In a dillema.....new rig...please help

[comp@ddict]

- Athlon II X4 620 2.8GHz @ 5.6k

- ECS Black Series A785GM-M @ 6.2k
(Newegg.com - ECS Black Series A785GM-M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards)
I'm ordering via KMD. ECS company has service centres in INDIA TOO????

- Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB DDR3 1333 CAS6 @ 4.7k
(Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory with LEDs Model BL2KIT25664TA1336 - Desktop Memory)
THis memory is too good, and with a good price tag. But again, Crucial company, havn't heard much about it in India.....please help...

- BenQ G2220 @ 8.6k

- Glacial Power 650W @ 4.7k(excellent reviews, near 90% efficiency)

- WHICH CABINET? -Thermaltake Strike MX @ 4k or
- Antec Three Hundred @ 4k or
- Coolermaster Gladiator 600 @ 3.8k

- Seagate 500GB 7200.12 SATA HDD @ 2.9k

- Logitech MX518 or Razer Salmosa @ 1.7k (WHICH ONE?)

- 22x DVD Writer @ 1.2k(WHICH BRAND!!!????)

This is it for now.. My max budget for all these is 40k

[Krow]

The Athlon II X4 620 is 2.6GHz AFAIK.
Not sure about the memory, but ECS boards are pretty cool.

HDD: I wouldn't recommend Seagate, whether 7200.12 or not as I had a prob with this very HDD too.

Monitor: Dell 2209W or Samsung 2233SW are better than BenQ.
DVDRW= Samsung/LG. I prefer LG
Mouse: Never used gaming mice.
Cabinet: Antec 300 is excellent.
PSU: Great choice.

[MetalheadGautham]

Get a crossfireX enabled 785G board if you are getting one from newegg.

SPECIFICALLY this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157167

its simply BEAUTIFUL

8x8x 2-way crossfire is common, but this has optional 4x4x4x 3-way crossfire if ever you decide to never sell old graphics cards and keep them over next upgrade. And its a NOVELITY.

[desiibond]

@compaddict, I don't think ECS has good support options here. YOu better pick Gigabyte or MSI or ASUS for mobo.

Same with other products too. Better stick to those that have support centers in India.

[Krow]

compy get 785G boards as they are pretty cool. ECS doesnt have wide market reach in India so better get Gigabyte/Asus/Biostar

[comp@ddict]

hmm....okay..

but another option is this...

Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB DDR2 800MHz CAS4

Is this option good too? It's cheaper, and at FULL HD, I dunt think the gaming performance will be hit by what 1-2 fps?

[desiibond]

^^hmm. that should be okay? how much for the RAM BTW?

[letmein]

Don't you need a graphics card?

[Krow]

I think 1650 each for the RAM. Thats the deal I got at least. But compy, why dont u go for DDR3? Future proof IMO...
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Originally Posted by letmein

Don't you need a graphics card?

The mobo he will buy will come with excellent onboard GFX and hence no GFX card reqd. AMD FTW!

[sagargv]

How is BioStar's reputation ? do they offer good support and honor warranty ?
I dont see the reviews of mobo's made by biostar in toms , anandtech ..And Biostar offers 790 based mobos for less than 5k !! do they sacrifice on build quality ?

So , basically i was wondering if biostar is any good compared to gigabyte or asus.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

hmm....okay..

but another option is this...

Biostar TA785GE 128M @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB DDR2 800MHz CAS4

Is this option good too? It's cheaper, and at FULL HD, I dunt think the gaming performance will be hit by what 1-2 fps?

As I said before, why NOT consider crossfirex options ?

If you want something with Indian presence, there is Jetway.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813153141

Its not 785G but 790GX. And instead of SB710 its SB750.

Still its cheap at 90$.


EDIT: it has bad reviews. so ignore that. lemme search for another option.

Yeah, you have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131397 but it lacks onboard graphics.

[maldyzooks]

doesnt ordering on newegg via KMD still attract customs duty?
Even if its bypassed,do gigabyte/asus honor warranty cross country or do u have to ship it back to us for repair/replace?

On the rig topic, how abt a 790GX/X motherboard over 785 for more future options. I dont see any 785g ATX mobos here in India atleast.

PS: am also looking for a upgrade for about the same budget as above,except I already have a 22" lcd and palit 4670 super. which leaves me effectively 30k for other components. But I'd really like a ATX mobo. So suggestions for addict will also help me out here.

[hellknight]

If you don't need crossfire.. then i'd recc.. Jetway HA-07 Ultra.. awesome.. f**king awesome motherboard.. it is very beautiful..

Those Biostar motherboards are also good.. and are also ATX type... I've Biostar TA790GX BE.. and it is nice.. i was able to overclock my processor from 2.8 to 3.7 GHz using this board on air-cooling and standard heatsink..

LG's writer is fine I guess.. you can also get a better n expensive Sony product..

