Need help in buying CPU, MOBO, RAM . Whats the best one can get at 20k ???

[MambaXL]

Hi guys,

I need some advice for buying 3 items.
CPU, Motherboard & RAM.
My budget ~20k, but not more than that.

I will be using these components in my current build (will sell the above 3 - get a quote please ??)

Existing Rig:

CPU: C2D E6400 @ 2.13 GHz
ASUS P5B-VM
2x1GB RAM
XFX GTX 260-Core192
1TB HDD
Corsair VX-450W PSU
Windows 7 Home Premium x64

System Usage :

Primary --> Gaming.
Secondary --> Stable System that would handle heavy tasks at ease.

P.S :: I dont Overclock, RAID or Multi-GPU.

Please help me decide. I live in Bhubaneswar, but can travel to hyd and/or kolkata for the stuffs. I intend to buy these this fall.

[furious_gamer]

^^

Phenom II X4 940 @ 9.5k or 945 @ 10.3k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H @ 5.5k
3x1 GB DDR3 1333MHz @ 5k

Well good for the purpose you've mentioned...

[MambaXL]

And if I am going for an intel equivalent, what am i going to get @ 20k ?

[Krow]

Originally Posted by rajkumar_pb

^^

Phenom II X4 940 @ 9.5k or 945 @ 10.3k
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H @ 5.5k
3x1 GB DDR3 1333MHz @ 5k

Well good for the purpose you've mentioned...

+1, but no need for 3x1GB as AMD does not support Tri channel AFAIK. OP can do better with 2x2GB. Again, prices in Mumbai and Kolkata at least are 9.5k for Phenom II X4 955BE and 8.5k for 945.

Originally Posted by MambaXL

And if I am going for an intel equivalent, what am i going to get @ 20k ?

Intel Core i5 750 @ 10.5k
Gigabyte P55M UD2 @ 7k
2x2GB DDR3 @ 5k (try getting good brands like Corsair, OCZ, G-skill)

My vote lies with Core i5 due to better performance.

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by Krow

+1, but no need for 3x1GB as AMD does not support Tri channel AFAIK. OP can do better with 2x2GB. Again, prices in Mumbai and Kolkata at least are 9.5k for Phenom II X4 955BE and 8.5k for 945.


Intel Core i5 750 @ 10.5k
Gigabyte P55M UD2 @ 7k
2x2GB DDR3 @ 5k (try getting good brands like Corsair, OCZ, G-skill)

My vote lies with Core i5 due to better performance.

The prices are based on Chennai...

What performance gain do you got in i5 over x4? Any links to prove that?

[Krow]

http://www.techspot.com/review/193-i...750/page7.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...5,2410-12.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...orei7870/8.htm
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html

All about apps.

http://www.techspot.com/review/193-i...750/page9.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...orei7870/9.htm (many games here , see all)
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-18.html

Add to the mix better power consumption too, all to be found in above mentioned links.

[furious_gamer]

^^ Looks like a solid proof..

[Krow]

^That's Google power for you. I found all the results in the first page. I hope you don't mind me suggesting Google to some other users with very basic queries now, would you?

[asingh]

Originally Posted by Krow

http://www.techspot.com/review/193-i...750/page7.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...5,2410-12.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...orei7870/8.htm
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html

All about apps.

http://www.techspot.com/review/193-i...750/page9.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...orei7870/9.htm (many games here , see all)
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-18.html

Add to the mix better power consumption too, all to be found in above mentioned links.

Thanks for this stuff man. Noticed the bad-boy Q9550 (which I will get soon), is near to the i5. Puts a small grin on my face....thanks.

[Krow]

asigh The Q9550 is still a great upgrade option for all LGA775 users. Go ahead and grab it.

[asingh]

Will do both together....Dell 24" and the above.

Am almost there. My new year gift to myself..!

[Krow]

Lynx has the Dell 24" in stock IIRC, else you can still order it from the TE deal I had linked you to previously. 12,750 with shipping IIRC. Good gift that is.

[Cilus]

There is an another price drop last week for the AMD processors. So I'm suggesting a new config for 20k budget.

AMD Phenom II 955 @ 8.5k
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO CrossfireX DDR3 M/B @ 6.7k
2X2 GB Transcend DDR3 1333MHz RAM @ 2.6X2=5.2k

The total price is 20.4k. At this price this is a killer deal. unlike the Phenom II 945, Phenom II 955 is a Black Edition processor, so a hell of a overclocker. Performance wise it is better than Q9550, priced at 11k.

The above prices are based on my last visit to the Kolkata Computer market, Chandni Chalk.

[Krow]

Originally Posted by rajkumar_pb

^^
Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H @ 5.5k

Did not notice before , but this board is DDR2. A DDR3 board has been suggested below.

Originally Posted by Cilus

There is an another price drop last week for the AMD processors. So I'm suggesting a new config for 20k budget.

AMD Phenom II 955 @ 8.5k
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO CrossfireX DDR3 M/B @ 6.7k
2X2 GB Transcend DDR3 1333MHz RAM @ 2.6X2=5.2k

The total price is 20.4k. At this price this is a killer deal. unlike the Phenom II 945, Phenom II 955 is a Black Edition processor, so a hell of a overclocker. Performance wise it is better than Q9550, priced at 11k.

The above prices are based on my last visit to the Kolkata Computer market, Chandni Chalk.

