Upgrading: Please help me to choose the correct components--

[GeekyBoy]

Look guys. I upgraded my pc about 3 yrs ago. U can find my config in my signature.

My pc has become a bit slow now, I cant play a single new game release.

I have a budget of Rs 10000

I was considering to upgrade the following:
Processor:AMD athlon x2 245 Rs 3500
Motherboard: Biostar 790GX RS 4500
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Rs 1200
Cabinet: Zebronics Bijli Rs 1500.

But as a second option, instead of upgrading the processor, board and ram, I thought of buying a Ati 4670 graphics card(Rs 4200) and the cabinet(zebronics bijli with stock smps), {Coz da cheaper da better}

So which will give me more gaming performance? Or is there anything else
I should upgrade? Please help me guys......I cant even play nfs undercdover!!

[Krow]

^Good choice of config!

Please check the price of 785G based mobo from Gigabyte. It should give you even better gfx I suppose. I would recommend that you increase your budget to about 15k and get a decent PSU with the package like Antec EA 650 or Seasonic 460W or Corsair VX450W.

[GeekyBoy]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

^Good choice of config!

Please check the price of 785G based mobo from Gigabyte. It should give you even better gfx I suppose. I would recommend that you increase your budget to about 15k and get a decent PSU with the package like Antec EA 650 or Seasonic 460W or Corsair VX450W.

Thnx

Which gives more grafix performance: My old athlon 3000 with ati 4670 discrete graphics card or the new AMd athlon II X2 245 with 790gx onboard grafix?

And as I am a student, dad wont let me up da budget much....max will be 12000.....but as i said....the lower the better...

And can stock psu of Zebronics bijli handle Ati 4670?

Thnx

[desiibond]

I tried to run HD4770 on my old Athlon 3000+ (venice core) but the processor proved to be a too much of a bottleneck. My suggestion would be wait till 785G is fully available and then upgrade to

Phenom II or Athlon II X2
758G
DDR3
9600GT

[Krow]

^It might just be able to handle it but it will get overloaded for sure after a period of time and will harm other components. For now, if you want to game only:

A). Open your cabinet and clean all the dust in it, preferably use a vaccuum cleaner or a simple dust blower with a dry cloth should do.
B). Get a decent GFX card like the 4670 512MB GDDR3 or 9600GT 512MB GDDR3, and game happily. I dunno if that PSU will handle it still
C). I would recommend you wait for some time before you upgrade ur CPU and mobo.

[GeekyBoy]

Originally Posted by desiibond

I tried to run HD4770 on my old Athlon 3000+ (venice core) but the processor proved to be a too much of a bottleneck. My suggestion would be wait till 785G is fully available and then upgrade to

Phenom II or Athlon II X2
758G
DDR3
9600GT

How much of a bottleneck will it be? Can I play GTA4?
And I dont have the money to buy an smps.....so 9600gt is out of the question...(i hope stock psus can run 4670)
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Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

^It might just be able to handle it but it will get overloaded for sure after a period of time and will harm other components. For now, if you want to game only:

A). Open your cabinet and clean all the dust in it, preferably use a vaccuum cleaner or a simple dust blower with a dry cloth should do.
B). Get a decent GFX card like the 4670 512MB GDDR3 or 9600GT 512MB GDDR3, and game happily. I dunno if that PSU will handle it still
C). I would recommend you wait for some time before you upgrade ur CPU and mobo.

Ok....thanks......but what harm will it do??

[desiibond]

if I am right, HD4670 and 9600GT take same amount of power. look for one that comes with GDDR3 as it will take little less power than one that is using GDDR2.

[max_demon]

9600GT can run with and without extra +6 pin pcie power
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Originally Posted by GeekyBoy

How much of a bottleneck will it be? Can I play GTA4?

GTA 4 is more dependent on processor than GFx card , in my PC(AMD 3500+,512MB RAM , 8400GS) it was sure unplayable (RAM is bottelneck here)

[GeekyBoy]

Originally Posted by max_demon

9600GT can run with and without extra +6 pin pcie power
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But most of the review sites say otherwise....anyway, I was hearing about new launches in the graphics card arena.....so should a wait a little before i buy the 4670 or 9600gt?

[desiibond]

new ones are gonna cost around 10k. you can wait another week to see if there is anything else in the bag.

[max_demon]

Originally Posted by GeekyBoy

But most of the review sites say otherwise....anyway, I was hearing about new launches in the graphics card arena.....so should a wait a little before i buy the 4670 or 9600gt?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...9600gt_us.html

See in the specification , there are 2 columns , one for 96W and other of 59W , scroll down in the bottom and see they have diff requirments , they are of same card but will work faster if additional power is supplied .

so someday if you decide that you need extra power just add psu and you will get wooping 50MHz increasement

[phuchungbhutia]

Does your mobo support the graphics card you mentioned . . I doubt it . .

[GeekyBoy]

Originally Posted by phuchungbhutia

Does your mobo support the graphics card you mentioned . . I doubt it . .

It has a pcie x16 1.0 slot.....I've heard Pcie 2.0 cards are backward compatible with PCIE 1.0....so I guess it will run......what do you guys say??

[desiibond]

^^yes. that should be fine.

[GeekyBoy]

Originally Posted by max_demon

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...9600gt_us.html

See in the specification , there are 2 columns , one for 96W and other of 59W , scroll down in the bottom and see they have diff requirments , they are of same card but will work faster if additional power is supplied .

so someday if you decide that you need extra power just add psu and you will get wooping 50MHz increasement

I think thats the green edition of 9600Gt......but how is the availability? I dont hear anyone talking about the green edition and stuff?

[max_demon]

^^damn if u are saying is true then my 9600gt is lost .

i had purchased 9600gt few days ago only , i will try and post results what happned