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NEW COMP QUERY
i M Planning to buy a new PC.
But i have lil problem in deciding which & what to buy.
My budget is around 40000-45000.
i want a high-end SYSTEM with a gr8 multi-tasking capabalities & for ANIMATION {running high softs like MAYA, 3D MAX} & FOR WATCHING HD MOVIES.
With these i had in mind that i want to purchase a i5 pro.
So dealer gave me these configs with their prices.
Core i5+DP55WB --> 18000
2x2GB DDR3 --> 400 {dont know brand}
nvidia 1gb G card --> 4-5000 {approx}
iball cabinet --> 1300
i Have 500GB WD internal HDD & moserbaer DvD writer.
with these i have few queries :
1} So what do u all guys think should i go with intel OR AMD ??
2} instead of DP55WB i think of going with DP55KG
3} i m hinking of zebronics cabinet.
4} As i dwnld lots of movies i m thinking of buying 1tb xternal WD hDd
5} Pls. suggest a good system with prices.
i m w8ing for reply.
PlS. do reply with a g00d solution. {i m very confused at this }
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06-12-2009, 08:29 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
At your budget you can have best Value for money from the both world.
I am suggesting solutions from both the brands:
Intel Solution
1.Core i5 i750 2.66GHz @ 10.3k
2. Gigabyte GA-55 UD2 @ 7k
3. Transcend 2X2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Ram @ 4.8k
4. Palit GTX260 896MB GDDR3 SONIC @ 10.6k
5. Monitor: BenQ 22" G2220 FULL HD LCD Monitor @ 8k
6. Cabinet: Zebronics Bijli @ 1.4k
7. GlacialPower 650W AA @ 4.7k
8. Seagate 1 TB @ 4k (32 MB cache)
total 50.8k. But street price will be little lower.
AMD Solution
1. Phenom II 965 3.4 GHz @ 10k
2. Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @ 5.5k
3. Transcend 2X2 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Ram @ 4.8k
4. Palit GTX275 896MB GDDR3 @ 13.9K or HD 4890 @ 12k
Other configurations are same
price: 50.4k.
Now comparison between between 2 specification.
The performance of Core i7 is slightly better than Phenom II 965. But if you go for AMD you can get a high end Gfx card.
Gfx Crad: I suggested Nvdia based solution because Nvida cards support CUDA. Which means most of the software you mentioned will be accelerated by an Nvdia card. Although ATI stream support is also getting implemented in most of the editing and animation software (Like products of Adobe), Nvidia CUDA is still ahed.
Alternatively you can wait for few days untill the price of the DX 11 cards reduced a little. Then you can get a Radeon HD 5850 @ 15k. My suggestion is for waiting a little
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06-12-2009, 09:06 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
^^ hey thanks.
But i was thinking what was the harm in intels motherboard.
either DP55KG or DP55WB
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06-12-2009, 09:36 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
^^
You cannot overclock the Intel motherboards.
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07-12-2009, 12:58 AM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz) - 10.2k
Mobo - GA-P55M-UD2 - 6.7k
Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k
HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200.12 - 2.3k
Graphics card - ATI HD 4890 1gb DDDR5 - 12.5k ( Equivalent to Nvidia GTX 275 @ 14k )
Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 310 - 1.5k
SMPS - Corsair VX 450 - 4.1k
Monitor - Benq G2200HD - 8k
Total - 50k
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07-12-2009, 11:00 AM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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hey thanks.
But i was thinking what was the harm in intels motherboard.
either DP55KG or DP55WB
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There is nothing wrong with the Intel boards. But they are not designed for the advance users. Overclocking and other advance features and tweaks are not supported in those motherboards.
On the other hand broads from ASUS, GIgabyte etc are specially designed for advanced users. They support overclocking and have special hardware design to support overclocking in larger extent. Their BIOS is advanced and user can easily tweak the system from BIOS. Some boards have have special features like One switch optimization (A switch in Mobo that can perform 25% overclocking directly without changing anything in BIOS). So better go for these mobos rather than Intel.
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07-12-2009, 11:39 AM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
+1 for Cilus Intel Solution..and you should definitely go for Gigagyte mobo than Intel mobo..
