help me choose my new rig

[pikachu]

hi
please suggest the best config at a budget of 30,000
processor should be Phenom X4 with good graphic card


thanks in advance

[-anmol-]

What all do you need within that Rs 30.000? Do not post vague questions.

[Krow]

Phenom II X2 545 @ 5k OR Athlon II X2 240 @ 3.4k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H @ 4.5k
2x2GB Kingston RAM @ 2.5k
GTS 250 512MB @ 7.3k OR HD4850 @ 6.5k OR 9600GT @ 5k [As budget permits]
Corsair VX450W @ 4k
Seagate 7200.12/Samsung Spinpoint F2 Ecogreen 500GB @ 2.7k
CM Elite 334 @ 2k
19" LCD Monitor @ 6.5-7k.
Altec Lansing BXR1121 @ 1.1k
Kbd + Mouse = Rs.600


What do you need the PC for? Please let us know. Also, if you already have a monitor, then u cn spend the remaining money on decent GFX too.

[desiibond]

@pikachu, X4 and good graphics in 30k? that's difficult.

do you want monitor UPS and speakers too or is it just the CPU?

[pikachu]

i know my budget is very less but suppose that u are going to buy it for yourself, what will u buy in that limit?

no need UPS (already got APC 500VA) and PSU (already have a POV 400W Black Diamond Power Supply)

no need speakers too
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and harddisk too

[Krow]

Phenom II X2 545 @ 5k OR Athlon II X2 240 @ 3.4k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H @ 4.5k
2x2GB Kingston RAM @ 2.5k
GTS 250 512MB @ 7.3k
CM Elite 334 @ 2k
Dell 19" LCD Monitor @ 6.5-7k.
Kbd + Mouse = Rs.600
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ADD: I dont know if ur PSU will b able to handle the GTS 250 or not. Best ask sm1 else over here if they trust the POV 400W.

[hell_storm2006]

I would say add 500 more and get 955BE. I would say change your PSU to Corsair VX450W over POV.

[pikachu]

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

I would say add 500 more and get 955BE. I would say change your PSU to Corsair VX450W over POV.

how bout Zebronics ZEB 500W Platinum

link here

[Krow]

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

I would say add 500 more and get 955BE. I would say change your PSU to Corsair VX450W over POV.

955BE??? You mean the Phenom II X2 550BE, right?

Originally Posted by pikachu

how bout Zebronics ZEB 500W Platinum
link here

Nonsense. I am saying one last time : Do NOT compromise on ur PSU as it is the powerhouse of ur pc. Bad PSU's can damage all of ur brand new hardware! Don't ever forget this!

[Cool G5]

Yup don't take chances with the PSU. You don't want to fry up other high end components by getting a cheap PSU. Get a Corsair VX450 as suggested by Techalomaniac.

[desiibond]

That is true. a bad PSU can cause biiiig headaches. It didn't matter much 4 or 5 years ago because the h/w was not demanding at that time and nobody cared about expansion cards like GPU or soundcard. The situation is different now and many are going for certified PSUs.

putting a cheap PSU is like putting metal electric switches in luxury villa

[hell_storm2006]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

955BE??? You mean the Phenom II X2 550BE, right?


Nonsense. I am saying one last time : Do NOT compromise on ur PSU as it is the powerhouse of ur pc. Bad PSU's can damage all of ur brand new hardware! Don't ever forget this!

Oopsie! Meant 550BE!!! :-P :-P

Yes agreed on PSU part! Don't compromise on that! The funny notion is that why spend so much on a PSU because their performance doesn't actually reflect in terms of speed and any increase in computational power of the PC! So people tend to buy cheaper alternatives! So a good way would be to set a budget of the PC and to set a separate budget for the PSU. More the budget of the PC, more the budget of the PSU. Including the PSU within the PC's budget would always make the budget of the PSU shrink!

[asingh]

Originally Posted by hell_storm2006

Oopsie! Meant 550BE!!! :-P :-P

Yes agreed on PSU part! Don't compromise on that! The funny notion is that why spend so much on a PSU because their performance doesn't actually reflect in terms of speed and any increase in computational power of the PC! So people tend to buy cheaper alternatives! So a good way would be to set a budget of the PC and to set a separate budget for the PSU. More the budget of the PC, more the budget of the PSU. Including the PSU within the PC's budget would always make the budget of the PSU shrink!

Yups...+1 to this..and the rest of the posters..recommending a good PSU.

A PSU is what the system is based on. All the TRUST is placed on this component. A bad PSU can render the whole system useless. If I had a choice between a GPU and PSU...I would go for the better PSU and compromise on a low end GPU....! Or infact any component. No compromise on PSU.

[Krow]

+1 to all whose who realise the importance of Lord PSU.

[pikachu]

thanks guys
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finally i made a choice

ASUS M3A78-EM Rs.4992
Phenom X4 9650-Rs.6606
GTS 250 512MB- Rs.7300
DELL E1909W 19" - Rs.6700
CORSAIR VX450W-Rs.4000
TRANSCEND 2X1GB RAM-Rs.1600

please suggest a better option if any

PLUS, might bargain around Rs500

[Krow]

^Dude! You gotta be kidding me!

