Motherboard and processor.

[fatalcore]

Hi,
i am back after 5 and 1/2 month.
requesting xpert comment and suggestion,for a motherboard.
i5 750 , for below rs.8000.

Requesting topgear,to kindly send me a message as i need ur advice.

thanks,
regards,
fatalcore.:-P

[vickybat]

^^

MSI P55 CD-53 @ 7.5k

This is the best at the budget.

[fatalcore]

thanks vickybat,
also requesting to know is it fair enough to upgrade from q9550+ep45 ud3l to i5+something?
Regards,
fatalcore
looking forward for some more comments and advice.

[asingh]

Well, I am not Vickybat, so pardon me.

Will you game a lot on this system. What else you have on the P45..?

[fatalcore]

hi asigh, its nice to talk to u again,

thats the point i dont play too much games now a days.i am also thinking amd x4 -965+ something.

as for now i have a v8cooler master,and a creative XFi card. 240GB HDD.that's all.

thanks,
regards,
fatalcore.

[vickybat]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

thanks vickybat,
also requesting to know is it fair enough to upgrade from q9550+ep45 ud3l to i5+something?
Regards,
fatalcore
looking forward for some more comments and advice.

You've already got a great rig which still has enough horses.
I'd say that wait for something substantial to get released like hexacore processors.Then you can splurge into it.

Look whwn i upgraded to i5 my previous system was a p4 @ 3.06ghz with 512mb ram and a 80gb hdd.

So i needed to upgrade to something more powerful and should last a while.
But you still have a good system so you should wait.
Again its completely upto you buddy so you decide.

[fatalcore]

i get that bro,
but i am just asking for an option,if now i want an upgrade,is it worth enough to change to i5 or X4 965BE ?
If so what are my choices.

Thanks
regards,
fatalcore.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

i get that bro,
but i am just asking for an option,if now i want an upgrade,is it worth enough to change to i5 or X4 965BE ?
If so what are my choices.

Thanks
regards,
fatalcore.

mate, if u already own a top of the line last gen proccy, buying a new proccy of new gen won't impress u with power. though may reach much higher clock speed with that mighty V8 cooler. if u want get a new processor, get i7.

as for the X4 965, its a bit costly. the X4 955 is much better priced. 965/955 can be termed as cheaper versions of i5.

so if u want a upgrade u can either get i7 or better wait for Intel Sandy Bridges or AMD Llano with planned to come out next year.

[asingh]

Fatalcore..
Well if you have a q9550+ep45 ud3l, moving to an i5/P55 will not make earth shattering differences to you. OC that chip man. And get more performance. Maximum if you want put in a powerful accelerator. That depends on your budget. If you HAVE TO upgrade then i7 would make a difference.

[vickybat]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

i get that bro,
but i am just asking for an option,if now i want an upgrade,is it worth enough to change to i5 or X4 965BE ?
If so what are my choices.

Thanks
regards,
fatalcore.

@ fatalcore

Buddy what asigh says is true. You won't get earth shattering difference.Instead of spending on a cpu+mobo+ram combo go for a better gpu to maximize your system performance.

Radeon 5850 is advisable since you've got a corsair vx450.
Look for for sapphire or powercolor.Its definitely gonna give a big performance boost over that 9500gt of yours.

[comp@ddict]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

thanks vickybat,
also requesting to know is it fair enough to upgrade from q9550+ep45 ud3l to i5+something?
Regards,
fatalcore
looking forward for some more comments and advice.

Not worth it at all IMO, the Q9550 is MORE THAN enuf, and u have a gr8 config.

This will hold out till the 32nm Quad cores, so save ur money till 2011.

[fatalcore]

Thanks a lot for the early reply.
I completely agree with ur suggestion.
However , i was thinking to replace, because of two thing's mainly,
1.Presently i am using 8GB DDR2 800mhz ram
2.And my motherboard doesn't support SLI.

I have an option to scrap the existing system and upgrade at Rs.O.OO cost.
Hence , i thought even if i dont get an super upgrade processor or motherboard.I can switch to
AMDII PhenomX4 965 with
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO Motherboard and
8gb DDR3 1333 MHz Ram

So that even if i have to upgrade my processor and motherboard i can save on ram in the future.

As,i will be using my existing PSU-VX450,CM v8,240 GB HDD,DVD-RW,CM-690 Cabinet,XFX 250 1gb,Creative 5.1,XFi sound blaster.
I am also thinking of purchasing another XFX 250 1Gb.
I am also upgrading my current CRT(LG Flatron-E700SH) to Asus MS236H 23".
Along with a TV Tunner card.