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07-12-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
i'd suggest amd solution cuz you could squeeze in a better graphics card in your budget.
and for graphics card Graphics card - ATI HD 4890 1gb DDDR5
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07-12-2009, 01:11 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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Originally Posted by Anubis
Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz) - 10.2k
Mobo - GA-P55M-UD2 - 6.7k
Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k
HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200.12 - 2.3k
Graphics card - ATI HD 4890 1gb DDDR5 - 12.5k ( Equivalent to Nvidia GTX 275 @ 14k )
Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 310 - 1.5k
SMPS - Corsair VX 450 - 4.1k
Monitor - Benq G2200HD - 8k
Total - 50k
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This seems the best to me. He is more future proof vs the AMD rig. Plus he can OC the i5 and get it whooping fast. The VX450 should be able to hold up.
Hail Corsair....!
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07-12-2009, 02:03 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
Someone said to me that the speed of intel mobo is better then other mobo in the market
iS ThiS TRUE ¿¿¿¿
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Originally Posted by Anubis
Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz) - 10.2k
Mobo - GA-P55M-UD2 - 6.7k
Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k
HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200.12 - 2.3k
Graphics card - ATI HD 4890 1gb DDDR5 - 12.5k ( Equivalent to Nvidia GTX 275 @ 14k )
Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 310 - 1.5k
SMPS - Corsair VX 450 - 4.1k
Monitor - Benq G2200HD - 8k
Total - 50k
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Hey Thanks.
But i dont feel like spending too much money on G CARD.
i'VE decided on the following system, pls. Give your comments on how is it.
I dont require a hDd 'coz i have internal 500GB WD
Specs :-
Core i5
GA-P55 UD3R
Zebronics antibiotic OR reapex
1TB xTERNAL WD
Corsair 2x2GB DDR3
nVIDIA 9600GT
Samsung 2043SW
So guys pls. Gimme your suggestion on the above specs
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07-12-2009, 02:16 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
Get 2033SW or 2233SW. You seem not to mention the SMPS. Get Corsair VX450W @ 4k. Please dont compromise on this component as you may end up burning your rig one day and regret spending less on the PSU. 9600GT? What? I think a better option would be to get GTS250 @ 7k or GTX260 SONIC @ 10.5k.
Remember to whack that noob who misinformed you about Intel mobo's being faster.  No, Intel boards are the worst in terms of features, but are stable. It is not worth it spending more than 6k on a board without any advanced features. Gigavyte P55M-UD2 is your best bet.
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07-12-2009, 02:44 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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Originally Posted by -=[DDS]=-
Someone said to me that the speed of intel mobo is better then other mobo in the market
But i dont feel like spending too much money on G CARD.
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Intel Mobo Faster: NO
Graphics Card: Will you / do you game..?
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07-12-2009, 02:52 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
Quote:
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Someone said to me that the speed of intel mobo is better then other mobo in the market
iS ThiS TRUE ¿¿¿¿
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Hey Thanks.
But i dont feel like spending too much money on G CARD.
i'VE decided on the following system, pls. Give your comments on how is it.
I dont require a hDd 'coz i have internal 500GB WD
Specs :-
Core i5
GA-P55 UD3R
Zebronics antibiotic OR reapex
1TB xTERNAL WD
Corsair 2x2GB DDR3
nVIDIA 9600GT
Samsung 2043SW
So guys pls. Gimme your suggestion on the above specs
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There we go. First you say a budget of 40k-50k and then back out
CM Elite cabinets are much better than Zebronics Cabby anyday.
Moreover Gigabyte P55 UD2 - 6.7k is ok , you don't need to spend extra moolah on UD3
Intel mobo are not at all faster. Not at all Overclockable and not at all VFM
I changed the rig . Have a look
Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz) - 10.2k
Mobo - GA-P55M-UD2 - 6.7k
Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k
HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200.12 - 2.3k
Graphics card - ATI HD 4850 512mb DDDR3 - 6.5k
Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 310 - 1.5k
SMPS - Gigabyte 460w - 2.2k ( Since i know u r bending toward elcheapo psu )
Monitor - Benq G2200HD - 8k (VFM)
Total - 42k
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^^
The OP does not seem interested to game. He said does not want to spend that much on a card. Heck what does the OP actually want...?
