CPU with a budget of 38-40k

[Vensanga]

Hey guys am planning to get only a Cpu for my friend with the budget i've mentioned..
Can i get DDR3 mobo and DDR3 RAm and also decided Intel than AMD....
It should have great Smps and Nice Cabby...
Am planning for WD 500gb...
Graphics should also be great in performance with less noise..

Can u pliz give me the right confi...

Thanking you guys in advance.....

[desiibond]

AMD Phenom II X2 550: 5.5k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H: 4.2k
2x2Gb DDR2 800MHz Corsair XMS2 RAM: 3k
Seagate sata 2 7200.12 500Gb HDD: 2.5k
Logitech k/b and mouse :800 bucks
Corsair VX450W: 4.2k
Cooler Maser Elite 335: 2.5k
Samsung 2233SW: 9.5k
Palit GTS250 512MB: 7k or 9600GT for 5k
APC 1100VA UPS: 4.5k
samsung dvd writer: 1.1k

If you can extend budget a bit, get Altec Lansing VS4121 speakers for 2.5k

[Vensanga]

Thanks alot...But am more of an Intel...and we already have a mouse,keyboard,ups,speaker and monitor...only the CPU we require..
And am wondering with my suggested budget can i have DDR3 motherboard and RAM???

[hell_storm2006]

At this point of time i think, none of the Intel processors would give you the performance ad value for money that an AMD proccy would give!

DDR3 is not worth the money at the moment. Little performance increase from DDR2 with a heavy price tag!

[emmarbee]

Intel Q8400 + Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L - 14840 (8750+6090)
Transcend/Kingston 3 GB DDR2 800 RAM - 2200
Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB - 6050 (Cool and Quiet)
PALIT GTS250 1GB - 8725
OR
Powercolor HD4870 1 GB DDR5 Clock 770MHZ 10,763
OR
Powercolor HD4870 512MB GDDR5 770 Mhz Clock Speed 9000

ZEBRONICS Black Jack CABINET - 3000

Cooler Master SMPS (based on ur video card purchase)

[emmarbee]

Intel Core i7 920 + MSI X58 Pro-E - 26200 (14900+11300)
Kingston / Corsair DDR-3 1333MHZ 2 GB RAM - 2400/2700 (2gb is enough as of now. I've never seen my PC using more than 2gb of ddr2 RAM, if necessary buy 1600 MHZ, which will be slightly costlier)
Western Digital 500 GB - 2675
Palit GTS 250/ Powercolor 4870 - 8725/9000
Zebronics BlackJack - 3000 (If not available, any other zebronics PRO series cabinet)

Zebronics Platinum Series PSU (based on ur card purchase) - Buy this PSU if its cheaper than Cooler Master or Corsair. (I'm having a Platinum 400W - and I've got not problem -BEST VFM, even if u get problems, zebronics has nice replacement policy)

The total sums up to approximately 50K. If you are going to buy this RIG you might wait for sometime to see whether the prices are going down or some other new technology comes from Intel bashing these models

Motherboard reviews - THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK MOTHERBOARD!

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...oard,2368.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/168-msi-x58-pro-e/

[desiibond]

@vensanga, for Intel you better wait just few more weeks or maybe days. core i5 are i3 are two be released.

Right now, for your budget AMD gives better bang for buck. If you are not gpoing to game much but watch lot of videos, the config need to be changed a lot to make it a HomeTheatre PC). let us know how your friend is going to use it.

[desiibond]

eg: a HTPC config with decent graphic card inside 40k (CPU only)

AMD Phenom II X2 550:5.5k or Phenom II X4 920: 9.5k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H:4.2k-4.5k
Corsair xms2 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz: 3k
Palit GTS250 512MB : 7k
ASUS Xonar D2X with DTH and Dolby decoding: 9k or Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer: 5.5k
Seagate 7200.12 sata 2 500Gb : 2.5k
samsung dvd burner: 1.1k
Logitech X-540: 5.5k
Corsair VX450W: 4.2k
CoolerMaster Elite 335: 2.5k

if you go with Phenom II X4, go for xtremegamer soundcard
if you go with Phenom II X2, go for asus xonar d2x soundcard.

at that budget, AMD gives best bang for buck, unless you do lot of video processing (editing and movie creation).

[emmarbee]

FYI, Q8400 supports virtualization. Just now checked out the update in AnandTech.
In other thread, hell knight had mentioned it wont support virtualization.

