Am I being Ripped off here?

[Tech_Wiz]

I went shopping for Hardware in Pune and see what I got.

GTS 250 with 512MB DDR3 from Some Brand "TAG"/? for Rs 8500
HDD Seagate 500 gb : Rs 2550
Kingston 2 GB DDR2: Rs 1850
Cooler Master 500W PSU: Rs. 3500

these prices are way higher than what I am seeing on itwares.com. So is the site not updated or I am being ripped here?

[rohan_mhtr]

Originally Posted by Tech_Wiz

I went shopping for Hardware in Pune and see what I got.

GTS 250 with 512MB DDR3 from Some Brand "TAG"/? for Rs 8500
HDD Seagate 500 gb : Rs 2550
Kingston 2 GB DDR2: Rs 1850
Cooler Master 500W PSU: Rs. 3500

these prices are way higher than what I am seeing on itwares.com. So is the site not updated or I am being ripped here?

YA DUDE !!!
The palit gts 250 comes for around Rs 7350 , which one is yours .
Way too much for kingston ram , what frequency is it ?
Hdd price is ok , but i purchased a coolermaster 500w psu on this sunday itself and it cost me Rs 2750 here in Navi mumbai .

[Tech_Wiz]

Ram is 800 Mhz

The Brand for the gfx is "TAG"

I suspected this so I have not bought it from him yet.

Any good dealer in Pune area who can give me real good stuff for right price?

[raj_v1982]

never heard of TAG

go for palit

[Tech_Wiz]

YES BUT I NEED A DEALER IN PUNE URGENTLY !!!

[saqib_khan]

Dude, never ever go for TAG. Go for Palit or Zotac.

[comp@ddict]

Order a HD4770 instead from Lynx india(with arctic accelero cooling) for 7.4k Only...

[Cool G5]

TAG is not a good brand better get Palit or Zotac.

[Xeno]

Also Coolermaster Extreme Power should be much lesser than the Real Power Pro.

I got the CM Real Power Pro 460W (80+ Cert) for 3.5k, the extreme 500W shouldn't cost that high. RAM (unless its from the value series) and HDD prices are okay.

[The Sorcerer]

Daylight robbery . Maybe I should join this business. Give good components and earn money. Although its not my cup of tea, you spent 3.5k for an obsolete psu. Its a good thing (keeping the crowd's mentality in mind- no pun intended- that's the smartest thing you did) you consulted before buying.

[Krow]

Originally Posted by raj_v1982

never heard of TAG
go for palit

Originally Posted by saqib_khan

Dude, never ever go for TAG. Go for Palit or Zotac.

Originally Posted by Cool G5

TAG is not a good brand better get Palit or Zotac.

+1 to all.

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

Order a HD4770 instead from Lynx india(with arctic accelero cooling) for 7.4k Only...

Don't go for this one. It consumes lesser power, but GTS250 is cheaper @ 7.3k AND performs better. You may check benchmarks if you want.

Originally Posted by Xeno

Also Coolermaster Extreme Power should be much lesser than the Real Power Pro. I got the CM Real Power Pro 460W (80+ Cert) for 3.5k, the extreme 500W shouldn't cost that high. RAM (unless its from the value series) and HDD prices are okay.

Get the CM REAL Power Pro (not EXTREME power, which sucks) 460W @ 3.5k. Its great. I suggest that if you can't find a good dealer in Pune, order from www.theitwares.com in Lamington Road, Mumbai. They ship to Pune for Rs. 150 extra, but rest assured, you will get good prices and he is a reliable dealer. You can find some of his deals @ www.techenclave.com/dealers-paradise

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Tech_Wiz

Any good dealer in Pune area who can give me real good stuff for right price?

STech computers. Best place in Pune from my own experience.

F-14. 1st Floor, Paresh Industrial Estate
45/2 Shankersheth Road, Pune - 411037

Phone: 26446622, 26446625

[Ambar]

Do keep in mind that the RAM prices have increased considerably.....but yes since the other prices are this guy might be quoting quite a bit higher...

[comp@ddict]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

Don't go for this one. It consumes lesser power, but GTS250 is cheaper @ 7.3k AND performs better. You may check benchmarks if you want.

HD4770 has about 80W power consumption
GTS 250 has 141W power consumption

The difference in fps in games btwn these two cards is about 1-5 max. I think HD4770 apart from being highly overclockable, and having a low power consumption, also has NON-Reference cooler too...

[Krow]

But that's the point, a GPU's power is judged in terms of its performance not OCability. About the power consumption, if he gets the CM Real Power Pro 460W, then there should be no probs running the GTS 250 whatsoever. At stock, the GTS 250 is better. What are the OC power consumption values of the 4770?