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07-12-2009, 04:12 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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i want a high-end SYSTEM with a gr8 multi-tasking capabalities & for ANIMATION {running high softs like MAYA, 3D MAX} & FOR WATCHING HD MOVIES.
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This is what OP wants and I suggest a minimum of GTS250 as it has CUDA which helps in rendering AFAIK, even better would be GTX 260 SONIC @ 10.5k. Correct me if I am wrong.
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07-12-2009, 04:21 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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This is what OP wants and I suggest a minimum of GTS250 as it has CUDA which helps in rendering AFAIK, even better would be GTX 260 SONIC @ 10.5k. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Since the OP wants 1GB Nvidia gfx 4000-5000
i assume , he is a noobish casual gamer .
Don't fall for 1GB is better becoz , your 1GB will be limited by 128 bit ,
Correct me if i am wrong
I think MSI ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB DDR3 (R4670 2D1G D3) - 4.5k
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-MS..._C45P4754.html
There you go OP , are u happy now?
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07-12-2009, 04:25 PM
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So he wants high - end, but does not want to spend on a graphics card. A HD4650 would do better. Krow, I think even your suggestion would be too high for the OP. Where is the OP..?
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07-12-2009, 04:30 PM
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Well, I think an AMD solution would be much better then. The onboard graphics are much better, considering that Intel has none. So no need to spend on GPU at all. I wish Intel would roll out some G55 boards.
AMD CPU's will do the job almost as well as Core i5 and will be much cheaper too.
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07-12-2009, 06:27 PM
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Listen DDS, if u r not a hard core gamer, u dont need to spend money on Gfx card but get at least 1 GB 9800 GT then. U will get a lot of help while running ur editing and animation softwares. Go for my Intel solution without the Gfx card suggested.
9800 GT 1 GB will be around 7k.
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Hey why does everybody who has given me the specs are suggesting TRANSCEND, isnt CORSAIR good also ??? {not offending on anybody}.i M thinking to buy a CORSAIR
RAM.& as far as i know CORSAIR gives best perfomance then TRANSCEND, isnt it ??
i m interested in watching HD MOVIES & doing ANIMATION {working on softs like MAYA, 3DS MAX, ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR, PREMIER PRO, etc} WORK
Playing casual games.
So pls. suggset G cards for that purpose only, not for hard-core gaming.
One more question which i cant get answer for.
Graphic Cards are made by nVIDIA or ATI.
So why does SAPPHIRE or MSI or PALIT, etc are added before the nVIDIA or ATI CARDS ????
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Get 2033SW or 2233SW. You seem not to mention the SMPS. Get Corsair VX450W @ 4k. Please dont compromise on this component as you may end up burning your rig one day and regret spending less on the PSU. 9600GT? What? I think a better option would be to get GTS250 @ 7k or GTX260 SONIC @ 10.5k.
Remember to whack that noob who misinformed you about Intel mobo's being faster.  No, Intel boards are the worst in terms of features, but are stable. It is not worth it spending more than 6k on a board without any advanced features. Gigavyte P55M-UD2 is your best bet.
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As i dint have a lot of info on PSU, so i dint mention any.
But thanks anway, i will go for PSU, u mentioned.
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Intel Mobo Faster: NO
Graphics Card: Will you / do you game..?
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I m NOT A hard-core gamer.
i Just to like play games.Whether it has quality or it doest have it, i dont care as long asi m able to play it without any probs.i Can set the resolution to 800x600 if the game hangs or gives poor perfomance.
& with the pro & RAM i m taking it would atleast work fine yaar.
i dont want HIGH-END QUALITY GRAPHICS & all those stuff, so i do not intend to purchase a good G card.
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Originally Posted by Anubis
There we go. First you say a budget of 40k-50k and then back out
CM Elite cabinets are much better than Zebronics Cabby anyday.
Moreover Gigabyte P55 UD2 - 6.7k is ok , you don't need to spend extra moolah on UD3
Intel mobo are not at all faster. Not at all Overclockable and not at all VFM
I changed the rig . Have a look
Cpu - Intel core i5-750 (2.66Ghz) - 10.2k
Mobo - GA-P55M-UD2 - 6.7k
Ram - Transcend 2x2gb 1333mhz ddr3 - 5.2k
HDD - Seagate 500gb 7200.12 - 2.3k
Graphics card - ATI HD 4850 512mb DDDR3 - 6.5k
Cabinet - Cooler Master Elite 310 - 1.5k
SMPS - Gigabyte 460w - 2.2k ( Since i know u r bending toward elcheapo psu )
Monitor - Benq G2200HD - 8k (VFM)
Total - 42k
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My budget is still around 40-42000, but i dont feel to much spending on GPU. As i dont need it.U can see my above reply.
