need to buy a PC in a budget 40k max

[Baker]

Hi guys

i need to buy a new PC , this is my current configuration, please add ur opinions..


processor-->intel core 2 duo 3 ghz E8400 [some of my freinds ask me to go for AMD ]

HD -320 gb sata
RAM -2gb DDR2 800 mhz [is this enogh.?]

Display adaptor - ATI radeon 512 MB X 1550 PCI [ this is the part i need more clarification i will use this PC mainly for games , so i need the best graphics card in my PC]

monitor -->18.5 samsung TFT (tell me which brand is best ..?]

[desiibond]

Samsung 2033SW: 7k

Remaining amount: 33k

GPU: GTX260 SP 216 Sonic or HD4870 1GB Sonic: 11.5k-12k or Sapphire HD4770: 7.2k

Remaining amount: 21.5k

CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720: 7.5k
Motherboard: ASUS M4A78-Pro or Gigabyte MA78GM-US2H : 5k-5.2k
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800MHz 2x2GB : 1.5k x 2 = 3k

Remaining amount: 7k

Samsung DVD burner: 1.1k
Corsair VX450W: 4.2k
Cooler Master Elite 335: 2.5k
Logitech m/m keyboard and mouse: 700 bucks (with laser mouse should be 1.2k)
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 or Western Digital 500GB HDD: 3.1k

[damngoodman999]

^^^ Gr8 Rig follow it up

Display adaptor - ATI radeon 512 MB X 1550 PCI [ this is the part i need more clarification i will use this PC mainly for games , so i need the best graphics card in my PC]

Still many of them remembering this card even i thought it was extinct

[surinder]

Don't run after names AMD holds the best VFM title and for your budget system suggested by Desibond is the best one.

You can improve on prosy up to Phanom 2 x4 940 BE by investing just 3K more.

[sona]

Originally Posted by surinder

Don't run after names AMD holds the best VFM title and for your budget system suggested by Desibond is the best one.

You can improve on prosy up to Phanom 2 x4 940 BE by investing just 3K more.

Whats VFM???

Intel is still ahead of AMD when it comes to performance and cooling. ( they may cost a little more but it's worth it.)

[surinder]

Originally Posted by sona

Whats VFM???

Intel is still ahead of AMD when it comes to performance and cooling. ( they may cost a little more but it's worth it.)

OK then give me Intel's offerings against these AMD ones.

X2 7750 BE @3.5K

Athlon II X2 250 @ 5K

Phenom II x3 720 7.8K

Phenom II x4 940 BE 10.5K

[I_no]

Originally Posted by surinder

OK then give me Intel's offerings against these AMD ones.

X2 7750 BE @3.5K

Athlon II X2 250 @ 5K

Phenom II x3 720 7.8K

Phenom II x4 940 BE 10.5K

X2 7750 BE @3.5K vs. Pentium E5200 @ 3.1k
beats X2 in every test except gaming. Also, most you get from X2 after o.c. is ~3.2 while e5200 can get anywhere near ~3.7.

But, yeah, no great answers for other processors as X3 720 beats the E7xxx series it is priced against, same for X4 940 and Q8xxx and there will come E6300 v2.0 priced and performing between X2 250 and X2 550.

[desiibond]

forget about 7750BE guys. Check X2 250. It manages to compete with E8xxx procesors in gaming

[I_no]

Originally Posted by desiibond

forget about 7750BE guys. Check X2 250. It manages to compete with E8xxx procesors in gaming

Can you show us some reviews where you see that ??

[desiibond]

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...aii_250/9.html
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r...X2_550_10.html
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=7
http://www.techspot.com/review/171-a...x2/page10.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/athlon...0-be-review/16

[I_no]

Originally Posted by desiibond

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...aii_250/9.html
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r...X2_550_10.html
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=7
http://www.techspot.com/review/171-a...x2/page10.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/athlon...0-be-review/16

Nice showing by X2 250.
Hope that Intel sees this and lowers E8xxx prices seeing at last, there is competition between dual cores.
Also shows that nobody in his right mind will buy a new Intel dual core at present prices unless upgrading.

[surinder]

And what about X2 550 should be priced equal to E6300 beats it with ease.

So "I_no" I think now you should understand why we consider AMD offerings as best VFM at that point of time.Of coarse Intel will come up with answers and that is what will favor end user "competition" .

[desiibond]

X2 550 beats E8xxx and entry level quad cores without any effort. Phenom is really really rocking here!!!

[comp@ddict]

Display adaptor - ATI radeon 512 MB X 1550 PCI [ this is the part i need more clarification i will use this PC mainly for games , so i need the best graphics card in my PC]

LOL, this is ur opinion for gaming? DO YOU KNOW that the IGP of this 780G mobo listed below is many many times stronger than a X1550 which is a renamed card of the prev gen.