[topgear]

@ comp@ddict - That ECS mobo you've choosen is very good. Actually I believe it's the best micro atx mobo for AM3 procs. It packs quite a punch in it's small body. VGA, DVI, HDMI connector, plenty of USB ports, 8.1 Channel audio, Firewire, e-sata. That's enough for micro ATx mobo. It has got a LED poster soldered on the mobo and also has CMOS reset setting, power on and restart button on the mobo itself

Crucial is one of the best Ram manufacturer company. If you can get hold of them go for them but I don't think crucila has any sort of service centers in here.
If you don't want to go with crucial go with OCZ, G-Skill or corsair.

For cabby - get CM690 - it's the best one you can get between 4-5K

For HDD - I personally prefer seagate

For Gaming Mouse - don't have enough idea though in here the I prefer Logitech

For DVD RW Drive get Samsung

[comp@ddict]

Hmm okay...

but the problem is all other ram is DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 (WTF) and priced higher than Crucial....I need to make sure this RAM wud work for the next 4 yearsa without dying out on me...


and hmm...ECS does seem a good option..and I've heard of some ECS products in India....

DUDES AGAIN...NO CROSSFIREX

and listen no gfx card?? LOL, what do u thin the 650W is for??? HD5850 FTW!!!

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

DUDES AGAIN...NO CROSSFIREX

why not ? I mean, you buy 5850 in one month, and after 1.5 years when its price touches 6K it would become a great addition.

and listen no gfx card?? LOL, what do u thin the 650W is for??? HD5850 FTW!!!

expected nothing lesser from you

[Faun]

MX518 for 1.5k. Great looks, good ergonomics, extra thumb buttons, on fly sensitivity change.

[Krow]

No GFX cards now of course. HD5850 will be out quite some time later and I don't know if you would jump on it as soon as it is launched or wait for prices to fall with the launch of GT300 or due to high sales.

[The Sorcerer]

Glacialtech 650AA btw- the 650A is a POS. I am not sure how responsive is glacialtech RMA policy in India. I would recommend grabbing a gigabyte board but I am not too sure of ECS. coolermaster cm 690 is the default choice . Other than that- consider nzxt tempest. Grab mx 518- but in any case get a decent mouse mat as well or else those case feets are going to be done for and it will be wasted to spend 1.5kish on a mouse.

[topgear]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

Hmm okay...

but the problem is all other ram is DDR3 1333MHz CAS 9 (WTF) and priced higher than Crucial....I need to make sure this RAM wud work for the next 4 yearsa without dying out on me...


and hmm...ECS does seem a good option..and I've heard of some ECS products in India....

DUDES AGAIN...NO CROSSFIREX

and listen no gfx card?? LOL, what do u thin the 650W is for??? HD5850 FTW!!!

Yes they sucks in latency but you are getting local warranty and peace of mind instead. If you are brave enough then get Crucial. It's one of the best

That ECS mobo you choose is just perfect for your needs. Did I foget to mention that it has all solid capacitors

HD5850 is the way to go and yes it's really FTW!

BTW, do you want to wait for the green devil to release some DX11 solution

[hell_storm2006]

Well, if you are going for DDR3, 1600MHz is bare minimum you should go for, if you want 4 years time-line! 1333MHz is just barely out of DDR2 territory!

[MetalheadGautham]

I feel memory isn't that important.

You might as well save bucks going DDR2 and 790GX crossfire instead.
Just get 2x4 = 8GB of DDR2 800MHz RAM and your rig will have enough memory for years to come.

Concentrate on GPU if you intend to game, and on cooling solutions since you will be overclocking that Athlon II X4.
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I feel memory isn't that important.

You might as well save bucks going DDR2 and 790GX crossfire instead.
Just get 2x4 = 8GB of DDR2 800MHz RAM and your rig will have enough memory for years to come.

Concentrate on GPU if you intend to game, and on cooling solutions since you will be overclocking that Athlon II X4.

[Krow]

He doesn't like Crossfire it seems. But, yeah now is the time to buy DDR2 as later rates will go sky high. 8GB DDR2 should suffice for the next 1.5 year.

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

He doesn't like Crossfire it seems. But, yeah now is the time to buy DDR2 as later rates will go sky high. 8GB DDR2 should suffice for the next 1.5 year.

Prices WONT go sky high actually.
Remember DDR1 to DDR2 transition ?
Prices are similar now to what were when the transition occured.
But it was DDR2 whose price dropped alarmingly fast.

So expect DDR3 to go down, like Rs. 700 for 2GB, in another 2 years.

If someone wanted to take advantage of this situation, he should ideally buy a single entry level 2GB DDR3-1333 stick now and upgrade to 4 or 8GB when prices drop.