As for CM or Zebronics, i am planning zebronics 'coz it has LCD DISPLAY for TEMP & other stuff.
Which CM doesnt have that stuff.
U could chk out here:
http://www.zebronics.net/Zeb_Reaper_T.asp
http://www.zebronics.net/Zeb_Antibiotic.asp
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^^
The OP does not seem interested to game. He said does not want to spend that much on a card. Heck what does the OP actually want...?
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yup i m not interested in HARD-CORE GAMING.
i m interested in watching HD MOVIES & doing ANIMATION WORK
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Originally Posted by Krow
This is what OP wants and I suggest a minimum of GTS250 as it has CUDA which helps in rendering AFAIK, even better would be GTX 260 SONIC @ 10.5k. Correct me if I am wrong.
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if it is going to help me then surely i will consider this card.
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Originally Posted by Anubis
Since the OP wants 1GB Nvidia gfx 4000-5000
i assume , he is a noobish casual gamer .
Don't fall for 1GB is better becoz , your 1GB will be limited by 128 bit ,
Correct me if i am wrong
I think MSI ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB DDR3 (R4670 2D1G D3) - 4.5k
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-MS..._C45P4754.html
There you go OP , are u happy now?
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yup i m happy but is it enough for the things i want to do ????
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Originally Posted by Krow
Well, I think an AMD solution would be much better then. The onboard graphics are much better, considering that Intel has none. So no need to spend on GPU at all. I wish Intel would roll out some G55 boards.
AMD CPU's will do the job almost as well as Core i5 and will be much cheaper too.
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i dont like AMD
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Originally Posted by Cilus
Listen DDS, if u r not a hard core gamer, u dont need to spend money on Gfx card but get at least 1 GB 9800 GT then. U will get a lot of help while running ur editing and animation softwares. Go for my Intel solution without the Gfx card suggested.
9800 GT 1 GB will be around 7k.
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Hey thanks.
But im confused, which one to choose the one KROW told, Anubis told OR the one u are telling, i.e. GTS 250 or ATI RADEON HD 4850 or 9800GT
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
1st of all dont post in red it hurts the eye
Radeon 4850 will be good enough for you
why?could you plz elaborate.
you will be missing out on a good deal because of your illogical dislike for amd
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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1st of all dont post in red it hurts the eye
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am sorry, wont do it again
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Radeon 4850 will be good enough for you
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THANKS, i will go for it only then.
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why?could you plz elaborate.
you will be missing out on a good deal because of your illogical dislike for amd
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its just becoz, i fell iNTEL HAS GR8 CPUS OVER AMD.
Moreover i coudnt find very good CPU in AMD compared with i5.
& AMD has very low CACHE as compared to intel.
intel i5 has 8MB L2 CACHE
whereas AMD has 512k*cores, or something like that.
& Currently i m having very bad experience with AMD.
i had purchased around 1.5 yrs ago.
i had AMD ATHLON 3000+
At that time i was getting intel C2D @ same price i purchased AMD, but my frnd told me that intel PROCESSORS get HEAT very quickly so i decided to buy AMD.
with AmD i had ASUS M2N-MX MOBO & it gave very WORST PERFOMANCE.
The pro & mobo both were very bad.
Currently my ASUS mobo is NOT WORKING & N UNREPAIRABLE FORMAT.
So with that i decided to SWITCH TO INTEL, even if i had to pay few bucks xtra.
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07-12-2009, 09:14 PM
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its just becoz, i fell iNTEL HAS GR8 CPUS OVER AMD.
Moreover i coudnt find very good CPU in AMD compared with i5.
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In fact, AMD gives much more bang for buck over most Intel offerings.
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& AMD has very low CACHE as compared to intel.
intel i5 has 8MB L2 CACHE
whereas AMD has 512k*cores, or something like that.