Replace Phenom X4 with the Phenom II X2 550BE. You can unlock two cores to make it a quad core. That would be so much better than buying a Phenom X4 as it is not a good CPU at all. Replace RAM with 1x2GB or 2x2GB. Buy only 2GB sticks. Get this mobo Gigabyte GA-M78GM-US2H @ 4.5k

Otherwise very good config,

[hell_storm2006]

Biostar TA790GXB - 4.2K.
AMD 550BE - 5.5K
GTS 250 512MB- Rs.7300 (you can GTX 260 a thought, way better option!)
Samsung 2033 - 7.2K (19 inchers are gone!)
CORSAIR VX450W-Rs.4000. No change here!
GSkill 2x2GB - 3K-3.5K.

[Krow]

^Biostar boards have heating issues AFAIK. Gigabyte boards are very good and a major plus for them is good after sales service. But the plus point for this board is the 790GX chipset i suppose.

[pikachu]

this is my choice

Biostar TA790GXB - 4200
AMD 550BE - 5500
GTS 250 512MB- 7300
DELL E1909W 19" - 6700
CORSAIR VX450W-4000
TRANSCEND 2X1GB RAM-Rs.1600

guys, any other idea?

plus, am planning to buy a NZXT cabinet but cant decide which one
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PLUS - will i be able to run Windows 7 on this config?

[pikachu]

what about CoolerMaster RS460-PCARA3 Extreme Power 460W instead of CORSAIR VX450W? because there's a huge price difference, it cost only Rs.2425 and Corsair is Rs.4000

[desiibond]

extremepower stands in the middle of zebronics and corsair.

[Krow]

Originally Posted by pikachu

this is my choice

Biostar TA790GXB - 4200
AMD 550BE - 5500
GTS 250 512MB- 7300
DELL E1909W 19" - 6700
CORSAIR VX450W-4000
TRANSCEND 2X1GB RAM-Rs.1600

guys, any other idea?

2x2GB Kingston @ 2.4k

Originally Posted by pikachu

PLUS - will i be able to run Windows 7 on this config?

Windows 7 will fly at supersonic speed on this config.

Originally Posted by pikachu

what about CoolerMaster RS460-PCARA3 Extreme Power 460W instead of CORSAIR VX450W? because there's a huge price difference, it cost only Rs.2425 and Corsair is Rs.4000

Because the CM eXp series is HUGE pile of trash. Its like getting a Maruti 800 to transport 5tonnes of bananas instead of a truck. Get the CM Real Power 460W series or VX450W.

[bippukt]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

Because the CM eXp series is HUGE pile of trash. Its like getting a Maruti 800 to transport 5tonnes of bananas instead of a truck. Get the CM Real Power 460W series or VX450W.

Not to hijack the thread but does this mean that my CM Extreme Power 600W won't actually be able to handle a system requiring 600W?

[desiibond]

^^it won't. It has efficiency rating of some 73% I think which means you get around 430W at the max.

[bippukt]

Originally Posted by desiibond

^^it won't. It has efficiency rating of some 73% I think which means you get around 430W at the max.

I was under the impression that it was more like x*.73 = 600 => x = 858W, ie it would consume approx 858W of power when providing 600W power. I need to get my information from more reliable sources.

Hmm...anyway, let this thread continue as per OP's requirements. I will make my own thread as I also need to ask about a case.

[pikachu]

since i cant afford the CORSAIR VX450W, suggest me a PSU at a budget of Rs.3000 for this config

thanks again

[pikachu]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

^Dude! You gotta be kidding me!

Replace Phenom X4 with the Phenom II X2 550BE. You can unlock two cores to make it a quad core. That would be so much better than buying a Phenom X4 as it is not a good CPU at all. Replace RAM with 1x2GB or 2x2GB. Buy only 2GB sticks. Get this mobo Gigabyte GA-M78GM-US2H @ 4.5k

Otherwise very good config,

what do u mean by this - You can unlock two cores to make it a quad core

[Krow]

I mean that it is a quad core processor which had some defects and hence to cores do not meet meet AMD's quality standards and hence its 2 cores are disabled by default. So original 4 cores - 2 cores = 2cores and hence its name is Phenom II X2 not X4.

Give me your final budget and I'll give you a config. Your rig fits within your initially stated budget of Rs.30000, so I don't see why you shouldnt be able to afford the VX450W! Compromise on your processor and get the excellent AMD Athlon II X2 250 @ 3.4k and save 2k there and get the VX450W anyways.

[desiibond]

strictly inside 3k, I think you may need to pick among CM xtremepower 600W and Zebronics PRO-500W.

using some boards, people are able to unlock two cores of X2 550BE (which actually is phenom X4's with two cores disable either coz of 1 or 2 defective cores or for some other reason)

this may not work for all processors and i would stick to X4 processor if the need is quad core computing.

[pikachu]

Originally Posted by Techalomaniac

Give me your final budget and I'll give you a config

budget is 30000, but for 2000 im going to buy a used 1TB HDD 1mnth old from my uncle, so that means a total budget is Rs.28000
i want that GTS 250 512MB graphic card and AMD 550BE proccy