internet for Sony NX*00 series. They aren't available in India as of now.
Regarding the LG ones, I've seen them in reality.
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06-03-2010, 05:08 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
I agree SONY india SUCKS ..period Look at their portable audio player line up aka walkman ,then compare it with japan and europe or even US .Here they sell stupid 4 gb players,then they want to capture portable audio market here (Only in Dreams ).
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06-03-2010, 09:51 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
@ico: how is LG Scarlet....
if we compare LG with Samsung which is good & cheaper???
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07-03-2010, 12:33 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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Let Sony first manufacture their OWN LCD panels. Currently they buy from Samsung and Sharp (Google it). We'll talk later then. 
I had bought myself an LG Scarlet 2.0 in Diwali for a little over 40k and I had seen the difference between the level of quality (and obviously price)of Sony LCD TVs.
PS: I had gone to buy a "Sony" LCD TV. 
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Man......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WHO HAS TOLD YOU THAT. Whatever people write on forum i might be news for u.
SONY & SAMSUNG WERE JOINTLY DEVELOPING LCD PANEL NOW IT IS WITH SHARP.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SONY IS BUYING IT FROM THEM. DO U KNOW WHAT JOINT VENTURE IS????????????????? IT IS COMMON PLANT OF WHERE BOTH COMPANIES ARE INVESTING THEIR FUND & TECHNOLOGY
http://www.televisions.com/tv-news/N...th-Samsung.php
http://www.infoworld.com/t/hardware/...cd-factory-419
http://hd.engadget.com/2006/09/20/so...ion-schedules/
& Remember LCD Panel is not only factor for picture quality.
1. As all of us know that today's HD Media Blu-ray is invented by Sony & Philips.
2. HDMI was invented by Hitachi, Philips, Sony, Toshiba, Thomson, Panasonic and Quasar
WHERE IS YOUR LG ??????????????
" SONY BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE WORLD OTHER JUST FOLLOW IT "
I am not Sony Fan Boy But I give the credit to those who really Deserve.
And If you really feel the LG's picture quality is better than BRAVIA................ YOU MUST CHECK YOUR EYES............... I CAN'T HELP.
FACT: LG owns 8 % of Market Revenue while SONY Owns 18 % and SAMSUNG own 20 %
Go to Croma to confirm this figure.
SONY & SAMSUNG ARE GOOD TO BUY.........
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07-03-2010, 12:56 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
^ don't troll.  I had got banned earlier for flaming a retard, I don't wanna get banned again.
By "buying" I meant a joint venture in which Sony makes use of Samsung's "LCD panels" only the panels because Sony is losing millions of $$$. Thats why the need for a "join venture". Not self sufficient at the moment.
Check out the DISPLAY quality by your own self. :/ And see for 50 thousand, which company gives you the best features, display quality, specifications and VFM. Talk later.
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
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1. As all of us know that today's HD Media Blu-ray is invented by Sony & Philips.
2. HDMI was invented by Hitachi, Philips, Sony, Toshiba, Thomson, Panasonic and Quasar
WHERE IS YOUR LG ??????????????
" SONY BRINGS TECHNOLOGY TO THE WORLD OTHER JUST FOLLOW IT "
I am not Sony Fan Boy But I give the credit to those who really Deserve.
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You do sound like a Fanboy.  And what has this stuff got to do with the topic?
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And If you really feel the LG's picture quality is better than BRAVIA................ YOU MUST CHECK YOUR EYES............... I CAN'T HELP.
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LG's picture quality is indeed better than Bravia for the SAME PRICE RANGE and heck Sony's price being higher.
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FACT: LG owns 8 % of Market Revenue while SONY Owns 18 % and SAMSUNG own 20 %
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How does that make it better? 
Internet Explorer dominates the browser market too
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SONY & SAMSUNG ARE GOOD TO BUY.........
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So is LG  LG and Samsung are good choices.
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07-03-2010, 01:28 AM
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Re: Why Is Sony Doing This To India??
And many might think that I'm only supporting LG over here. I've repeatedly said that be your own judge regarding Picture Quality. @OP: It's your TV, your money.
I am in NO way an LG fanboy. In my first post, I've easily said LG and Samsung are the best. Better Contrast ratios, response time, USB + DivX feature and Bluetooth.
Regarding Samsung, I had a nice view at all their LCD TVs, but LG was more appealing to my eyes. (opinion) Sony was way too overpriced for me to be liked and it wasn't even great. (fact)
My Micro HT Setup Review “Onkyo 6200 HTiB, LG LH70 47 LCD, Panasonic BD60 BRp” --- quoting form this link which also shares a similar experience to mine.