Please suggest.

Looking forward for ur cooperation

thanks
regards,
Fatalcore.

[asingh]

^
Meaning, you keep you existing system, pull out the RAM and use it on an SLI AMD rig..?

[fatalcore]

no, take it this way.

i have to exchange my existing rig for the SLI AMD rig with DDR3 support.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

no, take it this way.

i have to exchange my existing rig for the SLI AMD rig with DDR3 support.

SLI & that also on AMD? hows it possible? sell your GTS250 & get HD5850. or 2 X HD5770 in crossfireX.

[fatalcore]

ohh yes extremely sorry....its crossfire and not sli...i offen confuse this stuff.ok...graphics card is second priority.please enlighten me about the main component issue.
thanks
please confirm the price of HD5770 also(In kolkata will be great).

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

ohh yes extremely sorry....its crossfire and not sli...i offen confuse this stuff.ok...graphics card is second priority.please enlighten me about the main component issue.
thanks
please confirm the price of HD5770 also(In kolkata will be great).

yah, its a bit confusing, i agree .

ok, so in short, if you upgrading get i7 920 if you can. if you can't get i5 750. V8 cooler should take care of OC u do to these beasts.

if AMD maximum is X4 955 BE + MSI 790GX or some other board based on 790GX. if possible 790FX. they support true crossfireX wheres as in Asus M4A785TD-V EVO u'll get X16 + X4 crossfire. means 1 card running at full speed. other running at 1/4 of its ability. & also u'll have to change ram as almost all boards for AMD platform nowadays support DDR3 only.

[fatalcore]

@Sam.Shab

Please dont confuse me ....

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO u'll get X16 + X4 crossfire. means 1 card running at full speed. other running at 1/4 of its ability.

What does this mean? What is this concept? how can i understand this logic??

I cant afford 4 GPU bro,2 is fine.

Here is the new config i am thinking,

AMD phenom X4 965BE 3.4 GHz
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Dominator 2X2Gb DDR3
V8 CM
VX 450
320GB WD
Asus VH222D-22' Full HD
Creative 5.1
Xfi Sound Blaster
DVDrw
Normal cabinet.
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No money for GPU .... will get HD 5770 x2 later on.
-----------------------

Please suggest ur options.
Mainly-LCD,cabinet etc etc
--------------------------
Scraping down:
Q9550
GA EP45 UD3L
4GB DDR2 Corsair ram
9500GT
LG Flatron CRT 17'
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Extra payment....Rs.1021 after upgrade.
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Requesting comments and suggestion.

Please assist.
thanks
fatalcore.

[asingh]

^^
If you are going to get the Asus M4A785TD-V EVO for multi-GPU, please do not.

See, the graphics accelerator is mounted on a PCI.E x 16 dock. This has 16 dual channel channels which are used by the accelerator to communicate with the CPU. Now in the case of Asus M4A785TD-V EVO, the 2nd card will only have 4 lanes to communicate with the CPU. So this way, you are theoretically only using 25% of the second card, IF you get it. If you will use only one accelerator, then this board is perfect.

[fatalcore]

ok, i get that.... something something.(Am not a technical guy-Less brain to understand lanes and all)
so, please suggest a mothboard with 2 PCI X16 is enough.and its prices please.

Also suggest the LCD and cabinet and the entire rig.Is the switch ok?
thanks,
fatalcore.

[vickybat]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

ok, i get that.... something something.(Am not a technical guy-Less brain to understand lanes and all)
so, please suggest a mothboard with 2 PCI X16 is enough.and its prices please.

Also suggest the LCD and cabinet and the entire rig.Is the switch ok?
thanks,
fatalcore.

My god, buddy you seem to be obsessed with AMD.
No offense but getting the 965be,ditching the 9550 and waiting for 5770 cf is simply an otherworldly desire.

If you want to maximize your system performance then go for a 5970 instead of changing everything along with a good psu.

The performance of 965be doesnt simply cut at that pricepoint considering the mighty i7's & i5's.

This was just my personal opinion but its your cash and you'll spend it the way you like.

Regarding cf boards go for am3 790 chipset based boards to access full x16-x16 configuration.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

ok, i get that.... something something.(Am not a technical guy-Less brain to understand lanes and all)
so, please suggest a mothboard with 2 PCI X16 is enough.and its prices please.

Also suggest the LCD and cabinet and the entire rig.Is the switch ok?
thanks,
fatalcore.