Athlon II X2 250 3GHz @ 5.5k
Palit 780G @ 3.8k
2*2=4GB Kingston DDR2 800MHz RAM @ 2.4k
BenQ G220 21.5" FULL HD @ 9.8k(don't compromise here!)
CM Elite 334 w/o PSU @ 1.8k
CM 500W ExP @ 2.8k
Any HD4770 OR Palit GTS 250 @ 7.7k(whichever u get, but if u get both, get HD4770)

[sona]

Originally Posted by surinder

OK then give me Intel's offerings against these AMD ones.

X2 7750 BE @3.5K

Athlon II X2 250 @ 5K

Phenom II x3 720 7.8K

Phenom II x4 940 BE 10.5K

I already said that Intels processors are costlier but they are more efficient and a lot more cooler.....I don't need to spend that extra money on buying costly cooling devices.

[acewin]

well efficient in what sense, amd chipsets from 780G are also much efficient, amd mobos and proccy are also priced lower compared to intel parts this can help u get tons of cooling option. IMO as the hardware gets going old it will show more sign of heating and alls so good cooling options will eventually be needed.

[acewin]

cooling devices are not costly.

[sona]

Originally Posted by acewin

well efficient in what sense, amd chipsets from 780G are also much efficient, amd mobos and proccy are also priced lower compared to intel parts this can help u get tons of cooling option. IMO as the hardware gets going old it will show more sign of heating and alls so good cooling options will eventually be needed.

Efficient means -Run the same program/database using both AMD and intel processors, and intel processor will give u results faster.I have tested it myself.....

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by sona

I already said that Intels processors are costlier but they are more efficient and a lot more cooler.....I don't need to spend that extra money on buying costly cooling devices.

helloooo. which year are you in. AMD's new dual cores have 65W TDP and you don't need extra cooling at all. Oh and btw, a 5.5k AMD processor pawning an 8.5k Intel processor, now that's called spending money the right way.

[acewin]

u really need to check the post links desi has made phenom II power consumtion is less than C2D E8400, I do not think nything more needs to be said.have a proper look

I see desi gave the shout even before me geeZ

[desiibond]

@sona,

http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollecti...familyID=26547

Look at this. All core2duo processors have 65W TDP and none of them can match a 6.5k Phenom II X2 550, be it speed or benchmarks or video/audio editing/gaming or overclocking.

[sona]

Originally Posted by acewin

u really need to check the post links desi has made phenom II power consumtion is less than C2D E8400, I do not think nything more needs to be said.have a proper look

I see desi gave the shout even before me geeZ

It's total bullshit..............
Not POSSIBLE at all..........
I have checked the benchmark scores(sisoft sandra,pc mark) and it confirmed that E8400 is ahead.....

[desiibond]

^^okay sir.

[drvarunmehta]

It is marginally ahead but also 3k more expensive. You decide if that's 3k well spent or not.

[damngoodman999]

Originally Posted by sona

It's total bullshit..............
Not POSSIBLE at all..........
I have checked the benchmark scores(sisoft sandra,pc mark) and it confirmed that E8400 is ahead.....

If u comparing Quad core with duo's , duo keeps less power

Quad core needs more power even if it is 45nm , Compare E8400 with Phenom 2 X2 550 power consumption

E8400 is out !!

[desiibond]

^^Actually, if you have a monitor with 1600x900 resolution or higher, X2 550 zooms past entire core2duo lineup and in lower resolution, the only processor that it can be compared to is E8600 as others fall behind.

And when you pay less than 1000 bucks more and get X3 720BE, it will be goodbye core2duo.

I don't know how core2duo can be faster and energy efficient here

[sona]

Originally Posted by desiibond

@sona,

http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollecti...familyID=26547

Look at this. All core2duo processors have 65W TDP and none of them can match a 6.5k Phenom II X2 550, be it speed or benchmarks or video/audio editing/gaming or overclocking.

U can check the benchmark charts at toms-hardware site.......
The top positions are occupied by intel only and E8400 is one of them........!!!!!!!!

[desiibond]

and look at half a dozen links that I gave earlier which are authentic tests.

fyi, tomshardware is for Intel and anandtech is for nvidia.

[sona]

Originally Posted by desiibond

and look at half a dozen links that I gave earlier which are authentic tests.

fyi, tomshardware is for Intel and anandtech is for nvidia.

the sites that u gave are comparing on the basis of gaming fps and i am not interested in that.
I agree that amd gives better performance in gaming but sucks when it comes to real world corporate jobs like handling large programs,compression, handling large databases,etc.

I think toms hardware is a better site to consult for overall performance.........

[drvarunmehta]

Since you are convinced that the E8400 is the greatest processor on earth then just buy it.