Erm... May I say that the ASUS Board is not great for CF as IIRC it supports CF in x4 mode and not in x8. So its not a good board for CF. I would alternatively suggest Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @ 5.5k. OP may then invest in better RAM's as in my experience, Transcend RAM's are really crap. Failed on me twice. Kingston has been more reliable for me, but I would recommend some good ones like G-skill/Corsair/OCZ.

If you have a look at the performance of the OCed i5 in the links Ive provided, then you may tilt slightly in favour of it.

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by Krow

Did not notice before , but this board is DDR2. A DDR3 board has been suggested below.

Oops, thats the MA785GMT one...
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Originally Posted by Krow

^That's Google power for you. I found all the results in the first page. I hope you don't mind me suggesting Google to some other users with very basic queries now, would you?

Even i googled it before but not got any acceptable reviews. Thats why i asked you.

[Cilus]

Erm... May I say that the ASUS Board is not great for CF as IIRC it supports CF in x4 mode and not in x8. So its not a good board for CF. I would alternatively suggest Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H @ 5.5k. OP may then invest in better RAM's as in my experience, Transcend RAM's are really crap. Failed on me twice. Kingston has been more reliable for me, but I would recommend some good ones like G-skill/Corsair/OCZ.

The price of Kingston ram is same as Transcend. So you can also go for Kingston one.

[MambaXL]

OK. how much is the real time performance gain [no over-clock] between i7-860 and i5-750 ? And is it worth the extra money ? because anyway, both are DDR3 and LGA-1156. And 1 more thing, what is the difference between uATX and ATX boards, AFA longevity is concerned ??

[asingh]

^^ Not answering the above...

[puneetgarg]

wow man....quite a powerful PC can be made these days in 20k
well i must really lookout for my rig too...i think now its too outdated

[Krow]

i5 750 is a real VFM proccy @ 10k. I dunno price of i7 860 so I wont comment on that.

ATX boards are better due to larger size and hence more features. Nowadays uATX boards also have 4 RAM slots so that is not a major difference. Full ATX boards have SLI/CF support sometimes (multiple GPU support). The form factor does not matter as much as board features. Look for 4 ram slots, minimum 6 SATA ports, HDMI, eSATA, etc.

[asingh]

^^
@P.Garg

1. Change your CPU core + GPU.
2. Upgrade to 2 x 2GB RAM
3. Install a 64BIT OS.

You have a powerful rig......................!

Again:
What PSU you have...?
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@Krow @P.Garg regarding i5 vs i7:

Read some reviews on i5 vs i7. I will not comment my views on this --- last time there was a mini flame war on...!

[Krow]

^Was it a flame war? I thought it was more like an exchange of knowledge.

[asingh]

^^

We never reached a consensus. Why clutter this thread. Anyone who needs XX vs XX can read it themselves, so much stuff out there. Same with GPU comparisons. Am staying far from this.

[puneetgarg]

Originally Posted by asigh

^^
@P.Garg

1. Change your CPU core + GPU.
2. Upgrade to 2 x 2GB RAM
3. Install a 64BIT OS.

You have a powerful rig......................!

Again:
What PSU you have...?
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@Krow @P.Garg regarding i5 vs i7:

Read some reviews on i5 vs i7. I will not comment my views on this --- last time there was a mini flame war on...!

but i guess a 64Bit is not supported on my PC
rather sometimes it shows 86bit can it be true...
btw thanks for the compliment
and well i cant already change my pc config since i bought a lappy a couple of months ago so my parents wont allow upgrading yet

[Krow]

x86 means 32 bits. x64 is 64bits. x64 allows usage of RAM beyond 3.25GB in Windows. x86 limits ram to 3.25gb.

[vickybat]

The difference between i5 750 & i7 860 is hyperthreading which the latter supports.
Though this depends on the code to be processed i.e if it can be handled by virtual cores.
The i7 860 also has higher clockspeed than the i5 @ 2.8ghz so should perform better.
It retails for around 14.5k therefore making the i5 better vfm.

But if enhanced multicore performance matters go with the i7.

@ MambaXL
For the mobo the gigabyte is great but if you do not want to overclock then the intel dp55wb also makes sense at 6.3k but has fewer connectivity options.Regarding availability you can get them in bhubaneshwar as i have already ordered the i5 along with the intel board from in bbsr.

You can contact me through my mail (vickybat999@gmail.com)

[furious_gamer]

^^
Dont get a intel board. Cost-to-cost other brands kicks intels a$$ and regarding the features, all others except intel offer good features. Also intel is not a VFM one....

[puneetgarg]

Originally Posted by Krow

x86 means 32 bits. x64 is 64bits. x64 allows usage of RAM beyond 3.25GB in Windows. x86 limits ram to 3.25gb.

but bro im not able to install any 64bit windows why is it so

[vickybat]

But whitesberg aka intel dp55wb is an exception.It has adequate no. solid state capacitors ensuring better longevity,offers good built quality and is great vfm.It only loses in some connectivity options and also isnt recommended for oc and again intel doesnt develop or officially support boards that oc well and thats deliberate.

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by puneetgarg

but bro im not able to install any 64bit windows why is it so

Thats weird. Try installing Win 7 64 bit.

Originally Posted by vickybat

But whitesberg aka intel dp55wb is an exception.It has adequate no. solid state capacitors ensuring better longevity,offers good built quality and is great vfm.It only loses in some connectivity options and also isnt recommended for oc and again intel doesnt develop or officially support boards that oc well and thats deliberate.

Well the mobo looks rock-solid. But at the same price point, Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 (rev. 1.0) looks great. XFire support, and much more. Have a look at specs and you wont look after intel..