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LG 47LH70 YR LCD
Next comes the Display, initially I had planned the get a 42” LCD infact up till the last moment I was opting for 42” but given the price I got this one for was tempting enough to go for 47”. First of all I am not mesmerized by these so called LED LCD, especially Samsung have advertize LED like a revolution of some sort in LCD TVs, where as in reality there is not much of a difference. The showroom people might configure their displays to show one LCD giving a better PQ than the other, but if you play your own BR, resetting all the settings of the LCD, you would not see much of a PQ difference, infact LCD came out to be a winner in terms of Blacks.
For me contenders were ofcourse Samsung and LG, SONY I would say have seriously over priced their products. As I said earlier the showroom display should never be treated as your deciding factor. If I had done that I might have landed buying a Samsung. But finally went for 47LH70YR
What I did was I took my own BRp and disk and connected it to a Samsung 47” and two of LGs 47”, re-set all the display setting to one neutral figure. Turned off all enhancement modes available for all the models and reviewed. The BR I played was my “Night in the Museum 2”. Now believe it or not after doing this all 3 LCDs more or less were same in PQ, If I had to differentiate LG had better vibrant colours, and Samsung was better in displaying blacks. Sharpness was also better in LG, but the Glossy shine of the picture was in Samsung. Then what made me decide for LG….?? that is when I started fiddling with the PQ controls and started customizing the picture, that is where LG out performed by a fair margin, few adjustments with the picture controls and I was surprised how good LG PQ was looking over Samsung, unfortunately I could never configure Samsung controls to get the same PQ as LG. The blacks that were looking good on Samsung on neutral setting were overshadow and easily lacking by the richness of LG blacks by adjusting the Blacklevel, gamma, contrast and dynamic contrast. And trust me when it comes to customizing controls, LG has provided enough to adjust PQ per your needs. A clear winner.
An example is ….
I am very particular in doing all the TV adjustments manually, and I was kinda skeptical as to how the TV would integrate with the inputs provided by my AVR. This is how I have configured my picture modes.
1. Expert 1: BlueRay player
2. Expert 2: AC Ryan PlayONHD
3. Game: HTPC
4. User: TataSky+ STB
Each mode is configured differently, and no settings are lost at any point, even if as I said I pull out the plug. Infact when I change the mode through my AVR say for example from BR to HTPC my TV automatically changes its picture mode from Expert 1 to Game (and I was surprised on the initially) , I practically have to do nothing. If you ask me I am very satisfied how LG has worked on this
Another clrear advantage with LG is the IPS pannel, IPS is anyway better then TN LCD, not only does it gives better contrast, the viewing angle improves drastically.
Coming to the Menu, which is made very simple and self explainatory.....
few snaps of how the menu looks...
Apart from this, LG had the following noticeable features
1. USB Input with DivX/XviD/Mpeg 1/2 playback support along with MP3/WMA music files and Images (Jpg)
2. Bluetooth to connect you phone and view the pictures/ play music directly off the phone. Also can connect a Bluetooth headphone to have those night movies. Apart from this has a 1,000,00 : 1 contrast ratio, 2.4 ms GTG response time and 3 HDMI inputs.
I also have connected my HTPC, through HDMI cable, I have a Radion HD5850 and believe me gamers I swear to Quake series, gaming at 1980x1080 on 47” display looks fu*kin AMAZING, The PQ is Razor sharp not even the BR comes close to the PQ through HTPC on HD5850. The LCD again should also be made commendable for this, but as I said make sure you configure the LCD settings, for example the sharpness bar is almost notched to full while I am surfing on 47” or playing games, but believe me, I am playing NFS-Shift and COD4:Mordern Warfare 2 and I am simple LOVING it.
Special Note on True Motion: True Motion @ 100 Htz or 200Htz is a technology, that displays 100/200 images per second as compared to 50Hz for a normal TV. Now I don’t know if I am being picky here but True Motion on an LCD for Movies looks absolutely pathetic, yes it does makes the picture smooth, but when you are actually watching a movie, it make it look more like a documentary rather than a feature film. Surprisingly this is only on LCDs, I also have a Philips 720p CRT with 100 Hz Motion, but it does not show any such deformity. I was very disappointed with this tech BUT as people say, sometimes things happen for good as well…..fortunately there was an option to turn that off plus while playing games, true motion does wonders to the gameplay, I was like WTH, finally something good about this godawfull technology. Keeping the TM to full makes the gameplay amazingly smooth and that is what is required, while playing games.
Also point to note is that not all LG LCDs have the option to turn this thing off, so make sure you do your complete research before buying the LCD.
PRICE: 73K nothing extra
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