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Even the most advanced processor on the planet does not have more than 100 cores, from where did you hear that AMD has 512 cores and has very low cache? IfIntle is 8MB, then AMD is 6, which is by no means low.
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& Currently i m having very bad experience with AMD.
i had purchased around 1.5 yrs ago.
i had AMD ATHLON 3000+
At that time i was getting intel C2D @ same price i purchased AMD, but my frnd told me that intel PROCESSORS get HEAT very quickly so i decided to buy AMD.
with AmD i had ASUS M2N-MX MOBO & it gave very WORST PERFOMANCE.
The pro & mobo both were very bad.
Currently my ASUS mobo is NOT WORKING & N UNREPAIRABLE FORMAT.
So with that i decided to SWITCH TO INTEL, even if i had to pay few bucks xtra.
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So far, Ive noticed that you have taken advice from the wrong kind of people, those who told you that Intel motherboards are faster and that Intel overheats a lot. Instead of blaming any particular brand for it, you should blame the people whom you listen to.
Currently, AMD is just a pace off Intel. For your work, yes Intel Core i5 is suitable. Since you mentioned Premiere Pro, use CS4 version with badaboom plugin which helps suitably in rendering if you have GT200 series GPU, like GTX260 SONIC @ 10.5k, so go for it. Minimum GTS250 512MB @ 7k, which will not help as much, but still the GPU can be used for rendering. None of the ATI offerings will give you that much gain. The DX11 variants by ATI are overpriced, so they are out. The most VFM ones are the ones I mentioned.
Please don't post random statements which you have no proper knowledge about. If you make a claim, please support it with a link and not with what you think. Posts like I don't like AMD, without any reasons and that too in red fonts will only serve to irritate other forum members. We don't want that, do we? So, please from next time, be careful about your posts. 
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If you ask me, for the performance difference, AMD Phenom II X4 945 @ 8.5k is a much better buy than the i5. AMD is slower, yes, but not by a HUGE margin and its price tag is much more sensible than the i5.
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07-12-2009, 09:23 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
for your budget, AMD would be the best bet and if you can sacrifice on GPU, go for core i5.
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07-12-2009, 09:49 PM
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Then if you really want Intel, the go for the i5 setup that has been suggested. It is a good buy. It is fast, and will suffice for your needs. For GPU go for the ATI 4850. It is mid-level GPU, and you will get to game well at the same time.
Regarding RAM, Corsair is a good brand too.
For PSU you can get the VX450 or any other 450W you prefer. 450W will keep you going well. Please do not get a cheap PSU, else al will go into the trash bin.
You can get that if you want. I think enough recommendations have been made here.
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08-12-2009, 09:33 AM
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Even the most advanced processor on the planet does not have more than 100 cores, from where did you hear that AMD has 512 cores and has very low cache? IfIntle is 8MB, then AMD is 6, which is by no means low.
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i m not talking about 512 cores.
it is 512k cache, per core.
i.e. 512k*core {talking in terms of cache
so thats if AMD PROCESSORS have 4 COREs then it would be 512*4 = 2mb L2 caChE.
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Since you mentioned Premiere Pro, use CS4 version with badaboom plugin which helps suitably in rendering if you have GT200 series GPU, like GTX260 SONIC @ 10.5k, so go for it. Minimum GTS250 512MB @ 7k, which will not help as much, but still the GPU can be used for rendering. None of the ATI offerings will give you that much gain. The DX11 variants by ATI are overpriced, so they are out. The most VFM ones are the ones I mentioned.
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i Just cant understand one thing.
Can anybody pls. explain to me, that:
There are 2 MAJOR GRAPHIC CARD COMPANIES i.e NVIDIA & ATI.
Mostof all cards are made by them only.
SO why is everybody putting other brand names in front of ther G card.eg. SONIC, MSI, PALIT, etc ????
krow in your suggestion also u mentioned GTX260 SONIC WHICH is mde by nvidia, but why does SONIC comes, why desnt nvidia ?????
PlS. can anybody xplain these to me ????
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08-12-2009, 09:38 AM
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Then if you really want Intel, the go for the i5 setup that has been suggested. It is a good buy. It is fast, and will suffice for your needs. For GPU go for the ATI 4850. It is mid-level GPU, and you will get to game well at the same time.