INFO ON i3, i5, i7

Desktop Processor Cores Threads Turbo
Intel Core i7 4 8 Yes
Intel Core i5 2 or 4 4 Yes
Intel Core i3 2 or 4 4 No




Only the Core i7 is allowed to run in a LGA-1366 socket, however there will be LGA-1156 i7, i5 and i3CPUs . The number of memory channels and the presence of a QPI link does not determine branding. In other words, Lynnfield will be both a Core i7 and a Core i5 depending on the SKU.

The LGA-1156 Core i7s will be the 8xx series, while the LGA-1366 i7s will be the 9xx series. The i5s will be the 6xx series and the i3s will be the 5xx series.

Four cores and HT enabled with turbo mode yields you a Core i7 on the desktop. If you only have support for up to 4 threads then you've got a Core i5; take away turbo and you have a Core i3.

[hell_storm2006]

Sorry to disappoint on the release dates. They have been pushed back to Q4 2009, due to recession and all. That's Jan 2010.

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3410

[desiibond]

aaaah. that's bad news. Means that phenom II is the way to go

[hell_storm2006]

Phenom II will hold good till the at least mid 2010. Jan 2010 means, Feb in India with a very high price tag. Then the markets will settle after 3-4 months, with some price drops. That's almost June 2010. It's a long time!

[Vensanga]

Originally Posted by desiibond

@vensanga, for Intel you better wait just few more weeks or maybe days. core i5 are i3 are two be released.

Right now, for your budget AMD gives better bang for buck. If you are not gpoing to game much but watch lot of videos, the config need to be changed a lot to make it a HomeTheatre PC). let us know how your friend is going to use it.

We are not hardcore gamers so we decided to go for Intel than AMD..But i was wondering can i get a DDR3 Mobo and RAM with my budget with a decent graphics...And were pretty satisfied with Core2duo procesor than Quad an i7 series..but if there is not much difference in price that's fine..
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Originally Posted by desiibond

eg: a HTPC config with decent graphic card inside 40k (CPU only)

AMD Phenom II X2 550:5.5k or Phenom II X4 920: 9.5k
Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H:4.2k-4.5k
Corsair xms2 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz: 3k
Palit GTS250 512MB : 7k
ASUS Xonar D2X with DTH and Dolby decoding: 9k or Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer: 5.5k
Seagate 7200.12 sata 2 500Gb : 2.5k
samsung dvd burner: 1.1k
Logitech X-540: 5.5k
Corsair VX450W: 4.2k
CoolerMaster Elite 335: 2.5k

if you go with Phenom II X4, go for xtremegamer soundcard
if you go with Phenom II X2, go for asus xonar d2x soundcard.

at that budget, AMD gives best bang for buck, unless you do lot of video processing (editing and movie creation).

Not realy hardcore gamers and not realy desktop processor and will not be used for any editing(i think)..just interested in a good Pc and well built...
May be like my System that's on my signature..hehehe

[emmarbee]

If you gonna get a DDR3- moBO its better u buy a X58 board. But then, there wont be any support for future cpu's like i5,i7 etc. For that you have to go for a P55 board...

So better stick on with DDR2 board and DDR2 ram!

If you gonna buy E7500, please don't. At that same price, AMD's X49650 is great bang for buck CPU. Go for INTEL, if u gonna buy E8400/E8500 or Q8400!

[hell_storm2006]

P55 motherboards are LGA1160. So current Core 2 Duo would hold good in that board. Also most P45 boards are mostly DDR2! So if you plan to go for DDR3 you have to go for X48 mobos! Which is a waste of total money just like DDR3 now. DDR3 is just a fancy term with a decent RAM costing upto around 6K-8K. An X48 mobo starts from 12K and good one's are 14K-15K. If you are looking for just a good PC then go for the one desibond told, just i think GTX 260 is a better choice than GTS 250!

[Psychosocial]

DDR3 is useless unless you go for Core i7 which will be overkill for your needs. Go with dessibond's config. AMD gives the best bang for buck in the market currently. Get the Palit GTS250 or the ATI HD4770. Both this cards are value graphics card which can play all the games at good resolutions and settings and don't have much problems.

[desiibond]

even for AMD I think DDR3 boards price starts at 9k right??

[Psychosocial]

^Around that.. yeah

[Vensanga]

Ok then eyes close on DDR3 mobo and RAM...But am not sure abt AMD though..i myself use my Pc for downloading movies etc..and used to keep my Pc turn on for likeovernight and the whole day...
One of my friend turn off his Pc like 24hours a week...
For this purpose am afraid that there will be problem with AMD as we all agreed and choose Intel..Am a little bit confused..maybe we should not me in a hurry and wait for sometime and the price may even fall...