The reference cooler is enough for the GTS 250. Nothing worth paying more for the HD4770. FYI, a rig with i7 965 oced to 3.75GHz and 5850 in crossfire consumes like 365W of power. So I don't think power consumption is of that great an importance here.

[hell_storm2006]

Mail compuciti. Their prices are pretty ok. I dropped them a mail and got a reply after a day. The prices were way better than what your dealer said.

[comp@ddict]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

But that's the point, a GPU's power is judged in terms of its performance not OCability. About the power consumption, if he gets the CM Real Power Pro 460W, then there should be no probs running the GTS 250 whatsoever. At stock, the GTS 250 is better. What are the OC power consumption values of the 4770?

The reference cooler is enough for the GTS 250. Nothing worth paying more for the HD4770. FYI, a rig with i7 965 oced to 3.75GHz and 5850 in crossfire consumes like 365W of power. So I don't think power consumption is of that great an importance here.

LOL so u think u can run a i7 965 + HD5850 CFx on the Gigabyte 460W...

If so, then u hav a lot to learn about power supply, TDP and their affect on product life, dependency on cabinet temperature filter and cooling, the overall life of the entire system and so on.....

[Krow]

^Erm.. When did I say anything about the Gigabyte 460W??? All I can see is that as long as he has a good PSU, he can run his rig fine with the GTS250 which is better than the HD4770 at 7.3k.

Please do not talk as if you know tonnes about all the above stuff. The first thing which you must know is that TDP is not something which matters much as it has been overhyped by marketing teams. It is merely a spec for the drawing board when teams manufacture a product. If you really knew so much about all of these things, then please enlighten the forum with your bright knowledge O great comp@ddict, instead of trolling about the forum and telling other people that they have a lot to learn about stuff.

[comp@ddict]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

^Erm.. When did I say anything about the Gigabyte 460W??? All I can see is that as long as he has a good PSU, he can run his rig fine with the GTS250 which is better than the HD4770 at 7.3k.

Please do not talk as if you know tonnes about all the above stuff. The first thing which you must know is that TDP is not something which matters much as it has been overhyped by marketing teams. It is merely a spec for the drawing board when teams manufacture a product. If you really knew so much about all of these things, then please enlighten the forum with your bright knowledge O great comp@ddict, instead of trolling about the forum and telling other people that they have a lot to learn about stuff.

I was as ignorant as u one day...then a guy nickamed(he's a god) "Sorcy" taught me about Power and PSUs..bah ...humbug

[rohan_mhtr]

The cooler master PSU if it is extreme power then dont get it , but if it is extreme power plus then it would be fine . These are new series psu's and many people confuse them for extreme power series which is wrong .
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Originally Posted by comp@ddict

LOL so u think u can run a i7 965 + HD5850 CFx on the Gigabyte 460W...

Ya it would run and would be just fine for browsing net but not for playing games .

[Krow]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

I was as ignorant as u one day...then a guy nickamed(he's a god) "Sorcy" taught me about Power and PSUs..bah ...humbug

I won't waste my time arguing with arrogant and mannerless 15 year old kids anymore. I wish "Sorcy" had taught you some manners kid!

[comp@ddict]

Originally Posted by rohan_mhtr

Ya it would run and would be just fine for browsing net but not for playing games

LOL imagine a Core i7 and HD5850 X2 on a rig for browsing....

FYI - 'm not 15

[Tech_Wiz]

Coming back to Point.

I am buying Cosair VX450W. And I never SLI or vicevera so I guess this PSU can suffice most single cards out there.

Only damn thing is I am unable to find anyone from Mumbai to ship the parts to my place in Chinchwad-Pune. Itwares.com guy is not even replied to my mails which I sent twice

[Krow]

Originally Posted by ITWares.com

Contact - Rahul - 09223228195 / 022 - 65254360 /022 - 66587565 / 022 - 66587585

The VX450W is a great PSU, but I say, just for the sake of being future proof, please have a look at GlacialTech 650W and Antec EA650 both available @ around 4.5-5k. Its just 1k more and will ensure that you can run any system on it with ease. So, no need to upgrade PSU later. However the VX450W is a great choice IMO.

[rohan_mhtr]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

LOL imagine a Core i7 and HD5850 X2 on a rig for browsing....

FYI - 'm not 15

Dude !! whats wrong with u ? cant u understand a simple joke .
The threadstarter never said he is gonna upgrade his system with an i7 and crossfire it wit 5870 , he has particular set of hardware and he wants to know whats best and cheap for him . Its like someone wants a music system for his maruti and you are telling him to buy a ferrari !!