[comp@ddict]

FINAL RIG
Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.7k
Biostar TA785GE @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB @ 3.5k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.6k
Samsung 22x DVD Writer @ 1.2k
BenQ G2220HD 21.5" @ 8.7k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
Glacial Power 650W @ 4.6k

Now,
-QUERY NO. 1 - If I buy an HD5850 after it releases, will it be compatible with the motherboard I've chosen???
-QUERY NO. 2 - SUGGEST A CABINET FOR HD5850, which is about HD4870 in size, so that they fit without problems.

FOr GFX card and Cabby, I can't spend more than 20k.

[asingh]

Some questions and suggestions reading the above post...so not quoting any one..

1. How is the OP going to procure from Newegg..??
2. Whats so special about the ECS...cause its microATX with lots of features, or is there something else. Asus/MSI/Gigabyte too offer great stuff.
3. OP really is interested to get the best of the RAM. RAM does make a difference to the over all system. Ok..in gaming...it would translate to 2-3 FPS, but the over all system speed is fast. Obviously the DDR3 will channel data quicker vs DDR2.
4. I would not suggest 8GB RAM. I have read on plenty forums that it is difficult to get it stable while OCing. If he does go for 8GB then get only two DIMMs -- 2 x 4 GB each.
5. Go for 1 TB HDD. 500GB fills to quick...!
6. Yea wait for the 5XXX series. If you dont like them..or too expensive..the 4XXX series would have become cheaper. You can go for 4870 x 2 (internal XFire) -- no hassle of physically setting up 2 cards.

Over all I would suggest to the OP, you can procure good stuff in India too. Like Corsair PSU are excellent. Also give Lynx a shot..they are good.

[Krow]

Cabby - CM690 as everyone would suggest. Simply because it comes with 7 fans and is pretty roomy @ 4.5k. Else go for the Antec 300. I have seen both and like them a lot.

That leaves you with 15k for GFX card. Wait for the 5850 and buy later. Till than you can enjoy all games as you will have 640MB onboard DDR2 GFX due to shared VRAM!

[MetalheadGautham]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

FINAL RIG
Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.7k
Biostar TA785GE @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB @ 3.5k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.6k
Samsung 22x DVD Writer @ 1.2k
BenQ G2220HD 21.5" @ 8.7k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
Glacial Power 650W @ 4.6k

Now,
-QUERY NO. 1 - If I buy an HD5850 after it releases, will it be compatible with the motherboard I've chosen???
-QUERY NO. 2 - SUGGEST A CABINET FOR HD5850, which is about HD4870 in size, so that they fit without problems.

FOr GFX card and Cabby, I can't spend more than 20k.

1. Why did you choose Biostar TA785GE ? Go FULL ATX dude. It will give enough room for the GPU while ensuring that its heat does not affect other components. I mean, only some specs of the HD5800 cards are out and you never know how it will be till it finally hits the market and by then you would have already purchased the rig. So if I were you I would go the safest possible route.

2. How about changing HDD to 2x 320GB in Raid0 for better performance ?

3. Still no reply as to why no crossfirex.

[asingh]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

FINAL RIG
Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.7k
Biostar TA785GE @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB @ 3.5k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.6k
Samsung 22x DVD Writer @ 1.2k
BenQ G2220HD 21.5" @ 8.7k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
Glacial Power 650W @ 4.6k

Now,
-QUERY NO. 1 - If I buy an HD5850 after it releases, will it be compatible with the motherboard I've chosen???
-QUERY NO. 2 - SUGGEST A CABINET FOR HD5850, which is about HD4870 in size, so that they fit without problems.

For GFX card and Cabby, I can't spend more than 20k.

Here is your Motherboard:




Yes it should be. It is going to be a PCI.E 2.0 standard. Why you going for micro ATX go for a full blown ATX. The amount you are spending..it worth it. I guess the card will over flow onto the CMOS battery. Though that hardly needs to be changed....!!!!

Get the CM690. Around 4.5K. Anything will fit into that. It is a mid size chassis, with 7 fan expansions...!!!

The RAM you are getting is DDR2 right..??

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

FINAL RIG
Athlon II X4 620 @ 5.7k
Biostar TA785GE @ 4.3k
OCZ Titanium 4GB @ 3.5k
Logitech MX518 @ 1.6k
Samsung 22x DVD Writer @ 1.2k
BenQ G2220HD 21.5" @ 8.7k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 @ 2.7k
Glacial Power 650W @ 4.6k

Now,
-QUERY NO. 1 - If I buy an HD5850 after it releases, will it be compatible with the motherboard I've chosen???
-QUERY NO. 2 - SUGGEST A CABINET FOR HD5850, which is about HD4870 in size, so that they fit without problems.

FOr GFX card and Cabby, I can't spend more than 20k.

Why don't you go for ASUS EVO 785G mobo. it's price is at 6.5k now but I would say that it's lot worthy than Biostar one.

Also, instead of MX-518, why not go for normal keyboard and MS xbox 360 controller for windows.