[emmarbee]

If you can wait, then thats great. i3/i5 prices may be lowered.
Since u r saying, the system will be always downloading, I guess you are using ur PC as a multimedia PC. Then there is no necessity for Higher End CPU's - jus buy now a E7500(if u insist on intel) or X49650 and settle in for other multimedia components like fullHD monitor and spks etc.,

[desiibond]

^^donno how the rumour that AMD systems can't stay on for long is still present. Dude, there is no such thing. If you do improper installation, even an Intel processor having die made of gold and heatsink made of platinum will crash.

for your budget, AMD certainly is the way to go. If you still want to believe that AMD proccy's heat up a lot, fine, here is the Intel config for you:

Intel Core2Duo E7400: 6k or Core2Quad Q9450: 12.5k
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L
Corsair xms2 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz: 3k
Palit GTS250 512MB : 7k
ASUS Xonar D2X with DTH and Dolby decoding: 9k or Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer: 5.5k
Seagate 7200.12 sata 2 500Gb : 2.5k
samsung dvd burner: 1.1k
Logitech X-540: 5.5k
Corsair VX450W: 4.2k
CoolerMaster Elite 335: 2.5k

[Vensanga]

Neway i think we'll have to wait a little bit more to buy a good Pc..and guys i don't think i'll be needing a sound card and speaker as i already have one and can you the onboard sound card..
And what do you think abt my Pc that's on my signature..any change to be make the performance better..any upgrade to be made???

[desiibond]

replace E7300 with Q9450!!

[Vensanga]

When i buy my Pc ma friend told me to buy a Core2duo than a Quad core so am buying this E7300...What abt E8400..and whats the price of Q9450..which one should i go for if am going to upgraded my Processor???

[hell_storm2006]

Well E8400 comes around 8K and Q9450 i couldn't find it on any of the online websites. Has it been stopped??

Anyways Q9550 is around 11.5K. So Q9450 must be something around 10K.

E8400 is great processor, but lets face it Dual Cores will be phased out soon with the advent of i3/i5/i7!

[Vensanga]

Then what will be the price of these i3/i5/i7??? Will a Dual Cores be better than core2 and quad?? Am a little confused here...

[emmarbee]

Dual cores won't be better than present core2duo and quad.
i3 is supposed to replace the present core2duos. So it'll be same as the price of present core2duos. And the core2duo should drop to the price of dual cores(though there are some news that core2duo will be stopped). And i5 should probably replace quad. these are my views - dunno wht will happen.
If you wait, then surely it'll be useful - as u r stuck in the final stages(EOL) of these processors

[desiibond]

@Vensanga, Intel and AMD are pushing quad cores a lot. Right now, what processor you pick depends on what you wanna do.

AV editing, photoshop, multitaksing etc : quad core is the way to go. Most of apps used in this field are optimized fore quad cores.

gaming: still dual cores have advantage though processors like Phenom II X4 have caught up with dual core and in few months time, this is going to change. Dual cores will become slower when compared to quad cores.

now, if you want to pick a quad that will be strong, go for Intel Q9xxx series or core i7 series. Am not gonna recommend AMD anymore as you are feeling a bit reluctant.

Get the best Quadcore that you can buy.

Forget about core i3 and i5 as they won't be available till early next year. pick among these:

1) Q9400: 10k
2) Q9550: 12k

[Vensanga]

Then the prices of core2 and quad will all drop but it will take some time ryte??? Quad may seem to be more superior in multitasking but am more of a gamer than multitasking although i didn't play much..You see one of my friend got Quad when Intel launched the quad cores at high rate but he wanted his Pc for gaming and so he sell the quad and get core2..

[hell_storm2006]

Originally Posted by Vensanga

You see one of my friend got Quad when Intel launched the quad cores at high rate but he wanted his Pc for gaming and so he sell the quad and get core2..

That's not an upgrade. That's a downgrade.

By the time the dust settles, it may well be more than a year. i3's wont be in the market till Jan 2010 as per news reports! If you want to buy now, go for AMD and then get i3/i5/i7 after 1.5 years. The thing with Core 2 Duo's is that they are good processors but they have not been able to keep up with the Phenoms. If you look at the market, Intel posts first loss in a quarter after 20 years and AMD posts first profit after 9 quarters! Markets are turning!!!