[Krow]

Originally Posted by rohan_mhtr

Dude !! whats wrong with u ? cant u understand a simple joke .
The threadstarter never said he is gonna upgrade his system with an i7 and crossfire it wit 5870 , he has particular set of hardware and he wants to know whats best and cheap for him . Its like someone wants a music system for his maruti and you are telling him to buy a ferrari !!

Please don't reply to his offtopic posts. Why are you encouraging him to go further offtopic just so that he can prove his point with some more "LOL... I am the king" posts?

[Xeno]

I am just not that sure about the coolermaster 460W Real Power Pro (the one to go for rather than extreme power) or VX450 Corsair. What is the maximum power that can be consumed on the rig ?

Let's say what would be the total power draw for all the components

Processor (OC'ed)
Motherboard + RAM
GPU (Oc'ed)
HDD ( 1 or more , depending on disk capacity)
Optical drive under load (DVD burning process / Continuous data transfer)
Cabinet fans

let's say Tech_wiz has a system suggested in here with either the real power pro or vx450, what would be total load on the PSU ? Its better to have some headroom for more juice, just in case. As techalomaniac suggested, a 650W PSU would be really the most one can need, even if you have dual GPU's and loads of HDD's.

I know im being paranoid by including the fans and optical drive

[asingh]

Hey..

Have been reading this thread past few days...am going to be really judgmental. Not sure if I have that authority. Well below are my comments:

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

LOL so u think u can run a i7 965 + HD5850 CFx on the Gigabyte 460W...

If so, then u hav a lot to learn about power supply, TDP and their affect on product life, dependency on cabinet temperature filter and cooling, the overall life of the entire system and so on.....

Why is this configuration even mentioned. The OPs system/future purchases are far from this. Does not make sense quoting i7 and 5xxxx (and that too Xfire)

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

I was as ignorant as u one day...then a guy nickamed(he's a god) "Sorcy" taught me about Power and PSUs..bah ...humbug

Yes, we all have gained knowledge somehow/somewhere. Though that does not mean, we got to be sarcastic to others about it.

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

LOL imagine a Core i7 and HD5850 X2 on a rig for browsing....

FYI - 'm not 15

Again no need to quote a configuration that is not even remotely to the OP.

Originally Posted by Xeno

I am just not that sure about the coolermaster 460W Real Power Pro (the one to go for rather than extreme power) or VX450 Corsair. What is the maximum power that can be consumed on the rig ?

Let's say what would be the total power draw for all the components

Processor (OC'ed)
Motherboard + RAM
GPU (Oc'ed)
HDD ( 1 or more , depending on disk capacity)
Optical drive under load (DVD burning process / Continuous data transfer)
Cabinet fans

let's say Tech_wiz has a system suggested in here with either the real power pro or vx450, what would be total load on the PSU ? Its better to have some headroom for more juice, just in case. As techalomaniac suggested, a 650W PSU would be really the most one can need, even if you have dual GPU's and loads of HDD's.

I know im being paranoid by including the fans and optical drive

Well Xeno, I have a saying "better to be paranoid then sorry". So lets draw up a power requirement chart for the OP:

CPU: 115W
RAM: 5W
GPU: 140W
HDD: 70W (2 @ 35w)
DVD - Burner: 15W
120MM Fan: 10W (2 @ 5W)
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Total: 355W

So as per this (and I have taken all upper limit approximations), a VX450 should be perfect for the OP. He still has head room for future plug-ins to his rig.

But I agree with you, a 650W supply is the better choice. With that, he will never have to live on the edge. With a 450W supply, once a couple devices are added, he will immediately reach his threshold. +++ As a rule with power requirements (be it PSU or UPS), the design should always have a +30% leeway to compensate for efficiency, heat loss, and future proofing.

[Krow]

^Agreed, but the VX450W is an exceptional PSU which goes upto 570W! Although I still stand by my point that a 650W PSU is what the OP should get as he won't need to upgrade. It's totally worth the 800 bucks or so extra.

[Tech_Wiz]

Will check about 650W PSU.

Just for Curious Guys this is my Planned Rig:

Intel DG31PR Mobo : Existing

2 Cabinet Fans: Existing (120 mm)

2 GB DRR2 RAM: Exsting. Will add 2 Gb more

Palit GTS250 : Current is 8600 GT

VX450W PSU Planned: Current is EL cheapo 400W

2 HDDs
1 DVD RW

I agree that 450W is kinda on the edgs but in the reviews VX450W was able to provide 570W as pointed above.

Well I believe that For a system without crossfire or sli 570W was kinda more than enough. I will try checking reviews of the 2 PSUs mentioned by Techno.