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Asigh, u r not getting the point. Surely HD 4850 is a great card for gaming, but it won't help DDS for the works he mentioned (Editing, animation etc). Thats why we are suggesting Nvidia cards over ATI cards.
And DDS go for GTS 250 512MB or 9800GT 1 GB. GTS 250 will give you better performance is gaming, but in the works you have mentioned there will hardly be any difference.
In Editing work Graphics card memory size matters a lot. That's why I've suggested the 1 GB version. Now its up to you.
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08-12-2009, 09:45 AM
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Ok...
nVidia and ATI make the 'cores' of the cards. These cores are then handed over to OEMs (the companies you listed) -- XFX, BFG, EVGA, Sapphire, Powercolor, Palit, ASUS to name a view. These companies then fabricate the complete GPU (RAM,PCB, cooler, ICs) and we get the complete GPU.
Also at times nVidia and ATI make cards, but these are 'reference models', which are generally used for paper launches and handed over to various organizations for testing/marketing purposes.
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Asigh, u r not getting the point. Surely HD 4850 is a great card for gaming, but it won't help DDS for the works he mentioned (Editing, animation etc). Thats why we are suggesting Nvidia cards over ATI cards.
And DDS go for GTS 250 512MB or 9800GT 1 GB. GTS 250 will give you better performance is gaming, but in the works you have mentioned there will hardly be any difference.
In Editing work Graphics card memory size matters a lot. That's why I've suggested the 1 GB version. Now its up to you.
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Please could you tell me, where you read that nVidia gamer cards are better for editing compared to ATI gamer cards. Not talking about Quadro and FireGL..?
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08-12-2009, 11:12 AM
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Please could you tell me, where you read that nVidia gamer cards are better for editing compared to ATI gamer cards. Not talking about Quadro and FireGL..?
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No, I'm not talking about FireGL or Quadro basedcards. They are specially designed card for supporting editing and server activities in Hardware level.
Here I'm talking about normal graphics cards which can be used
for editing and other creative works by using software. Nvidia CUDA and ATI stream are actually two software libraries or API designed to a sole purpose: Converting the Graphics cards to a more CPU like thing which will help you to assist in
your day to day work, not only gaming.
Now CUDA is much mature than ATI stream. As a result most of the editing and designing softwares are having CUDA support whereas very few have ATI stream support.
For example Adobe flash, photoshop, 3D studio MAX, Maya, TMPGENC (for editing and converting), Cyberlink software all having CUDA supprt. So while running all of thyem, you will get a performance boost if using Nvidia Card.
That's why I've suggested Nvidia based cards.
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08-12-2009, 12:02 PM
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Re: NEW COMP QUERY
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No, I'm not talking about FireGL or Quadro basedcards. They are specially designed card for supporting editing and server activities in Hardware level.
Here I'm talking about normal graphics cards which can be used
for editing and other creative works by using software. Nvidia CUDA and ATI stream are actually two software libraries or API designed to a sole purpose: Converting the Graphics cards to a more CPU like thing which will help you to assist in
your day to day work, not only gaming.
Now CUDA is much mature than ATI stream. As a result most of the editing and designing softwares are having CUDA support whereas very few have ATI stream support.
For example Adobe flash, photoshop, 3D studio MAX, Maya, TMPGENC (for editing and converting), Cyberlink software all having CUDA supprt. So while running all of thyem, you will get a performance boost if using Nvidia Card.
That's why I've suggested Nvidia based cards.
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Even I did not say you are talking about the FireGL and Quadro cards. Stop coming in here, and making blanket statements, and stuff like.."you do not see the point". When you show the point, that is when users will see it right.
So let me show you my point:
Yes you are right, that CUDA is more mature. But even CUDA was not invented by nVidia. It is technology shared from Elemental Badaboom. Post 8.12 CCC Drivers (last year December), ATI Stream has grown by leaps and bounds. It is not a complete looser in this field. Here are some performance reviews of Stream vs CUDA. You will clearly see that ATI Stream is fairing just as well, and at times even beating CUDA.
It successfully offloads the task to the GPU.
You will also read in the same reviews, that ATI is offering support for most 3D applications.
1. http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=6
2. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3475&p=1
And personally I feel, if the OP really wants a card for 3D work (professional level), then gamer cards will never cut the ice. Rest is upto the OP to decide.
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