ASUS M4A78T-E. this is a very good 1. with 2 Pcie X16 slots for dual graphics or MSI 790GX-G65 AM3. in previous post was telling you can use 4 cards if u wish to with motherboard based on AMD 790FX. u still may use 1, no problem, but it got the capability to handle 4. ok want the best of all? Get ASUS CROSSHAIR III FORMULA. not know much about pricing though.

but seriously, if u spending around 9.5k on 965, better get i5. supports crossfire by P55 motherboards. also your V8 cooler wil be used to its full potential rather than sitting & counting sheep.

if u plan to add another Card in crossfireX, get Cooler Master Centurion 690. its best in business.

[asingh]

ASUS M4A78T-E = x8 x8 Auto arrangement for dual cards.
MSI 790GX-G65 = x8 x8 Auto arrangement for dual cards.
ASUS CROSSHAIR III = x16 x16 for dual cards.

Theory:
The PCI.Ex16 arrangement of x8 x8 vs. x16 x16, see a difference of around 10-12%. And that too if your resolution is >= 1920x1080. Else, at screens lower than this, it will hardly matter. Be it a single card/dual card, you will mostly get the same performance. That is games, not synthetic test. I using a x8 x8 on 1920 x 1080, and I immediately see a drop of 20FPS in Crysis, and a drop of 30FPS in RE5.

If you are ready to spend so much cash, for x16 x16 AMD boards, might as well pick a P55/i5 combination. You will get x8 x8, but you can OC that board/chip, and get better performance. (Like I have). Heck even a LGA 775 Quad (Q95xx) would do for you, but will not recommend, cause for the same price a i5 is available. Xfire with HD5770 on a P55/i5, will seriously kick ass, even at HD resolutions.

[fatalcore]

thanks a lot for such fast response ,
after all this discussion i guess i got what i wanted.(I should stick to my q9550 and replace my 9500GT to XFX 260 1gb).
However my uncle's son wants a configuration , price band rs.45,000.(Complete rig with keyboard and mouse also).
Please advice

Basic requirement : Lcd (18.5-19' max 20')and dominator Ram (No idea abt this stuff.)

thanks
fatalcore.
Please quote price also(Preferable Kolkata).
Please suggest.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

thanks a lot for such fast response ,
after all this discussion i guess i got what i wanted.(I should stick to my q9550 and replace my 9500GT to XFX 260 1gb).
However my uncle's son wants a configuration , price band rs.45,000.(Complete rig with keyboard and mouse also).
Please advice

Basic requirement : Lcd (18.5-19' max 20')and dominator Ram (No idea abt this stuff.)

thanks
fatalcore.
Please quote price also(Preferable Kolkata).
Please suggest.

get HD 5770 so that you can later add 1 more & CrossFire them rather than sell your GTX260 later.

Phenom II X2 555 3.2GHz B.E. @ 5.2k
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO @ 6.5k
G.Skill 2*2GB DDR3 1333Mhz C9 ~5.8k
Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB @ 2.5k
Sony 24X DVD ~1.3k
Gigabyte 80 Plus Active PFC 460W ~2.5k
Cooler Master Elite 310 Transparent @ 1.8k
Logitech Internet Desktop @ 0.6k
Samsung 2033SW 20" LCD Monitor @ 7.2k
Altec Lansing VS2421 2.1 @ 2.6k
APC 650Va @ 3.1k

Total @ 39.1k if he wants a graphics card, just get Transcand ram & 22X DVD Writer & add a HD5670 512Mb GDDR5 simple or even HD 5750 for more firepower. finish.

[fatalcore]

Thanks to all, All my questions are answered.

Moderators can close the thread, if they want.
Regards,
Fatalcore.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

Thanks to all, All my questions are answered.

Moderators can close the thread, if they want.
Regards,
Fatalcore.

happy buying. do post your final damage to your pocket here.

[fatalcore]

Need to discuss,requesting for reopening the thread.
regards,
fatalcore.
fatalcore.in@gmail.com
Please add me and ping me if u are there->asigh,Sam.Shab,vickybat,topgear,thunder.dragon and others.Please.

[asingh]

This thread is still open..?

[RobinGoel]

Originally Posted by fatalcore

Hi,
i am back after 5 and 1/2 month.
requesting xpert comment and suggestion,for a motherboard.
i5 750 , for below rs.8000.

Requesting topgear,to kindly send me a message as i need ur advice.

thanks,
regards,
fatalcore.:-P

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